hey uh remember those wmds? gwb was cool with outright deception too
― What's the range of an Iranian frogman dipshit? (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 6 November 2017 13:15 (six years ago) link
If we count making empty promises and manipulating the base as "fraud" there's very few elections anywhere that could avoid the label.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 6 November 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link
Trump didn't steal the election
He probably did in Wisconsin.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 November 2017 13:33 (six years ago) link
― een, Monday, 6 November 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link
― een, Monday, 6 November 2017 13:49 (six years ago) link
Trump is a pretty big fraud, just being himself, in the sense that whatever he thinks you'll be most impressed by, he tries to imitate. But most of his imitations reflect a very crude understanding of what that impressive sort of person would actually say, do, or think, e.g. to convince you he's a smart person he just brags about how smart he is. There is no core to him, other than a seething mass of id.
But the election of 2016 was mostly 'fraudulent' to the extent that our presidential electoral system allows a man with 3 million fewer votes to win the election. The worst part about the Russian interference isn't that it was some new thing. But they proved once again that spreading damaging lies and rumors on a massive scale is a winning strategy, and now it will get even worse, even without Russian assistance.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 6 November 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
related/reference: the most important election of your lifetime - identify it please (US postwar edition)
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 6 November 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link
oh i already posted, otm to myself upthread
― flappy bird, Monday, 6 November 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
trump has a worse moral compass in the abstract.
hard to say which man's moral compass is easier to just reach in and move with your fingers; putin would prob testify it's gwb
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 6 November 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link