The Manson family vs. the West family

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Big news!

BREAKING: Charles Manson follower Leslie Van Houten granted parole by California board.

— The Associated Press (@AP) September 6, 2017

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link

Had missed she was granted it last year and Jerry Brown reversed it. Wonder if it'll happen again?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

damn

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:02 (six years ago) link

I doubt Jerry's changed his mind

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link

Brown's reversed Bruce Davis's parole four times.

jmm, Thursday, 7 September 2017 00:24 (six years ago) link

just finished The Life and Times of Charles Manson

def feels pretty definitive
the whole story is just so unreal
the most telling detail for me was the one thing he always returned to, after having taken a course in prison, was How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 7 September 2017 02:17 (six years ago) link

^ ding

yeah that made so many aspects of his behaviour click together

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 7 September 2017 03:58 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

About 30 pages into Jeffrey Melnick's Creepy Crawling: Charles Manson and the Many Lives of America's Most Infamous Family. Same idea as Dead Elvis and Unshackled: The Dustbin of Donald Trump: Manson is everywhere.

clemenza, Monday, 12 November 2018 04:10 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

"I'm gonna run for president one day and I'll be damned if I give them any ammo against me!"

nickn, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 06:43 (four years ago) link

Are we including the Kardashians?

adam the (abanana), Thursday, 6 June 2019 05:55 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Charles Manson follower Leslie Van Houten walked out of a California prison Tuesday after serving more than 50 years of a life sentence for her participation in two infamous murders.

Van Houten “was released to parole supervision,” the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation said in a statement.

Is she the only one to gain release?

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 21:12 (nine months ago) link

nevermind, I see that Squeaky walked years ago

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 21:14 (nine months ago) link

Missed this...I think she's the first directly responsible for the murders.

clemenza, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 21:21 (nine months ago) link

interesting article from a few years back about the ongoing rehabilitation of Van Houten, Kremwinkle & Atkins on behalf of a feminist coalition at the Santa Cruz prison project

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/keeping-faith-with-the-manson-women

i carry this info about her rehabilitation alongside the brutality of the LaBianca murders & I don’t really know where I land on it exactly

but i think prison is fucked & people deserve a second chance which also sounds naive of me idk

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 03:14 (nine months ago) link

Not sure how I feel either, other than surprised--I thought the Tate family was vigilant (and convincing) about no one ever getting parole.

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 03:47 (nine months ago) link

yeah - I think Sharon’s sister Debra was even representing on behalf of the LaBiancas. So I dunno.

I’d be interested to read what about this appeal turned things around.

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 03:57 (nine months ago) link

I just finished another Mad Men rewatch last night. Everyone remembers Meredith's great line to Harry about the Manson Brothers, but I'd forgotten Don's follow-up as he pulls in to the office: "Are they coming in?"

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 15:28 (nine months ago) link


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