2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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what are some flowers that you think are pretty? no? just one, then? no? okay.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link

not even quick enough on her feet to evade credibly! that is like political skill #1! "oh katie you know i can't endorse anyone in the media, ha ha. sometimes i watch you, you know..." shit ain't hard

xp haha

goole, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:44 (fifteen years ago) link

she couldnt name the fucking anchorage daily news

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (max), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:44 (fifteen years ago) link

she was on the cover of about 7 magazines last week and she could say a single one

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (max), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:45 (fifteen years ago) link

well she damn sure doesn't read that! xp

goole, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:45 (fifteen years ago) link

mccain is going to have a hard time presenting her as the new spiro agnew when she cant even name a single media outlet to be resentful toward

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (max), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:46 (fifteen years ago) link

HH: Governor Sarah Palin, welcome to the Hugh Hewitt Show. Great to have you.

SP: Hey, thank you so much. Nice to hear your voice.

HH: Governor, your candidacy has ignited extreme hostility, even some hatred on the left and in some parts of the media. Are you surprised? And what do you attribute this reaction to?

SP: Oh, I think they’re just not used to someone coming in from the outside saying you know what? It’s time that normal Joe six-pack American is finally represented in the position of vice presidency, and I think that that’s kind of taken some people off guard, and they’re out of sorts, and they’re ticked off about it, but it’s motivation for John McCain and I to work that much harder to make sure that our ticket is victorious, and we put government back on the side of the people of Joe six-pack like me, and we start doing those things that are expected of our government, and we get rid of corruption, and we commit to the reform that is not only desired, but is deserved by Americans.

HH: Now Governor, the Gibson and the Couric interview struck many as sort of pop quizzes designed to embarrass you as opposed to interviews. Do you share that opinion?

SP: Well, I have a degree in journalism also, so it surprises me that so much has changed since I received my education in journalistic ethics all those years ago. But I’m not going to pick a fight with those who buy ink by the barrelful. I’m going to take those shots and those pop quizzes and just say that’s okay, those are good testing grounds. And they can continue on in that mode. That’s good. That makes somebody work even harder. It makes somebody be even clearer and more articulate in their positions. So really I don’t fight it. I invite it.

HH: Have you followed the attacks on you, say, via Drudge or the blogs? Some of them are just made up and out of left field, others are just mocking. Do you follow those?

SP: No, I sure don’t, and thank God I don’t have time to follow those. You know, I think that those shots, too, though, no matter what we’re taking and receiving, it’s nothing compared to what real shots are against Americans in this world. Americans today who are worried about losing their home and figuring out how in the world they’re going to pay their fuel bill next month, and send their kid to college, and may be worried about losing a loved one that they’re sending off to a war zone to protect our rights. Those are the shots that Americans are taking, so all this political nonsense and the lies, the rhetoric that is spun out there about someone just trying to offer themselves up in the name of service to this great country, I’ll take it.

HH: Governor, you mentioned the people who are struggling right now. Have you and your husband, Todd, ever faced tough economic times where you had to sit around a kitchen table and make tough choices?

SP: Oh my goodness, yes, Hugh. I know what Americans are going through. Todd and I, heck, we’re going through that right now even as we speak, which may put me again kind of on the outs of those Washington elite who don’t like the idea of just an everyday working class American running for such an office. But yeah, there’s been a lot of times that Todd and I have had to figure out how we were going to pay for health insurance. We’ve gone through periods of our life here with paying out of pocket for health coverage until Todd and I both landed a couple of good union jobs. Early on in our marriage, we didn’t have health insurance, and we had to either make the choice of paying out of pocket for catastrophic coverage or just crossing our fingers, hoping that nobody would get hurt, nobody would get sick. So I know what Americans are going through there. And you know, even today, Todd and I are looking at what’s going on in the stock market, the relatively low number of investments that we have, looking at the hit that we’re taking, probably $20,000 dollars last week in his 401K plan that was hit. I’m thinking geez, the rest of America, they’re facing the exact same thing that we are. We understand what the problems are. It’s why I have all the faith in the world that John McCain is the right top of any ticket at this point to get us through these challenges. It’s a good balanced ticket where he’s got the experience, and he’s got the bipartisan approach that it’s going to take to get us through these challenges. And I have the acknowledgement and the experience of going through what America is going through.

