Steely Dan are fucking awesome, btw; virtuosity combined with accessibility combined with just some flat-out genius. Aja is easily one of my favorite albums of all time.
― HI DERE, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link
I also don't get "cold and clinical" from them at all; most of their arrangements, while very precise, are also very warm and rich, particularly with the way various instrumental and vocal parts interweave and overlap ("Babylon Sisters" is a fantastic example of this).
― HI DERE, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah good example, Dan. 'Babylon Sisters' is womb-like.
I just read the 33 1/3 book on 'Aja', which left me a bit disappointed.
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 15 November 2007 17:09 (sixteen years ago) link
aor at its most unimaginative...
-- Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:17 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
look, they were studio dudes. there is a *reason* they were studio dudes. they lacked the imagination and spark to do anything truly great. they are an energyless study in basic competence.
-- Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:32 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
what is the difference between a musician and brilliant musician? a musician is "competent". a brilliant musician has a command of songwriting and a creative spark that goes beyond competence. LISTEN to Steely Dan for God's sake, how can you argue this?
-- Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:43 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
uh, great tunes, witty lyrics?
-- mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:44 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
where?
-- Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:44 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
Steely Dan fans are inexplicable to me. This is a mediocre band at best.
-- Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:48 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
In context, Steely Dan represented everything that punk stood against: major lable dinosaur limo-rock made by people who were technicians above feeling musicians. Jimi Hendrix has more in common with the Sex Pistols or the Clash than any of those do to Steely Dan. The music is STERILE, 70s coke-fueled self-indulgence and I have yet to find a single meaningful lyric in it.
-- Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:30 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
i am genuinely baffled.
-- Orbit (Orbit), Friday, February 13, 2004 2:41 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
BUT YOU KNOW WHATS GREAT?! HEROIN!
― chaki, Thursday, 15 November 2007 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Dan OTM. And I really can't think of anybody who would offer better barstool conversation than Becker/Fagen.
― will, Thursday, 15 November 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link
This thread wasn't so much designed to trump the accomplishments of the Circle Jerks so much as it was an opportunity to take a dump on the `Dan Wow, what a shocker. And The Clash is better than both of them put together.
― Jazzbo, Thursday, 15 November 2007 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link
er, in reference to having a seat next to Keith Morris at a bar upthread. Which I'm sure would be sufficiently entertaining itself.
― will, Thursday, 15 November 2007 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link
its not.
― chaki, Thursday, 15 November 2007 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link
CLASH TEAM REPRESENT
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 November 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link
And The Clash is better than both of them put together.
No arguments there.
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 15 November 2007 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link
clash fans everywhere agree
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wear/content/images/2005/05/09/sunday_crowd2_400x300.jpg
― omar little, Thursday, 15 November 2007 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Tuomas?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 November 2007 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Too bad Orbit was on the fence about whether he liked Steely Dan or not. I hope he made up his mind.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 15 November 2007 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm sure he did.
― Noodle Vague, Thursday, 15 November 2007 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Gree he he he
http://forum.llc.ed.ac.uk/graphics/pink_flamingos.jpg
― omar little, Thursday, 15 November 2007 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link
genius
― HI DERE, Thursday, 15 November 2007 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Masturbatory coffee-table jazz-rock noodlery for people with patches on the elbows of their corduroy blazers hanging out in wine bars or "I JUST WANT SOME SKANK". Circle Jerks, obv.
http://homepage.mac.com/alexinnyc/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2007-09-28%2005.59.27%20-0700/Image-C30C58296DC111DC.jpg
― omar little, Friday, 16 November 2007 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link
yo is it true alex in nyc got sonned after a blazer beef?
― M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 November 2007 18:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Do you see a patch there? No. Is the blazer corduroy? No If you look to the right, you'll see my BEER. And it's a restaurant, not a wine bar....
So go blow yourself.
― Alex in NYC, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link
But nice try.
REAL PUNKS DONT EAT IN RESTAURANTS!!!!!!!
― max, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah dude yr supposed to eat, like, garbage and heroin
― M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link
lighten up, alex
― omar little, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Never claimed to be a punk, btw.
― Alex in NYC, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Liking Punk does not equate with being a Punk, I wouldn't say. And fret not, Omar, I'm perfectly...umm...lightened.
or should that be lit, which I plan to be later.
― Alex in NYC, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
he's not even wearing an undershirt, that's pretty punk if you ask me
― El Tomboto, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
: D
― omar little, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Undershirts are for grandmothers and construction workers.
― Alex in NYC, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link
don't forget the military
― El Tomboto, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link
and construction-working grandmothers.
― Alex in NYC, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Alex kinda looks like it fell off the rack at Target, there.
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link
heinken isn't very punk
― Mr. Que, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:39 (sixteen years ago) link
is that hitchens?
― and what, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Don't knock that blazer! And no, Heinken ain't very punk, and ain't very good, but it was the only beer being served as part of the open bar (high school reunion thing).
― Alex in NYC, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link
it does taste like shit though
― El Tomboto, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost ha
― El Tomboto, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Alex in NYC is like my id or something.
― libcrypt, Saturday, 17 November 2007 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link
<3 <3 u alex :)
― chaki, Saturday, 17 November 2007 04:23 (sixteen years ago) link
i like both
― roxymuzak, Saturday, 17 November 2007 05:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Heard some more Steely Dan today -- in a fuckin' diner, no less (the track playing was "Hey Nineteen"). One indignity the Circle Jerks will invariably never face is being reduced to background music at a diner, I guarantee ya that.
All things considered, "Hey Nineteen" isn't nearly as offensive as "Deacon Blue."
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 18 November 2007 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link
yes its true that they probably wouldn't play the circle jerks in diners.
― chaki, Sunday, 18 November 2007 00:40 (sixteen years ago) link
however i hear your girlfriend slicia keys everytime i walk in a 711.
"Deacon Blue" is a fucking incredible song.
― HI DERE, Sunday, 18 November 2007 06:06 (sixteen years ago) link
its called deacon blues. god.
― chaki, Sunday, 18 November 2007 14:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh let's not bring Him into this.
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 18 November 2007 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link
"Q. how did they get something to sound like this before Pro Tools"
lol
― m coleman, Sunday, 18 November 2007 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link