ILX 70s album poll

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So I put Refazenda in my top 10 and it didn't even make the top 200? sheesh.

― These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link

122 T. Rex - Electric Warrior 164

this has got to be the real SHOCKA... how could this have happened??

And I'm glad The Who got clowned haha

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

BTW what's London Calling like compared to The Clash (which I own but never listen to)?

much, much, much longer

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Have we done one of these for the 80s? maybe i missed it

― Michael Copeland, Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link

No, we haven't.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Sundar, yeah, I was just joking around, maybe unsuccessfully.

― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Damn, well we should. I'm definitely voting in that one.

― Michael Copeland, Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Hold up.

If you don't think DSOTM isn't top fucking ONE HUNDRED you're a dickpipe.

― PB, Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Most criminal omissions:

Who's Next
Every Picture Tells A Story
Born To Run
Zuma

Classic rock was woefully under-represented and post-punk was over-represented. Can't wait to see the singles poll.

What's next, Hobart? 80s? 90s? 60s? This is the most fun ever.

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link

90's was done already, sometime last year, I think. I'd vote for doing 80's next, personally.

― whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link

in other news: what comes next: 80s or 60s? ?
-- Matt Sab, April 28th, 2005.

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I thought we agreed on the 50s.
-- Alba, April 28th, 2005.

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80's next, definitely.
-- Keith C, April 28th, 2005.

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Hold your horses, people - we still haven't done the tracks poll.
-- o. nate, April 28th, 2005.

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I'd like to see the 50s next (and do vaguely remember that that we'd agreed on that, whatever "we" "agreed on" might mean).
-- RS, April 28th, 2005.

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I guess I missed that debate. 50's-60's would be perfectly fine for songs, but I don't think it's as interesting to do albums for those decades since the LP format wasn't dominant in rock or r&b until the mid 60's.
-- Keith C, April 28th, 2005.

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What about other genres though?
-- RS, April 28th, 2005.

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This doesn't have to be limited to rock and R&B.
-- RS, April 28th, 2005.

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Doing the 50s will level the playing field in a way, since hardly any of us were alive then (even some older posters like me).
-- RS, April 28th, 2005.

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Keith - JAZZ!
-- Alba, April 28th, 2005.

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This doesn't have to be limited to rock and R&B.
Oh, of course not. In fact, if I voted for 50's albums it'd be mostly jazz and vocal stuff anyway. But rock and r&b would get the shaft, though.
Don't get me wrong, I never met a poll I didn't like.
-- Keith C, April 28th, 2005.

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please no 50s or Jazz polls
-- The Good Dr. Bill, April 28th, 2005.

― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link

8 postpunk albums
20 classic rock albums

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link

only 20 still strikes me as pretty low.

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I counted 10 postpunk albs, depends on how you classify of course

― These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

As much as I think this was a success, there were a lot of key records that weren't even nominated, like Starsailor and Headhunters.

What is the logic for only voting on nominated albums, anyway? Why be so exclusive?

― Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

80 rock albums

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I count about 20 punk/postpunk/new wave (which probably comes closer to the flexibility of the definition of "classic rock") records, not even including dubious things like Stooges or Kate Bush.

― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Mind you, a good number of those are stuff I've never heard like The Fall and Elvis Costello, in which cases I was going by how rock history books tend to classify them.

― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

What is the logic for only voting on nominated albums, anyway? Why be so exclusive?

I think the idea is to prevent having lots of albums that only one or two people have voted for, to make insure that the winners have won by some sort of substantial margin.

― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link

(If you're just counting British doom-rocky postpunk from like 1977-1979, that's a pretty narrow subgenre, isn't it? 8% is pretty great representation then.)

xpost Especially considering how flexible the nomination process was for this poll.

― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

151 lou reed 'metal machine music'

A joke taken too far?

― Cunga (Cunga), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

What is the logic for only voting on nominated albums, anyway? Why be so exclusive?
I think the idea is to prevent having lots of albums that only one or two people have voted for, to make insure that the winners have won by some sort of substantial margin.

