i can't really even watch the game anymore, I just follow some of the stories like this and occasionally check boxscores. it's mostly CTE-related but also just the culture around the entire league in this day and age seems more and more garbage.
― nomar, Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
four of the ten people in our office talk about pro football way too damn much, really hoping this whole death spiral picks up speed
― sleeve, Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link
There are already so many reasons to stop watching the NFL. I don't need "CTE might make 'em murder people". "CTE might make 'em commit suicide to figure out why their brain won't stop screaming" was plenty.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:23 (six years ago) link
The couple guys who shot themselves in the chest to make sure their brains could be examined is just the most devastating detail of all this to me
― .oO (silby), Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link
The link between traumatic brain injuries and increased violence and other psychiatric disorders is pretty clear at this point.
― louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 21 September 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link
What kind of finalized it for me was the fact that it seems that CTE is also just the result of the day-to-day low-level physical punishment incurred from playing football, just the "regular" hits, not just the ones where a guy stands up and can't remember his name for a minute.
― nomar, Thursday, 21 September 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link
To be completely frank, what finally did it for me was XLIX. It's good that now I can support my argument against the atrocious joke of a sport that is american football based on medical science, but tbrr the game has been bullshit for years. The vast majority of the owners in the cartel are completely uninterested in parity or winning, and have no ties to their stadium towns. It's not remotely entertaining anymore. To wit, Magary's column today:
Now, I could bitch all day at the NFL to do something about all of these problems in order to field a better product, but you and I know that’ll never happen. The NFL worked very hard to cultivate all of their entrenched, long-term woes, and they’re not going away anytime soon. What they need, then, is a cheat. They need a cheap, quick fix to help polish the turd, and I think I have just the kind of ridiculous, shortsighted answer they might require:Legalize holding.
Legalize holding.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 21 September 2017 23:33 (six years ago) link
https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/19/16314082/nfl-ratings-colin-kaepernick-los-angeles-rams-owners-money
― mookieproof, Friday, 22 September 2017 00:54 (six years ago) link
url kinda covers it all huh
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 22 September 2017 01:06 (six years ago) link
that's just seo. it's a pretty good piece, though it could have gone in harder. also IT MENTIONS ESPORTS HI TOMBOT
― mookieproof, Friday, 22 September 2017 01:09 (six years ago) link
I didn't need SB Nation to tell me the NFL is boring as hell these days.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 22 September 2017 01:12 (six years ago) link
i have heard the cartel argument for a few years now. no argument.the death spiral thread is way more active than the week three thread on a game night.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 22 September 2017 01:15 (six years ago) link
tbf tho these teams
― Mordy, Friday, 22 September 2017 01:18 (six years ago) link
.@criscarter80: Yes, I’m scared but football has given me everything I love.An emotional Cris Carter on CTE in the NFL. Via @FTFonFS1 pic.twitter.com/X2d9Dkc16Y— FOX Sports (@FOXSports) September 22, 2017
― Spottie, Friday, 22 September 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link
sad to see how he contradicts himself again and again in that monologue
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 22 September 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link
more or less saying my brain may be toast later but it was worth it. will sing a different tune i reckon if his brain goes south at a young age.
― Spottie, Friday, 22 September 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKXvMddW4AArTng.jpg:small
― mookieproof, Saturday, 23 September 2017 01:28 (six years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/22/opinion/aaron-hernandez-cte.html
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 23 September 2017 01:59 (six years ago) link
This will be like trying to figure out Ice cube's good day. "What game was he watching when..."
― ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 23 September 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link
Xp
― ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 23 September 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link
I should know better than to ask but is that presumably Trump quote real
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 September 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link
the NFL is good again, I'm a fan now. thanks Trump.
― nomar, Saturday, 23 September 2017 02:48 (six years ago) link
I’m so conflicted right now
― El Tomboto, Monday, 25 September 2017 12:32 (six years ago) link
he repeats stuff so often in that quote that it starts to sound like a weird folk song.
