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Will there be a U.S. counterpart?

I want to say yes, but -- typically -- there's lots of conflicting info on the Joke front.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 25 June 2005 01:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

www.fabchannel.com : their show in De Melkweg, Amsterdam on October 3rd will be webcast.

StanM (StanM), Monday, 27 June 2005 13:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

Are there bonus tracks? I've always wanted to get "Pssyche" on CD.. and there's the live version on the Laugh? comp, but not the original one that was a b-side to the "Wardance" 7"

donut e-g (donut), Monday, 27 June 2005 19:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

You can get the studio version of "Pssyche" on The Unperverted Pantomime

There are bonus tracks on all the re-masters, though not as many as I'd have preferred.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 27 June 2005 19:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

Hmm, will investigate. I'm really happy with the Wilful Days comp as it did a good job of collecting a lot of the tracks that escaped the first few albums, as well as remixes.

donut e-g (donut), Monday, 27 June 2005 19:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

(Outside The Gate era tracks, notwithstanding)

donut e-g (donut), Monday, 27 June 2005 19:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I saw the reissues of the first albums were upcoming and thus made plans to *whisper it* sell back my current copies, thus risking the wrath of Alex temporarily. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 June 2005 19:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

My only real problem with Wilful Days was the screw up with "A New Day" (though they listed its inclusion, the track that ended up on Wilful Days is actually the single's flip-side, "Dance Day"). A regrettable oversight. As such, "A New Day" has never --- as yet -- been officially released on disc. Here's hoping it will be appended to the re-mastered editions of NightTime.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 27 June 2005 19:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

You mean you haven't seen the tracklistings for the reissues yet? I know I caught them around somewhere...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 June 2005 19:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

Well, the tracklistings for the first few (first album through Revelations and --- YES! -- Ha! Killing Joke Live), but I haven't heard about any extra tracks on Fire Dances and NightTime.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 27 June 2005 19:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

My only real problem with Wilful Days was the screw up with "A New Day" (though they listed its inclusion, the track that ended up on Wilful Days is actually the single's flip-side, "Dance Day"). A regrettable oversight. As such, "A New Day" has never --- as yet -- been officially released on disc. Here's hoping it will be appended to the re-mastered editions of NightTime.

Damnit! I'm in shock. I thought I was getting the real thing. I'm glad you caught that.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 21:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

I tried Amazon, and no dice on the track listings..

donut e-g (donut), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 22:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
Oh my God. Can someone please explain what happens at the end of the bonus track version of Bloodsport? Christ, it's like the bass becomes completely unhinged, the entire foundation falls out from beneath your bottom and all that's left is a frightening arse-shaking FUNK that would likely leave even Curtis Mayfield shaking in his boots. Whew! *wipes brow* That is SCARY stuff, kids.

Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Saturday, 30 July 2005 10:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

I feel so terribly silly. I thought Change was on the first album, proper. If it wasn't then I can't figure out the first time I might have heard it. That makes me feel really weird. Surely it was on the first album? But it wasn't. I can't figure it out. Where would I have heard "Change" for the first time then? This bothers me.

Alex in NYC or not, there is some delightfully wonderful sonic bombast to be had, here. The bonus track of Requeiem for starters. "Primitive" is rather interesting, too.

Olivia Orange Juice Newton John (Bimble...), Sunday, 31 July 2005 22:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Change" was originally the single b-side of "Requiem." It was appended to the American edition of the first album.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

Oh Christ does that make me feel better. I had a used copy of the album on vinyl which was probably the American version. Whew! I'm not going senile...yet.

Olivia Orange Juice Newton John (Bimble...), Monday, 1 August 2005 17:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

i am beginning to fall under the continued pressure, i may even cave in and get these bloody reissues.

i have always held the joke at arms length as they have always been top of my list as the worst live gig i ever went to.

now, i realise this is a sin to certain folks, but they were dreadful. they had got lost enroute and it was obvious that they were in a seriously pissed off mood and didn't want to do the show (1987 - Leeds Uni - with the awesome Lorries on support) - so they just rushed through the stuff at distortion levels due their overly late stage time.

not enjoyable.

however, as the last album ripped a big hole in my playlist i feel its time to do the research and go back in time.

also it means i may begin to understand the ever fresh passion of Alex, something that amazes even me with my ongoing well known infatuations.

mark e (mark e), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

This is more of a general info question for the KJ die-hards:

I have the Incomplete Collection box set and never bothered to research any variance in track listing on the albums from the original studio releases, nor have I ever checked for any b-sides I might have missed from '80 to '85. The albums in the box are the only KJ I know (to '85 that is), and they're all of course fantastic.

