Classic or Dud: Swans

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Gira acts unexpectedly campy in that video, quite John Lydon-ish. Thanks for posting that, I've not seen it years. It was on 120 Minutes and prompted me to buy their records.

robert in SLC (robert in SLC), Sunday, 17 September 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh - one more thing I forgot to say about Jarboe's performance was at the end of her cover of DCD's "American Dreaming" she held a picture of President Bush up and tore it in half very slowly.

Ficky Stingers (Bimble...), Sunday, 17 September 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh fuck! Space Gourmand mentioned Soundtracks For the Blind! I was so close to pulling that out last night, I heard that cymbal crash drumming thing in my head for some reason. But I was too tired and passed out instead. I will pull that out right now. That is definitely one of if not my favourite Swans album.

Ficky Stingers (Bimble...), Sunday, 17 September 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

This album totally fits my mood today. God, thanks ILM. I would have totally forgotten that I'd even thought of this album last night.

Ficky Stingers (Bimble...), Sunday, 17 September 2006 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay I figured out in what song that cymbal crash drumming thing is that was in my head. It's in "I Was A Prisoner In Your Skull".

Ficky Stingers (Bimble...), Sunday, 17 September 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

aka "Look, Dudes, I've Just Invented GYBE!"

listening to it now, with SFA's 'Mountain People' the perfect alphabetical introduction.

Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Sunday, 17 September 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Definitely classic.

Just got "Soundtracks for the Blind" the other day, but haven't really had the proper setting to listen to it.

I do remember being very off-put by a lot of the "Various Failures" compilation when I first got it, since I'd only ever heard the early stuff ("Public Castration is a Good Idea" is probably the most brutal album I've ever heard), but I've gotten a lot more comfortable with their later period in the last couple years. I especially dislike the cover of "Black Eyed Dog". The way Jarboe sings it just bugs me.

vartman (novaheat), Friday, 29 September 2006 03:30 (seventeen years ago) link

"The way Jarboe sings it just bugs me."

boooooooooooo! ya should have seen her do it live. scare the pants off ya.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 29 September 2006 03:34 (seventeen years ago) link

good band, but is it too cliche to wish they'd been able to up the tempo a bit? rolling stone hated them on this basis alone.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 29 September 2006 03:46 (seventeen years ago) link

live Jarboe: great
studio Jarboe: not so much

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 29 September 2006 04:18 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

I think I've decided my fav Swans album is:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2BkqYXCVGL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

ilxor, Friday, 6 March 2009 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2BkqYXCVGL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

ilxor, Friday, 6 March 2009 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm going to give that one another listen really soon because I think out of all the Swans studio albums, it's the one I'm least familiar with.

Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Friday, 6 March 2009 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, I adore that record. I fell in love with Swans with "Holy Money," purchased on cassette from a Seattle pawn shop around 1987? 88?, tipped off by something I'd read in SPIN. (Hard to believe, looking back.) "Children of God" followed, plus the "Love Will Tear Us Apart" 12"s.... "The Burning World" soundtracked the summer after my senior year in high school. And then "Love of Life" and "White Light from the Mouth of Infinity" just blew my mind wide open. When I think of those records, all I can think is MASS (as in volume, as in weight, and communion, all at once).

pshrbrn, Friday, 6 March 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Hmmm.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 May 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I know, I've had enough with these reunions, but this is SWANS

StanM, Friday, 29 May 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

dude just said he was thinking about swans as he got into his car after a show

鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 29 May 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I do this all the time

鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 29 May 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

gira: "at some point in the future, there is a chance that swans would maybe play some shows, possibly. can I get in my car now?"

internet: SWANS REFORMED TOUR IMMINENT

鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 29 May 2009 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link

that said, if it's a gira-jarboe-westberg-kizys-parsons reunion I will print this thread out and eat it

鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 29 May 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Someone told me he doesn't get along with Jarboe now, is that true?

"But didn't MBV come from a nasty goth background?" (Bimble), Friday, 29 May 2009 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

That's about how it works, yeah. (xxpost) :-)

StanM, Friday, 29 May 2009 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

"I was just thinking gee I bet I could get a better guarantee if I credited this to Swans"

da croupier, Friday, 29 May 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

a friend saw his solo show in boston a couple weeks ago, said it was mindblowing

鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 29 May 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link

swans are dead! they can't play again.

scott seward, Friday, 29 May 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

they should really leave it be. and i say this as someone who considers them one of their top ten fave bands.

scott seward, Friday, 29 May 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link

original article here: http://brainwashed.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7536&Itemid=1

I love Swans, but not sure I want to see a naked, sweating, 55-yr-old Gira...

