2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

guys Sarah Palin works on many levels

so do janitors

http://thepage.time.com/2008/09/30/in-a-tenth-avenue-state-of-mind-freeze-out/

apparently the clip that CBS is sitting on is one of Palin being unable to name a Supreme Court case other than Roe v. Wade

about bidens MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY YEARS IN TEH SENATE

i imagine to her supporters, this is the most damaging thing she can hurl at him -LOL A WASHINGTON FATCAT IS HE!

she's gotta be making the most ardent supporter grimace by now

apparently the clip that CBS is sitting on is one of Palin being unable to name a Supreme Court case other than Roe v. Wade

yeah that seems to have been confirmed by reputable sources. I'm just wondering about this "cheney shot his friend" thing that got repeated, but then I had a pretty hard time tracking down where that came from.

apparently the clip that CBS is sitting on is one of Palin being unable to name a Supreme Court case other than Roe v. Wade

― playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:42 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

Yeah they ask her to name another case and she doesn't fumble or stumble, she just sits there in silence like a deer in the headlights.

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apparently the clip that CBS is sitting on is one of Palin being unable to name a Supreme Court case other than Roe v. Wade

fwiw I'd bet most Americans can't name any other cases either

Moose v. Hick

AMAZING

xpost not really relevant even if it's true. most americans aren't running for almost-president

she's gotta be making the most ardent supporter grimace by now

Her most ardent supporters are already grimacing because they've been having nonstop orgasms since she was named to the ticket.

xps: oh come on, Brown vs Board of Education? Plessy vs Ferguson?

Her most ardent supporters are already grimacing because they've been having nonstop orgasms since she was named to the ticket.

my point exactly - her most ardent supporters are right-wing men who want to see her bodacious ta-tas.

yeah lots of people know brown v. board, i'd wager

being a fundie ud figure shed know dred scott

Shakey may well be right. the thing is, we expect anyone in national office to be part of the minority that can name plessy or brown.

Well, we expect anyone in national office to be part of that minority. A large chunk of America wants their leaders to be good at partying.

what does Dred Scott have to do with fundies?

Funcies have slaves, didn't you know?

this is zogby--aren't zogby's results always nuts--but still, lol

http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=13498

xpost: what is a funcie

Fundies

Funcies makes them sound way more adorable though, they should change the name.

dred scott is pro-life code now

yah drawing a parallel between it and roe v wade is a super common argument in fundieland

bush even gave it shout out during a 2004 debate http://www.thenation.com/doc/20041101/pollitt

BIDEN

http://getcontagio.us/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/acela.jpg

PALIN

http://acrasiadrazel.org/Pics/Fail/TRAIN%20WRECK%20FAIL.jpg

i remember that! sarah palin makes george w. bush look erudite.

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biden doesn't have boobies tho

you better believe he does

anyone driving the "normal people don't know a thing about the supreme court" argument should be arrested without being properly mirandized

so... the argument is that fetuses, like Dred Scott in the days of slavery, are not currently recognized as having any rights, or something...? Women claiming to "own" fetuses is akin to slavemasters "owning" slaves...?

sorry I am kinda surprised this inherently specious logic has obtained any kind of legal foothold whatsoever

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anyone driving the "normal people don't know a thing about the supreme court" argument should be arrested without being properly mirandized

I'm not excusing people's ignorance - I'm just pointing out that not being able to name a Supreme Court case probably isn't all that damning to the average American so what's the big deal.

it hasn't obtained legal foothold, it's obtained popular foothold with pro-lifers

I mean do you think Dubya could've named one prior to his first term? I fucking doubt it.

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I'm not excusing people's ignorance - I'm just pointing out that not being able to name a Supreme Court case probably isn't all that damning to the average American so what's the big deal.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:58 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

at this point palin isn't really about the opinion of "the average american" except as much as we can horrify conservatives harriet miers style into rebuking her, which then filters down to the average american

i bet dubya could've named one in october of 2000, yes

in December of 2000, though

there's no argument. invoking dred scott basically functions as code for overturning roe v. wade for anti-abortion activists

xposts what ethan said. damn y'all are fast.

IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE

i bet dubya could've named one in october of 2000, yes

haha okay I guess that one counts as IMMEDIATELY prior to his first term - ya got me

i don't agree w/ ethan btw

pretty sure dick cheney, al gore, joe lieberman, john kerry, john edwards, barack obama, joe biden, and john mccain could as well

Most Americans can't tell you the delineation of power among the three branches of government or name more than one or two amendments of the constitution or tell you how many years a representative serves or all kinds of shit that one might reasonably expect the VICE FUCKING PRESIDENT TO KNOW

a lot of people sure know what most americans don't know

Not to mention that the average american who doesn't know those things might still expect the VP to know them.

can you imagine the rolicking shit-show that will be unleashed when palin becomes the PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE

it doesn't matter if the initial reaction of "real americans" is a shrug, when it gets replayed on lou dobbs and neal boortz and jack cafferty and jon stewart as a lapse of intelligence they'll mock her for it even if they would've done exactly the same

I don't understand how credit default swaps work. I expect the treasury secretary and the chairman of the federal reserve to know how they work.

u guys lets stop arguing - what we need now are solutions!

biden doesn't have boobies tho

You haven't been squinting hard enough.

you know what kind of boobies i mean, i think. boobies that can guide the country. can joe biden's boobies guide the country