HH: Governor, when you say things are tight right now, is that simply because of Todd being off not working? Or is it because of extraordinary demands on the fiscal resources of the Palin family? What’s the situation there?

SP: No, it’s just the great financial crisis that America is in as our savings accounts also, and a 401K, they’re being hit.

HH: Sure.

SP: Our stocks, you know, they took a hit yesterday. And then of course, just the same thing that other Americans are asking themselves today. We’ve got three teenagers. How are we going to pay for their college education? How are we going to make sure that we’re investing wisely today. We’re putting a lot of faith in other people who are using our money as investments. We have to count on the federal government to be overseeing these agencies and entities, making sure that we’re not going to get screwed on this deal, and that our savings are safe. So there again, John McCain’s got some great ideas on granting authority, for instance, to the FDIC, making sure that our deposits are insured. He wants to increase that deposit insurance cap of all of our money, our savings, from $100,000 dollars up to $250,000 dollars, so that families like mine, so that we don’t have to worry about our money being safe or not under FDIC.

HH: Governor, let’s turn to a couple of issues that the MSM’s not going to pick up. You’re pro-life, and how much of the virulent opposition to you on the left do you attribute to your pro-life position, and maybe even to the birth of, your decision, your and Todd’s decision to have Trig?

SP: Yeah, you know, I think that that’s been probably the most hurtful and nonsensical slap that we’ve been taking is our position that we have taken, pro-life, me personally, and saying that you know, even though I knew that 13 weeks along that Trig would be born with Down Syndrome, and I said you know, he’s still going to be a most precious ingredient in this sometimes messed-up world that we live in. I know that my son is going to provide a lot of hope and a lot of promise in this world, and I’m so thankful of course that I’ve had the opportunity to give him life and to bring him into this world. But I think yeah truly, that that’s been a hurtful slap that we have taken, because people just don’t understand. Ironic too, Hugh, that some would consider my position on life and trying to usher in a culture of life, respecting the sanctity of life in America, that that is seen as an extreme position when to me, an extreme position is one that Barack Obama took when he was in the Illinois State Senate, not even supporting a measure that would ban partial birth abortion, not even supporting a measure that would during, after a botched abortion and that baby’s born alive, allowing medical care to cease and allowing that baby to die. That to me is extreme. That’s so far, far left it’s certainly out of the mainstream of America. To me, that is the extreme position, not my position of just wanting that culture of life to be respected, and not wanting government to sanction the idea of ending life.

HH: Do you think the mainstream media and the left understands your religious faith, Governor Palin?

SP: I think that there’s a lot of mocking of my personal faith, and my personal faith is very, very simple. I don’t belong to any church. I do have a strong belief in God, and I believe that I’m a heck of a lot better off putting my life in God’s hands, and saying hey, you know, guide me. What else do we have but guidance that we would seek from a Creator? That’s about as simple as it gets with my faith, and I think that there is a lot of mocking of that. And you know, so bet it, though I do have respect for those who have differing views than I do on faith, on religion. I’m not going to mock them, and I would hope that they would kind of I guess give me the same courtesy through this of not mocking a person’s faith, but maybe perhaps even trying to understand a little bit of it.

HH: Governor, let’s close with some foreign affairs. It is reported that you had an Israeli flag in your governor’s office. You wore an Israeli flag pin occasionally. One, is that true? And two, why your support for Israel?

SP: Well, it is true, and I ran into Shimon Peres recently at a meeting, and he even pointed that out. He said I saw a picture of you on the internet, and you had an Israeli flag in your state government office, and I said I sure do. You know, my heart is with you. And all of those trials and tribulations throughout history that Israel has gone through, not only does that allow me to want to support that country, but Israel is our strongest and most important ally in the Middle East. And they are a democratic country who I believe deserves our support, and I know that John McCain believes as I do that Israel is our friend, and we need to be there to support them. They are there for us, and I do love that country.

HH: Last question, Governor. Have you and Todd heard from your son? And how is it on your nerves having your son deployed?

SP: That little stinker, I guess he’s called his girlfriend a couple of times, but can you believe he hasn’t called his momma yet? He’s over there. They were just leaving Kuwait heading into Iraq, and I am just so extremely proud of Track, my son, and all of the men and women, of course, serving in the military. I’m proud that my son made this independent and very wise decision as such a young man at 18, deciding you know, he realized there’s something he can do to help, to contribute, to help protect our nation, and I couldn’t be more proud of him and all those who choose to serve in our military. They’re serving for the right reasons. God bless them, God love them.

