― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 9 June 2003 19:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Marien, Monday, 9 June 2003 23:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 01:10 (twenty years ago) link
― matt klasdjasdfjklf, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 05:30 (twenty years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 05:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 05:54 (twenty years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 05:56 (twenty years ago) link
Hey idiot boy -- this is ILM, it's a *MUSIC DISCUSSION BOARD* Invariably there is going to be some differences of opinion regarding certain artists (not just your precious Dave Matthews) and, summarily, a certain degree of "talking some shit" is going to go down. Go cower under your duvet if you can't handle it, but chastizing folks for having and expressing entirely grounded and justifiable opinions is a ridiculous statement.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 11:57 (twenty years ago) link
isn't sterling assuming these ppl are 15? or have i missed the bit where DMB fans state their age?
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 12:03 (twenty years ago) link
they're all under 21 surely!
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 12:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 12:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 12:20 (twenty years ago) link
― James, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 12:23 (twenty years ago) link
(I'm 30)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 12:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 13:21 (twenty years ago) link
(side question: and why does Jaz have a wedge of lime stuck to the side of his hand?)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 13:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 13:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 13:51 (twenty years ago) link
When the apocalypse comes, you don't want to be caught without your limes.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 13:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 13:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 13:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:00 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:04 (twenty years ago) link
I discovered Duran Duran at about 12 or 13. And Duran Duran made me the person I am today!In my book that means you have good taste.
Waitasec? 60%? How'd you come up with that figure, Yanc3y?
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:06 (twenty years ago) link
But then I've disproved your theory because I gained that taste at a tender age too young to register on your radar! (Maybe girls mature earlier? Oh no, because hence the existence of gloop like 5ive, etc.)
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:12 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:25 (twenty years ago) link
Are we talking about the same band? Brit boyband from about 3 or 4 years ago?
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:31 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:35 (twenty years ago) link
Then he popped in a Dave Matthews Band CD. He said, "Ya know, Dave Matthews Band is just good fucking music, man."
"Just good fucking music, man."
I didn't like it one bit.
Not one bit.
― Cub, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 16:00 (twenty years ago) link
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 20:18 (twenty years ago) link
― james, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 21:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Climate Hunter, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 21:25 (twenty years ago) link
Oh come on! You can READ, can't you?
― J (Jay), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 22:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Climate Hunter, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 23:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Applepie Baseball, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 00:31 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 00:32 (twenty years ago) link
the responses from regulars (who should be ashamed of so vigorously taking advantage of their relative experience with defending their tastes by arguing) remind me particularly of mark's second paragraph in clarke's 'boring' thread.
a more fruitful way to understand this thread's original question might be, following mark, to assume that the people who like dave matthews do not do so because of a lack on their part (a lack of taste, intelligence, character, experience, or anything else). your conception of how a person could like dave matthews would seem to have some bearing on why you don't like him. (perhaps making certain answers easier.) then an interesting question becomes, why is it so important to you to make it clear that you are not like that person (exemplified by your not liking dave matthews)?
I would say that in my late high school years, into the time I went off to college, a very wide range of people in my age group and older, in different social groups, liked dave matthews to some extent. this was around the time of 'under the table and dreaming'. I remember their first couple-few big singles as significant presence on the radio. I recall a review from the time noting matthews' 'frat-boy existentialism' as a potential fault, but giving him a pass because there is still something fulfilling about even frat-boy existentialism, at times. the association with frat boys bothered me because I hadn't really seen that connection - it seemed like an inaccurate thing to say at the time, though it became more accurate later as the band's audience changed. something similar to that point about the faulty-but-good-enough existentialism (especially found in 'crash', I think) could probably be said about the music's character and sound, especially in terms of difference from the prevailing styles of the timeon rock and mainstream alternative radio.
― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 06:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:43 (twenty years ago) link
― dmbfan012003, Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Thursday, 12 June 2003 16:00 (twenty years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Thursday, 12 June 2003 16:04 (twenty years ago) link