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I am about to watch the American THE OFFICE - I'll report back in 40 minutes.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Note #1 - it uses ELO's "Mr Blue Sky" as its theme tune.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Let us know what you think, Bazzer.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmm. Well, I thought it would be a disaster. The impossible thing is trying to figure out what I'd have thought of it had I never seen the British one. I only actually laughed about twice, but then I don't think my first UK version was much different.

The biggest and probably fatal problem was the David Brent character. It's like he's saying all these thing right, but they seem so... dead. It doesn't help that he's very normal looking - not chubby and sweaty with a try-hard goatee like Ricky Gervais, and most importantly, without the constant nervous half smile that reeks of desperation. It's like watching a robot act the part.

The other characters aren't too bad. I liked the Dawn actress, and the Tim character manages both verisimilitude and sympathy. Again, though, they were both a little Stepford. This made the Gareth character seem too self-consciously weird - it's not right that he's the only abnormal one in the show. The British casting was wonderful because they looked *exactly* like the everymen we sit next to on the tube and at work; in this version you can tell they *tried* to achieve utter normality, but in doing so lost the jagged edges and mundane individualities of the protagonists.

It's hard to criticise the script as it's lifted very closely from (what I remember of) the British version. But this isn't the key - it's the tiny, tiny margin, the fine line between comedy and tragedy in the most mundane of situations, that they haven't quite captured.

So, any Americans who've never seen the British version want to give their thoughts?

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never seen the British version (yet), I don't think the U.S. version will air until the fall though.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh - I thought it was on very soon. My mistake. Ah well.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link

shaun of the dead was OK and, even, quite funny, for a while. the action and drama? were a bit much, in the second half. I still don't really like simon pegg and I still quite like nick frost (I learnt his name, again, tonight). it's still a bit cacky, w/ the same people and, you'd imagine, the same jokes. I sat next to ally and he was sitting next to madchen but I'd been promised no snogging, from lucy, at least, beforehand, and I got it. so, yeah, again, I quite liked a bit of it, a bit.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 22:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I have now watched the entire first series of Spaced. It's not as bad as I thought. I will watch series 2.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link

series 2 was less funny but stillf good. spaced is the only thing i've ever watched with the commentary on and it's obvious they are having fun (and maybe beer) recording it.

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think I'll ever be convinced.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 13:25 (nineteen years ago) link

The only commentary I've listened to is Tony Wilson on 24 Hour Party People.

If series 2 is *less* funny, does it compensate for this in any way?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link

For the first 20 minutes of Shaun of the Dead I really couldn't see what the fuss was about (perhaps I was concentrating too hard on working out where I'd seen that bloke before - it was DANGER INCOMING ATTACK and he cooked squirrel, take note Cabbage). The next 45 minutes were pretty good. The rest was OK. There isn't enough knee room in the GFT. I didn't do any snogging. The end.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

If series 2 is *less* funny, does it compensate for this in any way?

It compensates by having the single best episode of the whole thing and a very satisfyingly plotted final episode. And just by being so damn adorable in ways that may forever escape you & RJG.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Do you fancy the girls? My enjoyment graph started going up in tandem with my fancying the girls graph.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

by having the single best episode of the whole thing
The gunfight ep?

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

= the diagram of a night out episode.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link

From The Radio Times:

BBC2 10.00pm

I Am Not an Animal

Creature discomforts: in hostile territory, Philip the Horse enters into a power struggle with Mark the Bird.

(I am beginning to warm to this series)

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 May 2004 12:52 (nineteen years ago) link

a tv listing mentioned the owl's rapturous anticipation of the london recording industry scene "there'll be go-go dancers! and stew!". see that's what i like.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Monday, 17 May 2004 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I must have been sulking last week.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 May 2004 13:33 (nineteen years ago) link

The owl is very good.

ferg (Ferg), Monday, 17 May 2004 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link

This phrase bears repeating:

Scottish tracksuited monkey

Skottie, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 01:14 (nineteen years ago) link

The internet joke had me and Sarah in absolute stitches last night. Very strong. Claire is still my favourite.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 07:36 (nineteen years ago) link

i was a bit the worse for wear last night and watching it on video at half 12. i might watch it again as i don't think a lot of it went in...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 07:38 (nineteen years ago) link

But you remember the internet joke, right?

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 07:56 (nineteen years ago) link

(looking at the credits last night, wasn'ty it Baynham-directed as well? Animation direction is a scary thing - props to the man for his patience)

I'm not too keen on the bounty-hunter element that's been introduced. It could well limit the plot - I don't want every episode to be a rehash of last night's.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 08:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I taped IANAA due to the outrageous unfolding drama up at Sunderland; someone at London Live managed to cue in a Vanessa Feltz jingle, interrupting the commentary just as John Oster took the first spot kick. I like to think it put him off.

