http://www.musicradar.com/news/joe-bonamassa-using-pedals-that-make-you-sound-like-everything-but-your-guitar-is-fking-lazy
“I’ve really gotten over pedals. I can’t keep up with this craze of boutique pedals that make you sound like everything but your guitar. I can’t get my head around it. So you don’t want to play a guitar [properly] so you buy a box that makes it sound like an algorithm, like you just fired up your computer and you can spend the night staring at your fuckin’ shoes? C’mon man…“I know I’ll get shit for saying this, but it’s fucking lazy. It’s insulting to people who spent 35 years playing and learning, like a lot of players. And we continue to work at it! These guys can barely play a chord but call themselves soundscapists. Get the fuck outta here! It’s bullshit. There’s so much masking and spin going on there. Can we get real for a minute? What do you actually play? Pick up an acoustic guitar… try that!”
“I know I’ll get shit for saying this, but it’s fucking lazy. It’s insulting to people who spent 35 years playing and learning, like a lot of players. And we continue to work at it! These guys can barely play a chord but call themselves soundscapists. Get the fuck outta here! It’s bullshit. There’s so much masking and spin going on there. Can we get real for a minute? What do you actually play? Pick up an acoustic guitar… try that!”
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link
looking forward to a Shields/Bonamassa collab in 2027
― cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
Very skeptical of anyone who considers themselves a musician that doesn't —or, in this case, refuses— to see the potential in all types of music gear. Fine to say, "I don't really like to use effects pedals", but to just assume somebody who does is somehow lesser talented and/or knowledgeable just because of that is pretty flawed logic. I mean, I could say, "People who only rely on a guitar and an amp for their tone are destined to continue falling back on blues cliches to the point of becoming boring and predictable."
Also, the way he talks about pedals implies that he doesn't actually know much about what he's trying to talk down to. Referencing specifically, "pedals that make you sound like everything but your guitar. . . a box that makes it sound like an algorithm." Does he not realize that a good 65%-75% of new pedals that are coming out these days are drive pedals? Sure, some of those will color your tone a bit, but overwhelmingly, they just take your guitar and make it louder. How could he not already know this?
― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Saturday, 4 November 2017 03:21 (six years ago) link
I think it may have something to do with his profound lack of imagination.
― cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 4 November 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link
He’s just a prototypical blues guitar dork
― Spottie, Saturday, 4 November 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link
to be fair he could have been talking about this pedal which is the worst pedal i ever bought and i can't believe i bought it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-N_Ar3xfak
― global tetrahedron, Saturday, 4 November 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link
lulz, that is at the top of my wish list right now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Saturday, 4 November 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link
Someone on fb pointed out that Joe sells his own line of pedals. Further research revealed TWENTY-FOUR DIFFERENT JOE BONAMASSA DOG SWEATERS:https://shop.jbonamassa.com/collections/dog-apparel
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 4 November 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
Protecting the blues? JFC
― The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 4 November 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/3pAJczv.jpg
― earlnash, Sunday, 5 November 2017 03:45 (six years ago) link
lol his rig is so simple and bluesy it only takes nearly seven minutes to explainhttps://youtu.be/UqB0fJLALd4
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 5 November 2017 03:57 (six years ago) link
That TC Electronic 2290 Dynamic Digital Delay was originally owned by Charley Patton.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 5 November 2017 11:53 (six years ago) link
haha
― The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 6 November 2017 06:32 (six years ago) link
I need to know when the theremin comes into play.
― The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 6 November 2017 06:33 (six years ago) link
There was a vid upthread of him theremin-ing out. It's...exactly what you'd expect.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 6 November 2017 07:03 (six years ago) link
OMFG he is LARS ULRICH PROVE ME WRONG
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Monday, 6 November 2017 12:16 (six years ago) link
Lars is so much cooler and more interesting than this guy
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 November 2017 12:35 (six years ago) link
speaking of metallica, i saw them live a couple of weeks ago and i noticed kirk playing a battered les paul that looked vaguely familiar - then i remembered i'd read that kirk bought peter green's legendary '59 les paul and i spent the rest of the show trying to work out whether he was indeed playing a $2m guitar onstage
i guess what i'm saying is that i have become the thing i hate
― What's the range of an Iranian frogman dipshit? (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 6 November 2017 12:40 (six years ago) link
Lars sipping champagne and auctioning off Basquiat paintings in Some Kind of Monster is so baller, metal nerds can't handle flossin on that level
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 November 2017 12:51 (six years ago) link
Fun fact: Lars' godfather was Dexter Gordon.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 6 November 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link
yeah also maybe Don Cherry? at least i read him and Neneh Cherry were friends as kids
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 November 2017 21:17 (six years ago) link
lars is very charismatic, imo, napster bs notwithstanding
― brimstead, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 01:28 (six years ago) link
the existence of this thread... i mean, the painfully boring interminable concert i saw on pbs 4 years ago was enough trauma, i never thought i'd be periodically reminded of this silly man and his constipated musical stylings.. it's just crazy, he's is doing is SO wrong. he is getting MUSIC wrong. music is supposed to lift you out of this brutal corporeal existence and create a supernatural experience.. it's not supposed to be like watching a guy bench press and admiring his beads of sweat and furrowed eyebrows.. gahh!