HH: Governor Sarah Palin, look forward to talking to you again, good luck on Thursday night.

SP: Thank you so much. Talk to you soon.

rogermexico., Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:48 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't mean to tempt fate but i am EXCITED for this debate, guys

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:48 (fifteen years ago) link

You guys realize she used to be a sport reporter for a newspaper in Alaska, right? She has a degree in comm/journalism.

Kerm, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link

im sure that she was just worried abt choosing an unacceptable paper - of course the fact that she thought saying all of em would be a good look is pretty much as damning as actually not knowing any

the mccain campaign has clearly sat her down all like you cant say ANYTHING thats not on these three pieces of paper ok

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Now Governor, the Gibson and the Couric interview struck many as sort of pop quizzes designed to embarrass you as opposed to interviews.

unbelievable. i mean, not really, but jesus.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link

the mccain campaign has clearly sat her down all like you cant say ANYTHING thats not on these three pieces of paper ok

this seems pretty dumb to me frankly, i bet shed be a lot more effective as a base-stirrer if they just let her say whatever she wanted like the unleashed id of the republican party

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (max), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link

yah it is dumb but theyre pretty fucked either way

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I genuinely was unsure if that Palin/Couric newspaper exchange was from an SNL sketch or something.

john mccain's illegitimate black child (musically), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Would it have been so hard to say Wall St. Journal? I'm sure even people who couldn't name a supreme court case could have at least said that much.

Nicole, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:54 (fifteen years ago) link

i just need NEED before this is all over someone to ask her abt dinosaurs plz plz plz

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not looking forward to the Republicans letting Palin loose, but I think it's coming. It will work a lot better than the strategy of trying to get her to sound like a normal politician, and so they'll (soon) find it the only possibility of coming back.

I don't think I can stomach watching Thursday night.

Peter Cetera (Euler), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:54 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, that's what i was thinking Nicole. like, even Republicans can admit to reading the Wall St Journal, right?

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:55 (fifteen years ago) link

"joe six-pack"?

○◙i shine cuz i genital grind◙○ (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:55 (fifteen years ago) link

she keeps saying it, too, roxy! i think she's talking about an actual person.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I ran into Shimon Peres recently at a meeting

john mccain's illegitimate black child (musically), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link

point is she has no idea if sighting the wall st journal will freak out the gop base or the media or independents or whoever - shes paralyzed w/fear

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh hey Shimon! Fancy meeting you here...

john mccain's illegitimate black child (musically), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link

man it must be so fun to work for the daily show right now.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link

OK SURPRISE SURPRISE but she either lied to hugh hewitt or to shimon peres or both

HH: Governor, let’s close with some foreign affairs. It is reported that you had an Israeli flag in your governor’s office. You wore an Israeli flag pin occasionally. One, is that true? And two, why your support for Israel?

SP: Well, it is true, and I ran into Shimon Peres recently at a meeting, and he even pointed that out. He said I saw a picture of you on the internet, and you had an Israeli flag in your state government office, and I said I sure do. You know, my heart is with you.

http://www.nysun.com/national/palin-only-flag-in-my-office-is-israeli/86671

September 26, 2008

PALIN: 'ONLY FLAG IN MY OFFICE' IS ISRAELI

President Peres of Israel yesterday met for the first time with Governor Palin and with Senator McCain, who called the veteran Israeli statesman "my old friend." The warm handshake and exchange of broad smiles occurred during an international gathering known as the Clinton Global Initiative, hosted by President Clinton. "I wanted to meet you for many years," Ms. Palin told Mr. Peres, according to an aide to the president. "The only flag at my office is an Israeli flag," she was quoted as saying, "and I want you to know and I want Israelis to know that I am a friend."

pic of her office:

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/1237/palinflag.jpg

goole, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link

You do a disservice to the times you actually need to call someone a pathological liar by calling her one.

caek, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:02 (fifteen years ago) link

1. she can't lie, she just gets stuff wrong by chance
2. to be fair, she could have mean the only non-American flag

caek, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link

debate drinking game on thurs gwan be so much fun yall

vast variety of sources where we get our HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link

full segment

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:09 (fifteen years ago) link

do you expect two mavericks to agree on everything?