Duke, Friday, 29 May 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link

they were so amazing on that swans are dead tour though... okay, i'd go see them. hahahaha!

scott seward, Friday, 29 May 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

A reunion seems somewhat strenuously unlikely.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 29 May 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe Gira just wants to resurrect the name to play all those songs and house his new Swans-sounding material, and get whoever he wants to join in? Not necessarily with Jarboe (she wasn't in the band from the start, who knows, maybe he's not going to ask her permission), a choice of five or six drummers, guitarists, bass players, or maybe even new people?

StanM, Friday, 29 May 2009 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, how many incarnations have there been? Which one would be THE reunion?

StanM, Friday, 29 May 2009 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link

A reunion seems somewhat strenuously unlikely.

not willing to talk out of school any further than this, but it doesn't seem unlikely to me.

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Friday, 29 May 2009 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link

You just want to see Edward III print out this thread and eat it too, don't you? :-)

StanM, Friday, 29 May 2009 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I saw 'em @ the Fab Mab in '86.

The 2 drummers had way oversized kits and cymbals (16" hit hats as I recall), the bass ran through TWO giant folded horn cabs, Jarbo had one. Gira was really pissed the venue hadn't supplied the requested 10,000 watt PA (for a venue about the size of CBs).

I SWEAR that everyone in the audience looked like they were being subject to massive G-forces and seemed to be physically exhausted and beaten up after the show. I was really happy to have been @ the side of the stage.

BRILLIANT.

factcheckr, Saturday, 30 May 2009 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link

If there is any reformation I'd like to see it's this one. I would kill to see Swans live.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 30 May 2009 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link

not willing to talk out of school any further than this, but it doesn't seem unlikely to me.

OOoooooooh. Somebody knows something.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 30 May 2009 01:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I love Swans, but not sure I want to see a naked, sweating, 55-yr-old Gira...

See this seems so close to the point of what Swans were actually about

Iniesta, I Can Boogie (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 May 2009 01:46 (fourteen years ago) link

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If there is any reformation I'd like to see it's this one. I would kill to see Swans live.

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sonderangerbot, Saturday, 30 May 2009 01:49 (fourteen years ago) link

16" hihat not weirdly overszd actually, just a bit fuller when fuller is a good thing.

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 30 May 2009 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link

StanM upthread has it. There won't be any Swans "reunion", because Swans is just Michael Gira plus whoever he wants to play with him.
It's highly unlikely he would bring back any of the former members, even Jarboe (they don't get on anymore).

anagram, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 08:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Hmmmmmmmmm @ the last sentence here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinnie_Signorelli

StanM, Monday, 8 June 2009 10:33 (fourteen years ago) link

unexpected noise moments: algis kizys listed in credits as "driver" for this show

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shalom_in_the_Home

鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 8 June 2009 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i would like them to reform since I missed the last time they played in the bay area because I got confused and had my weeks off and have regretted this ever since.

akm, Monday, 8 June 2009 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link

No more updates re: possibilities then? Not even about the once-rumored archived live recordings?

Come on Swans! Public Is A Good Idea!

StanM, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 08:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Gira mentions the possibility of playing again as Swans in a new newsletter here:

http://younggodrecords.com/News/Detail/?C=2218

anagram, Thursday, 11 June 2009 08:53 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Okay so I just had that rare musical blowaway moment -- 'Helpless Child' on Soundtracks For The Blind!

Oh my God.

David Katz (davek_00), Sunday, 3 January 2010 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Something's underway. The official Swans Myspace page just got changed from saying "Swans are dead" to "Swans are not dead". And there's a new song posted, credited to M Gira/Swans (just a demo, though).

anagram, Saturday, 9 January 2010 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.myspace.com/swansaredead

anagram, Saturday, 9 January 2010 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link

OMG! Thanks for the quick heads up!

Not Insane is one of his solo things: http://younggodrecords.com/Releases/Detail.asp?C=2217 , but it also says Swans, so ?

StanM, Saturday, 9 January 2010 07:33 (fourteen years ago) link


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