― brimstead, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 01:35 (six years ago) link
it's not supposed to be like watching a guy bench press and admiring his beads of sweat and furrowed eyebrows.. gahh!
this isn't the right analogy... i'm just mad at joe and wish i knew why
― brimstead, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 01:40 (six years ago) link
Its because he went down to the crossroads and then decided he wanted to be Clapton, and not even the Clapton of Cream or the Dominoes, but the Clapton of 24 nights at the Royal Albert Hall and wearing suits that cost more than the creators of the blues made in their lifetimes.
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link
joe drove through the mcdonalds where the crossroads used to be and a minimum-wage emissary of satan sold him a blues-themed happy meal for the price of his eternal dignity
― with your tight body and horrific androgynous monster face (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 14:50 (six years ago) link
Bonamassa is the logical "tasteful" endpoint of that Guitar mag thread....avoiding the late 80s pyrotechnics but the concept of exhibition as an end-point aesthetic, who can only get that magical tone out of 'that' guitar....except he needs to own 326 identical copies.
― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link
now that you mention it i wonder if joe is consumed by burning jealousy at the thought of kirk hammett owning peter green's old les paul instead of him
― with your tight body and horrific androgynous monster face (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link
But those guys were my guys – Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page. There's a certain sophistication to their approach to the blues that I really like, more so than the American blues that I was listening to. B.B. King's a big influence – he's probably my biggest traditional influence. I love Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson and T-Bone Walker and stuff like that, but I couldn't sit down. I was always forcing myself to listen to whole records by them, where I'd rather listen to Humble Pie do "I'm Ready" than Muddy Waters, you know? I think, the English interpretation of the blues just hit me a lot better, you know?
I think Joe would be good at SHOCKING ILM confessions.
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link
so he's def consumed with burning jealousy at kirk hammett owning peter green's guitar
― with your tight body and horrific androgynous monster face (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
he's such a normie he probably doesn't even know peter green
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link
I just watched a really boring experimental guitarist and I'm suddenly much more sympathetic to Joe's views on effects pedals.
― na (NA), Saturday, 2 December 2017 03:51 (six years ago) link
FP
― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Saturday, 2 December 2017 06:44 (six years ago) link
yesterday there was a telethon giving away bonamassa tickets with lots of bonamassa performances shown. i had to wonder what corner of the music market i had just wandered into.
― adam the (abanana), Thursday, 7 March 2019 18:53 (five years ago) link
I just had a six minute Joe music video come up AS AN AD on Youtube.
Seems like he could make bank if he went Country.
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 23:24 (five years ago) link
I was just checking out Jim Suhler and Monkey Beat (Thorogood's second guitarist) and one track had a long, winding solo, partly Bill Nelson hyperspeed and partly that huge Hendrix-y sound Robin Trower got on Bridge of Sighs. It was an interesting solo and didn't really sound like the rest of the record, so I checked the credits and it's Bonamassa. So now I've actually heard something by him I like.
― A breezy pop-rock feel fairly typical of the mid-'80s (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 22:45 (four years ago) link
I get it too Eddie. But part of being a total musician is embracing all music and diving down the musical rabbit holes. I’ve listened to BB King to EVH to Frank Sinatra and back. I was 17 too but I knew Ron Wood played bass with the Jeff Beck Group. https://t.co/bSD1NshzWg— Joe Bonamassa (Official) (@JBONAMASSA) December 3, 2019
― ☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link
incredible on-brand #content from our hero there
one must assume that as a total musician he is very familiar with billie eilish's own back catalogue
― A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:41 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgE9JKHU-f4
― Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link
Wow, Bonamassa's got pretty big ears I'll give him that
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link
reads like one of those classic Introduce Yourselves posts
― Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link
loving this take
First off, who is Billie Eilish? Most likely, she'll be forgotten in 10 years. BIGGER POINT is how Van Halen have ruined their legacy since the nonsense of firing Hagar in 1996, and then decades of inactivity and career missteps. Look to The Rolling Stones on preserving legacy.— Wes Olesen (@WesOlesen) December 3, 2019
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link
some GIRL would never have the lasting cultural legacy of *checks notes* Sammy Hagar???
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link
the comments on that post are a goldmine of capital-t Takes
― A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link
keenly awaiting Bob Lefsetz's take on Joe's take
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkbn_X57VCw
― Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link
may we be shown bonamassa tweets with very happy guys
Thank you for coming. We had a blast! 😎👍 https://t.co/m1KV5m2eV5— Joe Bonamassa (Official) (@JBONAMASSA) November 23, 2019
― A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link
baller-ass joe making it rain at the aurora music and pawn retirement sale
What a hoot negotiating with these 2 guys today at Aurora Music and Pawn retirement sale. Congratulations on 40 years in business. 😎👍 pic.twitter.com/1aQ2OJiEqr— Joe Bonamassa (Official) (@JBONAMASSA) October 31, 2019
― A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link
pretty sure Van Halen have ruined their legacy since hiring Sammy Hagar in 1985
― éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link
are you suggesting Hagar is... Horrible
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link