Dawn of the Planet of the Apes: will it be good?

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"and then they crossed Nevada by foot and set up in Salt Lake City"

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 17 July 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link

when are all the monkeys going to start wearing clothes

akm, Monday, 17 July 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link

these things keep me up at night

akm, Monday, 17 July 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link

when are all the monkeys going to start wearing clothes

Ask Chewbacca.

Monkeys seem to do OK in climates both cool and tropical, so unless modesty is a concern they probably don't have to worry too much about cover. I bet given a choice they'd get a trim in the summer, though.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 11:49 (six years ago) link

How is food production going in this post-monkey apocalypse? What is the North American monkey diet? Yes, we have no bananas.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 11:52 (six years ago) link

btw Cornelius would get violent if you called chimps "monkeys"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 11:53 (six years ago) link

(bcz they are not)

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 11:53 (six years ago) link

"Monkeys seem to do OK in climates both cool and tropical, so unless modesty is a concern they probably don't have to worry too much about cover."

yeah I know but Cornelieus and Dr. Zaius wore full on tunics.

akm, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 12:31 (six years ago) link

Affectations, most likely, but I think they mostly wore them to hide the zippers, tbh.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 12:34 (six years ago) link

apes wore clothes in the Boulle book

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 12:38 (six years ago) link

apes wore clothes in the Boulle book

yeah it's the humans who wore no clothes to make clearer the distinction/inversion : civilized/animals (but also lol@"mostly wore them to hide the zippers, tbh.")
this latest movie seems pretty good with WH going full Brando/apocalypse now, apparently.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 12:58 (six years ago) link

and I guess it allowed to throw more gratuitous nudity too !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 12:59 (six years ago) link

ape nudity

akm, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 13:36 (six years ago) link

the more I think about the new movie, the less I like it

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link

So having just seen the trailers, this seems like another one, like "King Kong," jammed full with Vietnam-referencing imagery. Or at least Vietnam movie references. Or maybe just First Blood references.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link

honestly Skull Island handled the Vietnam angle better

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 14:26 (six years ago) link

And yet in Skull Island it was afaict totally pointless.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 14:29 (six years ago) link

ape nudity

ahah, I was thinking about the 68 movie !
somehow that makes me think about things like Disney : why does Donald, for instance, wear a top but not a bottom ? anything else would make more sense (fully dressed, wearing only a bottom or nothing...) !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link

There is a steamroom scene w/ Dr Zaius and the gorilla general in Beneath, the first sequel to the original.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 14:37 (six years ago) link

And yet in Skull Island it was afaict totally pointless.

I disagree! I think "pointless military adventures are bad" worked just fine as a throughline. Hell, the residents of Skull Island were basically commies.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link

meanwhile this movie literally has "Ape-Ocalypse Now" scrawled on a wall

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 14:39 (six years ago) link

In any 2017 movie about voyaging to a distant secret island to capture a giant ape, Vietnam allegories are totally superfluous.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 14:42 (six years ago) link

I'll take that over 100 minutes in Ape Auschwitz.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link

"There is a steamroom scene w/ Dr Zaius and the gorilla general in Beneath, the first sequel to the original."

yes. sadly the conservatism of the time made them edit out the mutual ape massage scene that was in there.

akm, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link

"meanwhile this movie literally has "Ape-Ocalypse Now" scrawled on a wall"

that was so good. obv the references are over the top and over done but it is a movie with sentient monkeys

akm, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link

how subtle do you want it to be

akm, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link

I would watch a "The Doors" movie with apes.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

love me two times baby
pnce cuz i'm an ape

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link

about Jimbo, the ape king.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

The Doors movie could only have been improved by more ape

akm, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

how subtle do you want it to be

I don't need subtle, I just found that the wink-nod stuff and the extreme grimness made for a really odd and kind of offputting tonal mismatch

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 15:05 (six years ago) link

The Doors movie could only have been improved by more ape

honestly I would watch just about anything remade with the humans replaced w/ photorealistic apes. instant improvement

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

i can't wait until we can get rid of SAG completely and make all upcoming movies with CGI ape

akm, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link

don't even need to get rid of the acronym, it can be the Screen Apes Guild

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link

will no one think about the live apes who are losing jobs?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link

why does Donald, for instance, wear a top but not a bottom ? anything else would make more sense (fully dressed, wearing only a bottom or nothing...) !

This is a good joke in Friends: something like, why does Donald wear a top but no bottoms, yet ties a towel around his waist when he gets out of the bath?

nate woolls, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link

Invisible pants

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link

Porky Pig Style

mark s, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link

ahah, topic covered (and very good point about the towel) !

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 10:34 (six years ago) link

I was reading that AV Club thing with David Warner, and they mention his role in Planet of the Apes, and I kept thinking, huh, I don't remember that character at all. Then I realized I had completely forgotten the Tim Burton movie existed.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 July 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link


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