So, is there something big I missed out on?

jsoulja (jsoulja), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

As far as I'm aware, the only reason to buy The Incomplete Collection was to obtain the different colored vinyl. Beyond that, it was irritatingly frill-free (which is why I never bothered to get it). I don't even think it came with a poster or anything.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 1 August 2005 21:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

Should any give a rolling rat fuck (and if you do, you probably have too much time on your hands), I weigh in on the remasters here .

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 1 August 2005 21:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
Not that any of you swine care, but....the latest from RAVEN:


Dear Gatherers and friends of the fire,
Greetings and I trust you are all in good spirits.
So much has happened since my last yard entry, I must just mention Dimebags death, which was a tragedy both personal and for music, I never met anyone that had the lust for life that that man had, he lived and died for his love of the music. Rest in Peace Dime & much love to Rita, Riggs, Philip, Rex & Kat along with all the Pantera family worldwide. 
 
Well…we have fought many battles to get through this last period since KILLING JOKE 2003 came out it’s hard to know where to start so I wont, I’ll just go on to say that we have banished a few of the demons from our midst and are far better off for it.
 
Prague has been the base for much merry making as well as hard work, we would like to thank all the long suffering bartenders in Prague city, they have seen KILLING JOKE at our absolute best/worst this year and tolerated it with grace, thanks to Nora, Tomas, Marika, and all the staff at ‘Through the Looking Glass’ & The New Rangers Crew in Karlova 25.
 
We are all pssyched about the new album, which will be called HOSSANAS FROM THE BASEMENTS OF HELL. We recorded the album in Prague 6 at Faust Studios and it sounds amazing, Jerry Kandiah engineered the record and we are producing ourselves these days...(no change there then)
I must say that I am proud of Jaz and Geordie, Benny and Reza as everyone has stepped to the plate and delivered beyond expectation, we feel it is some of the best work we have ever done under the banner KILLING JOKE… but hey!  we’ll let you decide.
 
You will all get a chance to meet Jerry & check out his other talents, along with drummer Lord Hedgewick & bass maestro Blaise, when they join us out on the UK/EU tour w/ his band TRIBAZIK.
 
While we’re talking tours…
 
The Motley Crue tour was a fucking joke & we hated it. There was problem after problem and a whole bunch of bullshit from the business end to get through that made the whole experience pretty draining all round. We overcame adversity and ‘…kicked ass’ as those morons would say. Always got time for Sixx, he’s a true geezer with low end to spare, but the rest can go hang. Our crew excelled & Crues stage crew were accommodating, but the headaches out weighed the fun & as usual that usually means destruction and chaos in return from our end culminating in Motleys manager getting knocked out in London. Well done that man! We drank a lot and went fucking mental non stop ending up in London with debts and a hangover like you wouldn’t believe.
 Any way fuck that.
 
We need to thank all the Gatherers & the hardcore that showed up to see us at BARFLY in Camden on the 21st for the Kerrang Jester Benefit, we had a great time & it was excellent to finally meet Jester Joe & see him in such good spirits in the face of adversity. Butcher, I owe you an apology for behaving like a hooligan.
 
We will be auctioning the original lyrics to ‘Turn to Red’, ‘Are you Receiving?’ & ‘Nervous system’ on www.killingjoke.com very soon as well as some other choice items including a bass guitar from Warwick & something ‘special’ from Jaz to raise more funds so keep your eyes peeled.
 
We are planning a playback party of the soon to be released KILLING JOKE DVD from the XXV Gathering in Feb called THE BAND THAT PREYS TOGETHER STAYS TOGETHER, along with previews of the HOSSANAS FROM THE BASEMENTS OF HELL CD which will not be available till Feb 2006. It will be held at The Cochran Theatre, which is Southampton Row, London WC1. On Sunday 16th October, that’s the Sunday after we play the Astoria. We are waiting on confirmation at this point re the date but I will keep you all informed.
There will be only 300 seats for this event so tickets are being made available to Gatherers first…of course.
 Email me at killingjoke1@gmail.com to reserve. The tickets for this event will be £20 and all the proceeds will go to Jesters fund.
We are planning on making the fund a permanent fixture at the site so that Gatherers that are in need will have a chance of getting treatment should they fall ill & need help.
 