The VCR was groaning unpleasantly last night - possibly under the weight of my expectations - so I expect a flickery, distorted mess on playback. Like jaaaaam then.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 08:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Hang on, I meant sparrow, I think.

ferg (Ferg), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

One of the pubdrinkers had Baynham's face.

I thought it was very funny. Especially Phillip's 'trouble' at the end. And the monkey's photo obsession.

de, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link

See, I cheered after the humans part...because I didnt know there was a second part to the question.

Spinktor Hedberg, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, that was terrific. "The planet of men and women, ifyouwill."

As for Coogan only having one voice well, y'know, that's funny cos the guy got his break in the first place as an impressionist. See 1988 Royal Variety Show (or somesuch), his double act with John Thomson, Spitting Image, Spartacus Mills, The Pool, etc.

I could do without the rodent and the monkey. But, y'know, every show needs a Twist.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

You don't like Twist?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 09:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Have you been pulling my leg, Michael? The first two episodes of series 2 of Spaced were much better than series 1. And when you put the DVD in the machine it says, 'get off, you bummer'.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 21 May 2004 07:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I think you're just getting used to it, PJM; you didn't have the 12-month fog of anticipation as season #2 loomed. Also: tanned and slim Jessica Stevenson did not compute. Or alternatively, you're right.

I don't dislike Twist; I was going to say 'Mike from The Young Ones' but it wasn't as smart-arsed.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 21 May 2004 07:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Another good show this week, I thought. I may be easily pleased though - Coogan only needs to slip into his Deep Bath register for phrases like "rusty ambulance" and I'm choking on my Quorn fillets. "Meat drawer" struck home too and I love the sing-a-not-a-longs.

I popped over to Cook'd and Bomb'd to see if the comedy netgeeks were as chuffed as me with the new Baynham product and discovered that it was 'unfunny, badly-animated garbage' with the usual wistful moan about 'remember how good he was in 199x'. If the same script was on R4 they'd be in excelsis.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link

In fairness, when the grim reaper ask me what the funniest thing I've ever seen is, it's not going to be a satire on middle-class obliviousness. Though some of it is pretty good, and "It's the internet!" will live in my heart for a while.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I was giggling like an idiot at some of the stuff on Monday, far more so than the one before, especially when the monkey spends all their money on a broken laptop and the sparrow makes him dunk himself in the sink repeatedly, and he's all 'put your head in the water again please. RIGHT IN.' and the monkey's just like doing it even though he's eighteen times the size of him, and the horse is all 'STOP SUGGESTING HE DOES THAT' in the Coogan voice.

Fergal (Ferg), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked it when the horse fell down the stairs.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 27 May 2004 07:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Mark the Sparrow makes this, I think. The sequence from him pointing out all the farm equipment to the end of the sing-a-not-a-long of bringing in the sheaves had me in hysterics.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 27 May 2004 07:57 (nineteen years ago) link

4/6 Romance is in the air for Philip, and Claire becomes a mother - but is Winona doomed to be left on the shelf?

It clashes with BBC News with... Natasha Kaplinsky!!!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 31 May 2004 09:30 (nineteen years ago) link

hmmm, i'm not sure about this

stevem (blueski), Monday, 31 May 2004 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link

and yes the BBC lumping different comedy shows together within the same hour or two is sort of annoying if you like one but hate the other (i think i can take or leave I Am Not An Animal thus far but i refuse to watch TPOLAPOCP) - but then again maybe it's their way of luring enthusiasts of conventional sitcom towards the more surreal unorthodox stuff

stevem (blueski), Monday, 31 May 2004 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link

TPOLAPOCP = Mexican volcano

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 06:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think I'm ever going to be able to watch a whole episode *all the way through*, I get fed up. Also, it was very violent at the beginning and they seem to be upping the filth factor. I found it quite disturbing.

Surreal comedy doesn't seem to have much to do with surrealism, not that I'd know, so what I'm wondering is, what would be a better label for surreal comedy?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 09:04 (nineteen years ago) link

yes i couldn't think of a more apt label, it's not that surreal once you get past the initial premise.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 09:05 (nineteen years ago) link

what would be a better label for surreal comedy?

Disturbtainment? Oddcom? Unencumberedbyrealitygagfest.

I taped this cos I didn't fancy watching it with the in-laws. Mrs Berry seemed to enjoy (not necessarily a vintage) Porridge the other night though.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 09:10 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Revive!

I am about to watch the American THE OFFICE - I'll report back in 40 minutes.

-- Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:34 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
Note #1 - it uses ELO's "Mr Blue Sky" as its theme tune.

-- Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:36 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

Interesting that the Office (US) pilot episode had been around for almost a full year before it finally aired (March 24, 2005).

I never realized how much The Office theme song sounds like "Mr. Blue Sky" but, hell it sure does.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 12 October 2007 03:16 (sixteen years ago) link

i love i am not an animal. i'm sure there was another thread about where i said as much

electricsound, Friday, 12 October 2007 03:48 (sixteen years ago) link


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