"when the nfl ratings are down (massively, massively)" - a song for accordion and men's choir.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 25 September 2017 12:39 (six years ago) link
https://deadspin.com/report-california-class-action-lawsuit-against-pop-war-1819751848
― .oO (silby), Sunday, 22 October 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link
Researchers confirm CTE detected for first time in a live person, according to exam of ex-NFL player https://t.co/Cxv3l0HUtj— Chicago Tribune (@chicagotribune) November 15, 2017
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link
https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/22/magazine/22-leitch.nocrop.w710.h2147483647.jpgPanthers vs. Bears, October 22. Photo: Scott Boehm/AP Photo
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/leitch-is-this-the-end-of-the-nfl.html
A few weeks ago, sportscaster Bob Costas told a group of students at the University of Maryland that “the reality is that this game destroys people’s brains” and that “the whole thing could collapse like a house of cards if people actually begin connecting the dots.” Costas is a smart man, and more than that, he is a survivor: One of the skills of his career has been understanding which way the winds are blowing and adjusting accordingly. For the past several years, he was the host of the pregame show for the most-watched NFL game every week, Football Night in America. He left the show this year and has been speaking out against the NFL ever since. For the past few years, it was reasonable to wonder whether defending the NFL was going to put you on the wrong side of history. It is becoming increasingly clear that that history is nigh.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 25 November 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2017/12/5/16737164/steelers-bengals-dangerous-hits-ryan-shazier-vontaze-burfict-joe-mixon
Rough night
― Jeff, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 11:45 (six years ago) link
“I don’t like seeing that kind of football,” Gruden said.“It’s an ugly night,” McDonough said
“It’s an ugly night,” McDonough said
earlier in the broadcast both of these guys were constantly bemoaning all the penalty flags that were being thrown, and at one point Gruden started praising Burfict, implying that his willingness to get fined was part of what made him a great player to watch. can't have it both ways I guess.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link
will nfl return to leather helmets
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 15:53 (six years ago) link
excellent piece on the american football death spiral https://thebaffler.com/salvos/downward-spiral-roth
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 December 2017 00:29 (six years ago) link
I assume at some point the NFL owners will decide that they don’t actually need anyone to play football during a football telecast.
― .oO (silby), Sunday, 10 December 2017 01:03 (six years ago) link
Just 12 hours of fighter jet flybys, national anthems, breast cancer awareness, and artfully thrown penalty flags.
― .oO (silby), Sunday, 10 December 2017 01:04 (six years ago) link
I’m glad for the revive because I needed to post this:https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/forget-about-colin-kaepernick-i-think-im-done-with-the-1821136817
It was the first time in a long time that I just decided not to watch an entire Steelers game. And while I missed the game, I didn’t actually miss it.
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 10 December 2017 01:14 (six years ago) link
Damon didn't miss that feeling of being slightly distracted and intermittently entertained, interspersed with dozens of commercials and frequent tedium?
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 10 December 2017 01:38 (six years ago) link
https://deadspin.com/fox-is-seeking-los-angeles-area-actors-who-can-pretend-1821152419
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 10 December 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
lol that url stub is very good
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
also the rams being one of the best teams immediately upon moving to LA and still not attracting any fans is a victory for humanity
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link
whenever i'm talking football w/friends around here in L.A., I always try to mention "The San Diego Chargers" at least once and i've never once been corrected.
― omar little, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link
gaining two NFL teams no one wanted, teams that historically possess the exact same color scheme, is a recipe for hilarity.
― omar little, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
not sure if this has been covered other places but a bunch of NFL Network/ESPN analysts/x-players have been accused of sexual misconduct/harassment and have been suspended for now.
In it, she names producers and on-air talent as subjecting her to unlawful discrimination and retaliation. Those named include former executive producer Eric Weinberger, who is now president of the Bill Simmons Media Group, as well as current and former on-air TV analysts Marshall Faulk, Ike Taylor, Warren Sapp and Heath Evans.
also Mcnabb and Eric Davis from ESPN.
https://www.si.com/tech-media/2017/12/12/nfl-network-sexual-harassment-jami-cantor-lawsuit-faulk-mcnabb-weinberger
― Spottie, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
espn execs walking slowly backwards like there is nothing to see in our company culture
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link
hopefully chris berman gets lit up for real this time
― Spottie, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link
does he have a history with this i don't know about?
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/11/10/report-espn-settles-sexual-harassment-claim-involving-chris-berman/
― Spottie, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link
missed that entirely. not too surprising sadly.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link
Read the oral history of ESPN book by the guy who did the SNL oral history
Basically, it was a frat house and I wouldn't be shocked to see stuff about anyone that worked there
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link
In it, she names producers and on-air talent as subjecting her to unlawful discrimination and retaliation. Those named include former executive producer Eric Weinberger, who is now president of the Bill Simmons Media Group, as well as current and former on-air TV analysts Marshall Faulk, Ike Taylor, Warren Sapp and Heath Evans.also Mcnabb and Eric Davis from ESPN.
― Spottie, Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:50 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Simmons has certainly been a purveyor of toxic masculinity in the past but to his credit he's evolved and The Ringer is a progressive, gender-equitable site, so while I see Weinbeger has already been placed on indefinite leave, hopefully he'll be swiftly axed assuming these allegations hold up.
― evol j, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:48 (six years ago) link
xp mike tirico was suspended for harassment and stalking at ESPN--he's about to be the face of NBC's Olympics coverage and I wouldn't surprised if people dredge up his old allegations
― Cat Person (Putting Out Fire) (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link
wouldnt be surprised by just about anything at this point. hoping that stu scott is clean tho.
― Spottie, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link