2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

Funcies makes them sound way more adorable though, they should change the name.

dred scott is pro-life code now

yah drawing a parallel between it and roe v wade is a super common argument in fundieland

bush even gave it shout out during a 2004 debate http://www.thenation.com/doc/20041101/pollitt

BIDEN

http://getcontagio.us/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/acela.jpg

PALIN

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i remember that! sarah palin makes george w. bush look erudite.

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biden doesn't have boobies tho

you better believe he does

anyone driving the "normal people don't know a thing about the supreme court" argument should be arrested without being properly mirandized

so... the argument is that fetuses, like Dred Scott in the days of slavery, are not currently recognized as having any rights, or something...? Women claiming to "own" fetuses is akin to slavemasters "owning" slaves...?

sorry I am kinda surprised this inherently specious logic has obtained any kind of legal foothold whatsoever

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anyone driving the "normal people don't know a thing about the supreme court" argument should be arrested without being properly mirandized

I'm not excusing people's ignorance - I'm just pointing out that not being able to name a Supreme Court case probably isn't all that damning to the average American so what's the big deal.

it hasn't obtained legal foothold, it's obtained popular foothold with pro-lifers

I mean do you think Dubya could've named one prior to his first term? I fucking doubt it.

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I'm not excusing people's ignorance - I'm just pointing out that not being able to name a Supreme Court case probably isn't all that damning to the average American so what's the big deal.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:58 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

at this point palin isn't really about the opinion of "the average american" except as much as we can horrify conservatives harriet miers style into rebuking her, which then filters down to the average american

i bet dubya could've named one in october of 2000, yes

in December of 2000, though

there's no argument. invoking dred scott basically functions as code for overturning roe v. wade for anti-abortion activists

xposts what ethan said. damn y'all are fast.

IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE

i bet dubya could've named one in october of 2000, yes

haha okay I guess that one counts as IMMEDIATELY prior to his first term - ya got me

i don't agree w/ ethan btw

pretty sure dick cheney, al gore, joe lieberman, john kerry, john edwards, barack obama, joe biden, and john mccain could as well

Most Americans can't tell you the delineation of power among the three branches of government or name more than one or two amendments of the constitution or tell you how many years a representative serves or all kinds of shit that one might reasonably expect the VICE FUCKING PRESIDENT TO KNOW

a lot of people sure know what most americans don't know

Not to mention that the average american who doesn't know those things might still expect the VP to know them.

can you imagine the rolicking shit-show that will be unleashed when palin becomes the PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE

it doesn't matter if the initial reaction of "real americans" is a shrug, when it gets replayed on lou dobbs and neal boortz and jack cafferty and jon stewart as a lapse of intelligence they'll mock her for it even if they would've done exactly the same

I don't understand how credit default swaps work. I expect the treasury secretary and the chairman of the federal reserve to know how they work.

u guys lets stop arguing - what we need now are solutions!

biden doesn't have boobies tho

You haven't been squinting hard enough.

you know what kind of boobies i mean, i think. boobies that can guide the country. can joe biden's boobies guide the country

even after defending bush in this thread i think stuff like this is the prototype for palin

Bush circa 1994 projected wit and a modicum of intelligence much more successfully than Palin ever has.

it's the brainwashing what does it

she really should know dred scott. not only is she crazy on abortion, she's lazy about being crazy on abortion.

i feel like he really held out on us by not concluding that it all meant youve been given sovereignty and youre a TRIBE

Maybe she thinks Dred Scott was the pirate who crossed the Bering Straits in an attempt to conquer Siberia.

what about BUSH VS GORE

kind of an important case regarding her current situation

or lawrence v. texas...she hates the gays, right?

re: my earlier post: the idea of her frozen into silence is deeply appealing 2 me

RELEASE THE TAPE CBS

my favorite part of this thread today is where the miranda joke is completely glossed over.

thanking u schef

you can be familiar with your rights and not know that they are the product of a supreme court decision or the name of that decision

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Sorry. Just had to vent.

Morse v. Frederick aka Bong Hits 4 Jesus

That's straight outta Juneau during her reign so she ought to know that!

"She'll keep talking. And talking. And talking..."

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Morse v. Frederick aka Bong Hits 4 Jesus

hahaha oh man I WISH she had namechecked that one

http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=2037

Jeanne Moos is the single most obnoxious vocal presence in the universe

she's like a fran drescher / wolf blitzer hybrid