Could the new Liz Phair be any worse

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oh my God those lyrics are CLASSIC

I am extraordinary, if you'd ever get to know me

you wait around years for something this awful, thank you thank you Liz Phair

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 3 May 2003 21:09 (twenty years ago) link

I just downloaded "Extrodinary." Listening: I'm alternately confused, ashamed, disgusted, complacent, and hopeful. Hopeful that this song really is all over pop radio. I think the crux is that this is just simply harmless.... whereas Liz used to be harmful. Or at least seemed that way to me in 1993. No falling apart at the seams here.

Does anyone know of a better break up song than "Divorce Song"?
"And it's also true that I lost the map". Amen.

― scott m (mcd), Sunday, 4 May 2003 00:13 (twenty years ago) link

FWIW, Phair has been bragging that some legal loophole allowed her to regain the ownership of the Exile masters and the Girlysound tapes. This being the ten year anniverary of that release and all, she's alleging to do an expanded release late in the year.

-- don weiner

Sorry to say it, but it sounds like another last gasp from an artist in the throes of deep block or "deeply out of wad" syndrome.

― Roman (Roman), Sunday, 4 May 2003 00:33 (twenty years ago) link

Anyway Matos called this years ago:

am I the only one who notices that Pink sounds like Liz Phair on "Get the Party Started"?

and I quite like extraordinary -- certainly more hooky & meandering than Avril &c.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:47 (twenty years ago) link

hooky & meandering

Whoa -- that to my mind spells contradiction. I mean, I like the concept if it happens...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:52 (twenty years ago) link

Liz Phairhokey & meandering... never!

― V (1411), Monday, 5 May 2003 20:29 (twenty years ago) link

Sterling sometimes I think you toss superlatives into a blender and just type up whatever floats to the top when you hit "stop."

Then again I've been known to do this myself.

I was always told my girls in college that Exile meant a lot to them during their formative years blah blah. Is that true? I remember it being one of the few pieces of indie rock (broadly defined) that was played on the Adult Album Alternative station in Chicago, and I remember thinking it was pretty unexceptional.

― amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 5 May 2003 21:36 (twenty years ago) link

my girls = by girls

But I like the idea of having a squad of girls who had my back in college.

― amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 5 May 2003 21:37 (twenty years ago) link

"You don't even know who Liz Phair is"?!? What the fuck is she now, Ludacris? (pun totally intended)

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 5 May 2003 22:29 (twenty years ago) link

Your record collection don't exist
You don't even know who Liz Phair is

this is GREAT!!!

― thom west (thom w), Monday, 5 May 2003 22:37 (twenty years ago) link

coming in the context of everything else that's been said about the record, it just sounds sad

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 5 May 2003 22:40 (twenty years ago) link

I have the feeling her lyrics were just as fucked before, but have heightened absurdity because of the strength of the production.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 03:01 (twenty years ago) link

no, they weren't amazing before but they were never this bad..

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 03:02 (twenty years ago) link

"Rock Me" is fantastic '95 throwback 70's nostalgia alterna-synth-linklater loveliness

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 19:07 (twenty years ago) link

Also U&K for the hatas to go listen to "It's Sweet" RIGHT NOW.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 18:07 (twenty years ago) link

Whoa - I had a dream last night where Liz Phair released a double-CD of amazing music for her "real" fans, right on the heels of "Liz Phair" - which she admitted was just a shallow ploy for airplay.

― Sam J. (samjeff), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 18:16 (twenty years ago) link

According to some people on her mailing list, she does have about an LPs worth of material that's more "traditional Liz Phair" style that she says she may release via a web site.

― nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Um, I'm seriously loving this Liz Phair/Happy Tragic Thing/whatever it's being called now CD, having just gotten it and listened for the first time. I guess it's a drag that she doesn't sound like she used to, but to me the great thing about Liz has always been how proudly pathetic she's seemed. That song on whitechocolatespaceegg where she calls her mom and tells her that this new guy is different and isn't gonna hurt her feelings and stuff, "Divorce Song," "Fuck and Run" -- she always owned up to a whole world of really sad feelings that I wish more songwriters would sing about. So this new one just seems like the application of that pathetic-ness to her sound, which for me totally works. It's like, not only can't she get it together in a relationship, she can't even sell 100,000 records with some serious industry might behind her. What sad, curious drama.

― Mikael Wood, Wednesday, 28 May 2003 04:41 (twenty years ago) link

"the application of that pathetic-ness to her sound" is like the most backhanded compliment I've read all week.

gotta love indie logic.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 04:48 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that Liz hooked up with the Matrix for any reason other than her honest desire to get that "I'm With You" acoustic-guitar timbre. But I also don't really care why she did it, because I think the result — at least on a one-to-one, record-to-listener basis — supersedes whatever her intent was, when considered within the context of her own body of work. In the same way that, say, Milli Vanilli would have gotten way better if they'd released an album of Sinatra duets or something.

― Mikael Wood, Wednesday, 28 May 2003 05:12 (twenty years ago) link

indie logic is almost as good as grad school logic, but not quite. ;-)

― tractor & trailer, Wednesday, 28 May 2003 05:43 (twenty years ago) link

seven years pass...

"Bollywood" likely one of the worst songs I've ever heard by anyone.

http://lizphair.com/

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 4 July 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

AHHHHHHHHHHH EVERY1 HAS TO LISTEN TO THIS

― 156, Sunday, 4 July 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm finding the '7 years pass...' to be a piquant comment in and of itself.

― Matt M., Sunday, 4 July 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I am one of the only people on earth who liked the single on her last record, but this is an atrocity.

― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Sunday, 4 July 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

wau

― the last air bud (crüt), Sunday, 4 July 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

holy crap

― sofatruck, Sunday, 4 July 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Get a taste of Liz Phair

― buzza, Sunday, 4 July 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDpUJjVfpOU&feature=player_embedded#!

― buzza, Sunday, 4 July 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

This kinda reminds me of "Rico Suave" only not as good.

― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 4 July 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Only Liz Phair would go around and interview people about her own record.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 4 July 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

o_O

― Grisly Addams (WmC), Sunday, 4 July 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

you guys ... the album cover ...

http://magiska.vlsweb.net.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Funstyle_Cover_Image-400x400.jpg

― congratulations (n/a), Sunday, 4 July 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9EbOXYenJY&feature=related

― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 4 July 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

haha she sounds like princess superstar on that new song.

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 4 July 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Princess Superstar fronting 2NU.

― kkvgz, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Some of the other songs sound okay though.

― kkvgz, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Man, that Bollywood track sounds like MIA after a lobotomy and way too much ketamine. Only heard of this woman via ILX to be honest, don't think she made much of an impact in the UK. Pretty big Stateside huh?

― rhythm fixated member (chap), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it's supposed to sound that way (see album cover).

― kkvgz, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link

it's embarrassing
even worse, it's embarrassing and boring

― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link

wow, rico suave comparison otm

― obvious and old and bannable (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Don Newkirk cameo?

― has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I used to work with her dad

― has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

she has to be trolling right

― the boy boy young messi (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I just heard "Oh, Bangladesh" -- it sounds like an attempt to return to Whitechocolatespaceegg but with a Somebody's Miracle cast-off.

― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Just got around to listening to this...it defines fontrum.

― ô_o (Nicole), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually, after two listens, this is far from terrible.

― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't been able to convince myself to listen to the rest of the album yet, but I keep hearing charitable things being said. I'll do it, but I still anticipate the worst.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link

"congratulations Liz...you just recorded your first number one hit single!"

― 1967 Dragnet episode (Z S), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 02:40 (thirteen years ago) link

omgomg i don't even know what to say about BOLLYWOOD !

i literally just started cracking up in the middle while my boyfriend is asleep next to me

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― janice (surm), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 02:45 (thirteen years ago) link

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