We all know what happened in summer, we did a few festivals but cancelled shows as we were under pressure to complete the new album, sometimes it’s really hard to swap heads in mid stream. Sorry to everyone in Germany who was disappointed by our cancellations. However, KILLING JOKE will be back in Germany in December to make up for it so look out for us and please come, we will show up THIS TIME! Really looking fwd to a Berlin show at the now legendary SO36.
 
We are gearing up for our European tour starting in Gent Belgium on Thursday 29th September. We expect loyal Gatherers & mad Belgians to show in force! That means you Marnick! Come witness the first sober (except Benny) Killing Joke shows in years! Ha ha ha. See you down the front motherfuckers.
 
Finally, Gems of Power, the spoken word box set that I did w/ Jaz in Prague is being made available, thank you to the many of you who have already shown interest. Those Gatherers who have reserved signed numbered copies of the first edition need to email me again at  killingjoke1@gmail.com
And those orders will of course be filled first.
 
Respect & regards, 
 
Your grinning bass hound.
 
 r a v e n

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 15:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

awesome title.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 15:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...
Crap title, actually.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 10:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

Well, I think it's a great title given their evolution into more of a "metal" atmosphere. It seems like a logical step, if it can be said that a Jaz Coleman project can find basis in logic.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

4 years pass...

StanM, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 20:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

kiliing joke developments

hk phooey (crüt), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 21:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

Recent NZ TV interview (17 Aug) with Jaz on the new album here

Bill E, Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

Terrible cover. Incredible record.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

is this out yet?

aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

What exactly is that image? A cross being used as a cell tower or a speaker pole or some reference to cameras in London?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

It's a cell tower I think

Bill E, Thursday, 16 September 2010 02:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

This cover is so awful:

But this track is so good:

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 14:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

heard that track earlier today, my nerves have yet to recover. immense.
but yes, truly awful awful artwork ..
if they removed the skull and the engine part (??) then that would be an improvement.

mark e, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 14:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

This song is a monster. As monstrous as that cover art.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 15:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Terrible cover. Incredible record.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:07 PM (1 year ago)

lol seems to be a recurring theme.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cannot wait to FINALLY see Killing Joke in person for the first time at Roadburn in April.

Great tune, too.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Paul Ferguson really needs to dump the hi-hat/cymbals from his kit. The first 4 albums had such a unique sound in large part due to the tribal tom patterns and high frequency space opened up to Geordie's flanged jazz chords.

Don't mind Youth bringing in psy-trance production touches, but I haven't cared much for the past 22 years of KJ being the respectable Ministry alternative.

Sanpaku, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Really, nobody else has sounded quite like prime era KJ. Certainly not later KJ.

Sanpaku, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

That may be, but as far as I'm concerned, EVERY ALBUM aside from "Outside The Gate" has been immensely enjoyable when it came out and has a place in their catalog - the metalic "Pandemonium", the acoustic "Democracy", the violently angry "KJ 2003" and the long sludgy grooves of "Hosannas" are all really different from one another and all fantastic.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 9 February 2012 01:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

absolute dissent is a pretty great album, the first in a long time from them that I thught really sounded like old school KJ.

I heard from a friend they were 'awful' in LA last year and had a tech stand in for Youth...true?

I like this new song.

akm, Thursday, 9 February 2012 05:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

New album is balls...

...of fire raining from the sky and scorching my eardrums with awesomeness!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 05:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nice! New KJ take a few listens to reveal the nuances but, yeah, more greatness. Frankly I find every single album aside from Outside The Gate to be worthy, no idea how I'd rank them as they seem to change with each one.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 12:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Any thoughts on "MMXII"? Lyrically, Jaz is completely nuts - FEMA camps, really? At times it sounds like a cross between Brighter and Repressed Emotions. It's not bad but it's not grabbing me like the last one.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 21 April 2012 23:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

I'll keep posting on this ghost thread. New singles collection coming out - it's 33 individual CD singles! Jeez... Deluxe edition comes with a sweet disc of odds and ends, though.