-- RS_LaRue (Al__suca...), April 28th, 2005.

oh, i take back the "I really wish I'd voted", I forgot that the reason I abstain from all these polls is that I think this 'nominations' process is the stupidest bullshit ever.

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

3 disco albums - don't talk to me about classic rock getting robbed. plz.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I count about 26 classic rock (as in "gets play on FM classic rock stations") records. But like half of those are Bowie, so maybe that doesn't count. Actually this might be higher if I throw in stuff like Talking Heads.

xposts Fair enough. I think minimalism and free funk and motherfucking FUSION were robbed worst. Those and fucking Who's Next.

― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

(OK, truthfully, I was just happy to see Ornette place at all. You know I'll always still love you, ILM.)

― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link

o no, you dickpipes missed Dark Side of the Moon! more like I Hate Music, jeez!

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

151 lou reed 'metal machine music'

A joke taken too far?

No, that would be:

15 THE MODERN LOVERS - THE MODERN LOVERS

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I forgot that the reason I abstain from all these polls is that I think this 'nominations' process is the stupidest bullshit ever.

I agree, I'd prefer if there were no nominations and we could vote for whatever we like. In that case, we'd need about 400 more people to vote in order get any sort of consensus so that the list would mean something.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the idea is to prevent having lots of albums that only one or two people have voted for, to make insure that the winners have won by some sort of substantial margin.

I think it'd be better to eliminate the one-offs from the tally at the end instead of excluding them outright from the voting. For instance, you just say up front that "albums with only one vote don't get counted." So if you want to take that risk, that's your choice.

xpost

The poll results wouldn't look that different with open nominations. Look at pitchfork's.

― Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah i have to say having seen the whole poll and what didn't make it ornette placing seems like a pleasant miracle (esp. since that's the one that made me think 'fuck, i think i forgot to vote for that!' most.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link

HEY YOU GUYS - POST YR 70s BALLOT RIGHT HERES SUPERFUNFUN

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Is someone really considering starting up the next poll already? The results for this one aren't even all posted yet.

― billstevejim, Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I only actually have 11 of those. I thought it'd be more. I thus can't be any kind of an authority on the subject but I will say my vote would've gone to Singles Going Steady.

― Nick H (Nick H), Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Look at pitchfork's.

Exactly -- you can't get much consensus by polling only 20 people, which is why you need to take some of those lists with a grain of salt (they do make up for it somewhat by voting for 100 albums each, rather than the 35 (on average) that we did).

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Is someone really considering starting up the next poll already? The results for this one aren't even all posted yet.

I was thinking of volunteering my servics to do an 80's poll, but I was going to leave it a few weeks. Well, at least until the tracks are out of the way.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link

this has been the most drawn-out poll in history.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

didn't nominations start in november or december?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

november at the very latest

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago) link

it's like chinese democracy.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link

or chinese democracy, if you will. AND YOU WILL.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Mellow out dude, it's the '70s.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.vvinyl.com/toys/musictv/cc/cc.jpg

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I only have 68 of the top 100. I should pick up 2 more so I can make it an even SEVENTY!

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link

We did start nomination in November, after the 90's poll. Then we had the ILX outage, which killed some of the poll's momentum and took some of our nominations with it. Then we ran into end-of-year listmaking, so that's another few weeks gone.

If we do another poll, I think it should be saved for the fall. Give ILM a few poll-free months so that we come back in October ALL HUNGRY FOR SOME POLLING ACTION.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link

seconded!

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Thirded for the fall (summer is slow anyway), but I think we need a Council of the Elders sit-down on the rules. Heretics unite!

― Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link

How do we know we'll be alive in 6 whole months!? Eight-ees! Eight-ees! Eight-ees!

And three cheers for HP.

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link

HOBART HAS DONE WELL

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Where's The Saints?

Abso-fucking-lutely!!!!!!!

― Pradaismus (Dada), Friday, 29 April 2005 08:29 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, put off a new poll. the 70s singles poll is yet to be posted. and that should take us through to the end of the May.

― gspm (gspm), Friday, 29 April 2005 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link

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