Hip Hop taken to new levels.

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Um yeah so might as well bite the bullet and apologize for this thread since it was brought up the other day.
I was being stupid and immature wrongheaded. I emailed ned awhile back and apologized to him personally but whatever, I suppose I owe it to ILM or something. My apologies.

And remember, you can find hip-hop (writing) taken to new levels here:
Why do people who hate music write about music?

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 31 January 2005 09:45 (nineteen years ago) link

After many months, I finally picked some Dälek albums (I'm not sure how I could have missed them since they occupy a place right in the center of a lot of what I like), and I'm very impressed. This is very much what I had hoped for. Interesting that they would have collaborated with one of my all time favorites (Faust) without my noticing it.

I also checked out Aesop Rock, which I found rather pleaseant.

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Monday, 7 February 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

James Slone: www.anticon.com

rewritable, Monday, 7 February 2005 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Hi James! I remember you from my prog/metal-drenched youth.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 February 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey Jordan! Long time no see. The Perpetual Motion diaspora continues. Did that board go bottom up ever or what?

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Monday, 7 February 2005 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Did it? I jumped ship ages ago ('98? jesus). I looked at it sometime last year and it was the largely same people talking about the same ridiculous records.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 February 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Hehe, that's just sad. I haven't been there forever. I think Nightwish or Mundanous Imperium er whatever was the hot new band when I left. I can't even imagine the place anymore.

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Monday, 7 February 2005 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
what we're looking for here is the william s burroughs of rap. somebody who puts the g in fagit. somebody who hates and broods in their hate, developing it in an effort to kill themselves

psycho pete (pete38), Sunday, 18 June 2006 04:22 (seventeen years ago) link

(this thread needs to be clocked once and for all.)

aDOring NUTbians (donut), Sunday, 18 June 2006 06:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Rolling Stone compared Dr. Octagon to Wiliam Burroughs.

Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Sunday, 18 June 2006 07:02 (seventeen years ago) link

This place really couldn't ever handle JAMES SLONE.

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 18 June 2006 07:04 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

this seriously has to be the best and worst thread ever

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 6 December 2007 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link

lol

am0n, Thursday, 6 December 2007 02:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Boyz II Men (ft. Phil Collins) - Take Me Home

sleepingbag, Friday, 7 December 2007 00:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Spittin' Wicked Randomness still goddamn rules

PappaWheelie V, Friday, 7 December 2007 03:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I learned my lesson the hard way (and still have the scars to prove it), which was: DON'T ADMIT TO LIKING PREFUSE 73!

Cliftonb, Friday, 7 December 2007 03:39 (sixteen years ago) link

<i>Ned Raggett having thugs! That's crazy! No, no one ganged up on him! ddrake just came and started trouble in our normally pure community!

Christ.

have a good fucking life.</i>

forksclovetofu, Friday, 7 December 2007 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

i beieve the reason you haven't found any of this so far is because you were mistakenly looking for rock records.

-- fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, November 17, 2003 3:39 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

GOAT zing? Maybe..

The Brainwasher, Friday, 7 December 2007 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Second to maracas.jpg, maybe

Dom Passantino, Friday, 7 December 2007 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link

deej vs. ned beef woah

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 7 December 2007 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link

rly

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 7 December 2007 23:25 (sixteen years ago) link

hahahaha beautiful thread.

never ban bo jackson o if he revives threads like this.

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 December 2007 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link

haha this is the kind of thread i might have started myself a) if we're talking 2006 model LJ and b) if i didn't know of ethan's prowl

Just got offed, Friday, 7 December 2007 23:43 (sixteen years ago) link

it's nice to know that even deej got into regrettable ilm beefs when he was in college.

in other news, this is a pretty great response to one's first encounter w/ geir.

Dear god.
-- ddrake, Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:48 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 December 2007 23:49 (sixteen years ago) link

here's the weird thing. I actually appeared in this thread in 04. BETCHA CAN'T GUESS WHO I WAS

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 8 December 2007 03:19 (sixteen years ago) link

and no I wasn't Slone

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 8 December 2007 03:20 (sixteen years ago) link

deej = ddrake?

Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 8 December 2007 03:28 (sixteen years ago) link

i was retarded in this thread but it was one of the weirdest blount flipouts ever

deej, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link

This thread has actually prompted me to listen to The Infamous. Aw, there, see ddrake, aren't you happy now? Oh tell me you are happy! I cannot live without your approval!

-- Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, November 16, 2003 11:08 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

lol

deej, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:29 (sixteen years ago) link

victory

deej, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:30 (sixteen years ago) link

yea, FOUR YEARS AGO

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Is this thread like one of those contests, where the last one to take his hand off the truck wins $1000 or something? (Only explanation I could come up with why it's still so densely populated.)

-- Keith Harris (kharris1128), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 04:03 (4 years ago) Link

Sometimes I wish Keith had posted on ILX more, even though I know he always had better things to do.

da croupier, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:44 (sixteen years ago) link

The irony of the whole position you are taking here is it precludes us from any discussion on music...ever. Other than making each other aware of different performers. What is the point in arguing the relative quality of a recording when it is the listener's experience and context that decides whether it's worth hearing anyway?

lololololol @ deej taking the standard college freshman relativist position

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:47 (sixteen years ago) link

What position should he take?

three handclaps, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:48 (sixteen years ago) link

(Real question.)

three handclaps, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:48 (sixteen years ago) link

It's still pretty dodgy though the way otherwise smart posters were compelled by deej-beef to defend point blank some incredibly patronising assumptions in the original post.

"But I've become compelled by the idea of experimental hip hop. I expect that a surge of really experimental rap would cause a backlash worse than the anti-prog backlash of the late seventies, but I really can care less about purity aesthetics. I just want to hear something new or innovative in the genre. I feel the genre is being held back by conservatism within the movement. This can change."

In what universe does any sentence in this paragraph (apart from the first and the last if read in isolation) make sense?

Tim F, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:48 (sixteen years ago) link

In the universe most of us live in.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 8 December 2007 05:28 (sixteen years ago) link

o don't start it all up agin

Lostandfound, Saturday, 8 December 2007 07:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I think some of the problem in the case of the original poster was to already have a mapped out idea of what this new form of "innovative" hip hop would take. Musical progress isn't linear. There's just too many known and unknown variables to synthesize. Its kind of like the Silk Road effect, but only its augmented by todays ultranetworked world.

If anything it's the word "experimental" that conjures up the bad images for me, at least. Ideas, even good creative ones taken from a wide variety of musical styles - but that are poorly digested and badly executed - don't pan usually don't pan out too well for any genre.

Cliftonb, Saturday, 8 December 2007 10:07 (sixteen years ago) link

"don't usually pan out"

It late, alright. Get out of my marrow!

Cliftonb, Saturday, 8 December 2007 10:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Lostandfound otm. what have I done? (jumps out window)

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 8 December 2007 12:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Did Dom Passatino really go look up a poster's personal information on the internet, and then come back to the thread with it giggling like a little fucking schoolgirl?

Unbelievable.

-- Broheems (diamond), Monday, 17 November 2003 05:42 (4 years ago) Link

Just got offed, Saturday, 8 December 2007 13:10 (sixteen years ago) link

dom googles people. it's fucked up.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 8 December 2007 13:16 (sixteen years ago) link

omfg i've just read the entire thread...and it's goddamn familiar. most otm post = david a's near the end.

Just got offed, Saturday, 8 December 2007 13:37 (sixteen years ago) link

louis i wouldn't sweat it too much - deej caught sooooooooo much worse than this when he first popped up and dude is total one of the gang now. still - have you considered dissensus?

-- j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 31 July 2006 02:35 (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

Just got offed, Saturday, 8 December 2007 13:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I still prefer deej to you, to be honest.

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 8 December 2007 13:56 (sixteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

James.
You are asking for whiter hip hop.
Admit it.

― ddrake, Sunday, November 16, 2003 10:54 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dat dude delmar (and what), Monday, 24 November 2008 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I own thousands of rock records in gazillions of genres

^^ dude is going to have a hell of a time with the "genre" tag if he ever imports these into iTunes

nabisco, Monday, 24 November 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

hahahaha oh this thread

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Monday, 24 November 2008 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Extended songs, with long organic instrumental sections and lyrics focused on the abstract or taken from already existing source material (say a book of nineteenth or twentieth century poetry)

Cecil Taylor vocals

gabbneb, Monday, 24 November 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link


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