"Starship Troopers" - Verhoeven is a mad genius!

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i HAVE read Heninlein's book and aside with my own problemms with him, I found Verhoeven's version to be a bad film.

actually amateurist, i would be interested in hearing why you think his films are well made, i find that (based on other films you like) to be a bit surprising.

― H (Heruy), Monday, 31 May 2004 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Now if Ender's Game could ever be filmed...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 00:02 (nineteen years ago) link

with jake lloyd!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link

who's jake lloyd?

― H (Heruy), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 00:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Five years was a long, long time ago.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...

HELP REQUESTED RE: STARSHIP TROOPERS:
So I checked out the DVD for Starship Troopers this weekend, and was enjoying the madcap satire and gore and so on, and got to the big climactic scene at the end, and the DVD started fucking up and skipped the last 10 minutes of the movie, jumping right to the ending credits. So I need to know how Starship Troopers ends. The last scene I saw was when Denise Richards and the other pilot dude get captured by the bugs and the pilot dude gets his brain sucked out by the brain bug. Then it skipped to the brain bug being pulled out of the cave by the troopers, apparently killed by some random trooper who hadn't been in the movie until then. So what happened in between?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link

You missed the Denise Richards stripping scene.

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

And when she sucks the brain out of the bug.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

(seriously, I don't remember)

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Then it skipped to the brain bug being pulled out of the cave by the troopers, apparently killed by some random trooper who hadn't been in the movie until then. So what happened in between?

If I remember correctly, the brain bug was killed by a random trooper who hadn't been in the movie until then.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Exactly the same thing happened with the Starship Troopers DVD I borrowed from Lukey. Weird.

― Wooden (Wooden), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Omigod CENSORHIP!!! They don't want you to see the strip scene!!

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Charlie Sheen is travelling across the globe with a penknife, keeping his wife's bosum safe from the prying eyes of men.

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

He should use the penknife elsewhere.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

bosum

I'm sorry, that's spelled bazoom.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

and it's actually plural.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not so certain; didn't you see "Tomorrow Never Dies"?

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

So no one knows how ST ends?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Neil Patrick Harris lezzed it up with a giant bug.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link

He was a ghost all along.

― Wooden (Wooden), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Rosebud was his spaceship

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Keyser Soze was an alien.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

The Brain Bug is not dead it's been captured alive.

It's been captured/found by Ricos former drill instructor from boot camp who we found out asked for a demotion to private so he could fight in the war.

Then they lez up.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link

The best part of this is that Neil Patrick Harris does in fact lez up with a giant bug and that particular scene has erased the rest of the movie's ending from my brain.

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link

"Would You Like To Know More?"

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 18 October 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

So how does Rico save Denise Richards?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 18 October 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Starship Troopers is good but it's really nothing more than ID4 for people who like their subtext in 40-point Arial Black

If Bruckheimer was the guy who made the T-shirts that say "PORN STAR" then Verhoeven would be the guy who came along and designed one that said "SUCKS DICK FOR BLOW" *applause*

But don't get me wrong I like Starship Troopers a lot

I just like Johnny Mnemonic a lot better

― TOMBOT, Monday, 18 October 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Even *I* have trouble dealing with that one - and Robert Longo is one of my favorite ever artists.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 18 October 2004 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

you gotta see the ending sequence if only to see doogie howser in full SS glory

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 18 October 2004 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Psychic SS Doogie directs Rico to find crashed Denise, who's pilot boyfriend has had his brain sucked out by the brain bug, they escape because the meathead marine stays behind with a nuke.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link

SS Doogie then does a mind meld with the brainbug. I am not making this up.

"IT'S AFRAID."

― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmm. It seems like I missed a lot of good stuff. The video store will pay for this.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link

The sergeant who got busted down so he could fight saves the day! I do like Starship Troopers, it's funny.

― Matt (Matt), Monday, 18 October 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Harold and Kumar should have worked in an SS Doogie gag.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...

my question is, what horrific brainbuggy thought does doogie sense at the end - the one he can't bring himself to share with the triumphant and expectant troops around him?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 November 2005 05:35 (eighteen years ago) link

he says "he's... afraid!"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 28 November 2005 05:39 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, i thought that was the whole thing. the troops rejoice that the bug is afraid. the delivery is great: "He's... afraid!" And then this big cheer from the crowd. It's like the ultimate fascist sentiment.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 28 November 2005 05:51 (eighteen years ago) link

haha okay, i was thinking more "he says we're all going to die", but then doogie thinks better of it and comes up with this fascist ad-lib.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 November 2005 05:56 (eighteen years ago) link

i also like the idea that the brain-bug isn't "learning" about them at all, he's just the nephew of some bug brigadier who harbors a dark and perverse taste for the fatty flesh of human BRANES.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 November 2005 06:02 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost The acting is not the best, but if you hadn't figured that out before then...

"Alien 90210" is correct, but it works! In a bland, fascist, pretty future, of course all the people would be plastic. The bad acting becomes an element of the satire.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 28 November 2005 06:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, this movie is really scary. The bugs gave me nighmares.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 28 November 2005 06:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I think TOMBOT's take is the best on the thread (Johnny Mnemonic aside.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 November 2005 06:15 (eighteen years ago) link

TOMBOT is full of shit.

"Starship Troopers is good but it's really nothing more than ID4 for people who like their subtext in 40-point Arial Black"

ID4 had no subtext, as far as I could tell. And sure, Starship Troopers is broad satire mixed with broad entertainment, but the comparison is still unfiar. ID4 was brainless entertainment mixed with... um... Will Smith. Starship Troopers is a movie that's smart about everything it's doing, even when it's being stupid. (Which is also a good description of Robocop, which... come on. Great and also great.)

And I'd pick Futura Black for my money. If you have to say it big and loud, at least go with a classic. "Arial Black." Haha. A Microsoft font. Yes, I'm mocking you.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 28 November 2005 06:40 (eighteen years ago) link

"Alien 90210" is correct, but it works! In a bland, fascist, pretty future, of course all the people would be plastic. The bad acting becomes an element of the satire.

-- Paunchy Stratego (fluxion2...), November 28th, 2005.

you are SUCH a DICK.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 28 November 2005 09:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Starship Troopers is a great film because it manages to be both incredibly dumb and quite clever simultaneously. Argubly Verhoeven was trying to both have his cake and eat it vis-a-vis the perfect right wing society = fascist nightmare stuff.

Possibly the reason that it didn't do well in the US was that too amny people got the joke he was having at their expense.

― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:02 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG FASCISM = BAD

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link

what kind of mad genius comes up with this kind of thing!?

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link

is anyone ever actually offended by any satire anymore? who are these mythical ppl who take offense to like, subtexts and stuff?

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:07 (eighteen years ago) link

amateurist is otm in this thread.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:36 (eighteen years ago) link

If Bruckheimer was the guy who made the T-shirts that say "PORN STAR" then Verhoeven would be the guy who came along and designed one that said "SUCKS DICK FOR BLOW"

...which is why Verhoeven is a genius and Bay is just a hack.

― latebloomer: Do I have a large frog in my hair? (latebloomer), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

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