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Now Governor, the Gibson and the Couric interview struck many as sort of pop quizzes designed to embarrass you as opposed to interviews.

Thing is, for any half-professional pol - say an LA City Council rep - those "pop quizzes" would be slow-pitch softballs.

rogermexico., Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm exclusively relying on this guy for my news updates from now on:

Z S, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:31 (fifteen years ago) link

random thought after reading that Hugh Hewitt interview. i wonder if "Joe Sixpack" actually doesn't mind being referred to as that. Would someone who actually was a "Joe Sixpack" even be aware of that term, let alone use it?

Proposition Josh (rockapads), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:37 (fifteen years ago) link

uh, yes.

Kerm, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:40 (fifteen years ago) link

her responses on climate change and evolution seem pretty lucid and consistent...

rogermexico., Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:43 (fifteen years ago) link

hi!

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:44 (fifteen years ago) link

sup

joe 40oz (deej), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link

as i tried to create fred forty...

low ranking monkeys don't look at high ranking monkeys (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:47 (fifteen years ago) link

my name is joe and i like beer

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:48 (fifteen years ago) link

yah but yr dick gets thicker quicker with st ides malt liquor

joe 40oz (deej), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:52 (fifteen years ago) link

"her responses on climate change and evolution seem pretty lucid and consistent..."

Really? Her it doesn't really matter if we are contributing to it or not seemed pretty glib to me.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:55 (fifteen years ago) link

her responses on climate change and evolution seem pretty lucid and consistent...

You mean where she says it doesn't matter whether global warming is man made, just that we stop it? How exactly do you stop global warming without curbing things man does that we believe cause it? How is that lucid or consistent?

And yes, she is willing to have evolution taught in schools. GAME CHANGER!

xpost

da croupier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:57 (fifteen years ago) link

The inimitable K-Lo, on Palin's refusal to name the magazines she reads to keep informed:

As soon as I saw it on CBS earlier (I trust most of you have better things to do with your time!), I knew the new conventional wisdom would be something like "she bans books and doesn't read." And sure enough. The e-mails are coming in. Obviously the governor of Alaska reads. And what it looked liked to me is the governor of Alaska decided she wasn't going to play along with Couric. Whatever she answered would be scrutinized for the next 24 hours for what she included and left off. So instead she let Katie badger her a little. (I half expected Palin to say, Katie, I even have a Blackberry in Alaska!)

And now the ticket is in yet a better position to run against the media.

Who knew a McCain ticket would ever be in a position to do such a thing?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:59 (fifteen years ago) link

The excerpt:

Couric: And when it comes to establishing your world view, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this to stay informed and to understand the world?

Palin: I've read most of them, again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media.

Couric: What, specifically?

Palin: Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me all these years.

Couric: Can you name a few?

Palin: I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news, too. Alaska isn't a foreign country, where it's kind of suggested, "wow, how could you keep in touch with what the rest of Washington, D.C., may be thinking when you live up there in Alaska?" Believe me, Alaska is like a microcosm of America.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 02:00 (fifteen years ago) link

also lesbianism is a choice her unnamed friend of 30 years made that she did not. I think that was the plot of Personal Best.

da croupier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 02:00 (fifteen years ago) link

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:_uNEq7AMl8icjM:http://bp2.blogger.com/_Y_BH6iOaCk4/SChljbOrYiI/AAAAAAAAAAM/yiNyBVJiRa0/s400/Sarah_Palin.jpgmy friend choose to eat box... she likes the flavor maybe?

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 02:05 (fifteen years ago) link

the reform that is not only desired, but is deserved by Americans.

original dixieland jaas band (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 02:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Dudes, lucid =/= I agree. Jeez.

She's adhering to a version of the party line that balances appeasing the xtian wackos while not sounding like a crazy person. Of course that's glib. But that, foax, is DOING THE JOB. Most of the time she's just wandering lost somewhere in the vast Yukon of the mind...

And yeah, gay = lifestyle choice remains true only IFF yr gay and in the closet.

rogermexico., Wednesday, 1 October 2008 02:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Believe me, Alaska is like a microcosm of America, as I have learned upon visiting your country over the last month.

gabbneb, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 02:19 (fifteen years ago) link


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