Tracklist: Killing Joke, The Singles Collection: 1979-2012: Super Deluxe Edition

CD 1
1. “Nervous System”
2. “Turn To Red”

CD 2
1. “War Dance”
2. “Pssyche”

CD 3
1. “Requiem”
2. “Change”

CD 4
1. “Follow The Leaders”
2. “Tension”

CD 5
1. “Empire Song”
2. “Brilliant”

CD 6
1. “”Chop-Chop”
2. “Good Samaritan”

CD 7
1. “Birds of A Feather”
2. “Flock The BSide”

CD 8
1. “Let’s All Go (To The Fire Dances)”
2. “Dominator”

CD 9
1. “Me Or You?”
2. “Wilful Days”

CD 10
1. “Eighties”
2. “Eighties” (Coming Mix)

CD 11
1. “A New Day”
2. “Dance Day”

CD 12
1. “Love Like Blood”
2. “Blue Feather” (Version)

CD 13
1. “Kings And Queens”
2. “The Madding Crowd (Remixed By Killing Joke)

CD 14
1. “Adorations”
2. “Exile”

CD 15
1. “Sanity”
2. “Goodbye To The Village”

CD 16
1. “America”
2. “Jihad”

CD 17
1. “My Love Of This Land”
2. “Darkness Before Dawn”

CD 18
1. “The Beautiful Dead”

CD 19
1. “Money Is Not Our God”
2. “North Of the Border”

CD 20
1. “Exorcism” (Live In King’s Chamber Cairo, Aug 1993 Mix)
2. “Whiteout” (The Intellect Is Ugly Remix) (Mandragora Edit)

CD 21
1. “Millennium” (Cybersank Edit)
2. “Millennium” (Cybersank Extended Remix)

CD 22
1. “Pandemonium” (Cybersank Edit)
2. “Pandemonium” (Cybersank Extended Remix)

CD 23
1. “Jana”
2. “Jana” (Dragonfly Mix)

CD 24
1. “Democracy” (Album Mix)
2. “Mass”

CD 25
1. “Loose Cannon”
2. “Wardance” (Ultimate Version)

CD 26
1. “Seeing Red” (edit)
2. “Seeing Red” (Jagz Kooner Remix w/vox)

CD 27
1. “Hosannas From The Basements Of Hell” (Radio Edit)
2. “Afterburner” (Alternative Version)

CD 28
1. “In Excelsis”
2. “Kali Yuga”

CD 29
1. “European Super State” (edit)
2. “European Super State” (Youth Remix)

CD 30
1. “Fresh Fever”

CD 31
1. “Ghosts of Ladbroke Grove”
2. “Ghosts of Ladbroke Grove” (Dub)

CD 32
1. “In Cythera” (Edit)
2. “Penny Drops”

CD 33
1. “Corporate Elect”
2. “New Uprising”
3. “In Cythera” (Bloody Beetroots Remix)

CD 34: RARITIES DISC
1. ‘Transient Place’
From ‘Freispiel: The Soundtrack’.
2. ‘Zennon’
B-side of ‘Loose Cannon’ single.
3. ‘Drug’
From the ‘Mortal Kombat’ soundtrack.
4. ‘Hollywood Babylon’ (longer intro mix)
From the ‘Showgirls’ soundtrack.
5. ‘Our Last Goodbye’
From the ‘Free The Memphis 3’ album.
6. ‘Sixth +Sun’
Unreleased track from the ‘Absolute Dissent’ sessions.
7. ‘Wardance’ (Naval Mix).
8. ‘Requiem’ (Acapella Mix).
9. ‘Pandemonium’ (Aotearoa Mix)
Full-length.
10. ‘Four Stations Of The Sun’
Studio version
11. ’Feast Of Fools’ (rough mix)
Unreleased track from the ‘Absolute Dissent’ sessions.
12. ‘iBuy’ – with Tim Burgess.
Track for Classic Rock collaborations CD.
13. ‘Timewave’ (rough mix)
Unreleased track from the ‘Absolute Dissent’ sessions.
14. Jaz & Youth Shamanic Ritual Live in the King’s Chamber Giza Pyramid
(Pre-recording vocals for 3.Pandemonium).
15. ‘Ravings of Jaz’
(A conversation on philosophy between Youth & Jaz circa 2003).
16. ‘Intellect’ (feat. Aboud Abdel Al)
Track from ‘Democracy’ (previously unreleased version featuring this celebrated violin player).

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 12 January 2013 20:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Good last disc, but do none of those CD singles have the 12" content?

Mark G, Saturday, 12 January 2013 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I noticed that. Weak!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 12 January 2013 21:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

So I heard the 3CD "In Dub" collection that just came out. It's really more like Youth-plays-some-electronic-dub-and-occasionally-samples-Jaz. It has it's moments - an old favorite is the fantastic 10 minute Floating Leaf dub mix of "Requiem". Not sure I need to hear much of it again, though.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 03:28 (8 months ago) Permalink


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