Hip Hop taken to new levels.

1. It's gay.

2. ddrake's point is stupid. (BTW, Genesis ruled, you asshat, and you merely comparing it to 'long instrumental solos' shows your complete fucking ignorance of the band.)

3. James Slone I've known for some time, from the SSMT days, and he could wipe the floor with most all of you intellectually.

What the hell is progressive about it? Now, yes, I'm bearing in mind that you, Geir, have become famous for only thinking music that stays within the box is good, but let me say The Love Below just sucks.

"Hey Ya" was a fun pop tune, I admit, but the guy attempts to croon when he doesn't have the voice to croon, tries to write funk songs which fall flat, and let's not get into the "shit don't stink" song.

Speakerboxx? I'm sorry, Big Boi doesn't click without Andre 3000 rapping alongside him. The album as a whole is pretty decent, but that's it. Outkast's apex album was Aquemini, followed closely by Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik.

The Love Below was formulaic, and honestly, a huge step back from even Stankonia (which I admittedly like a lot). Speakerboxx was an attempt by Andre to branch out, and I can respect his talent, but he failed.

I have a "there but for the grace of god go I" feeling about this thread. Though it could have been a few hundred posts shorter is someone had just sincerely apologized for the Wooster jokes.

And remember, you can find hip-hop (writing) taken to new levels here:
Why do people who hate music write about music?

I also checked out Aesop Rock, which I found rather pleaseant.

this seriously has to be the best and worst thread ever

lol

Boyz II Men (ft. Phil Collins) - Take Me Home

Spittin' Wicked Randomness still goddamn rules

I learned my lesson the hard way (and still have the scars to prove it), which was: DON'T ADMIT TO LIKING PREFUSE 73!

<i>Ned Raggett having thugs! That's crazy! No, no one ganged up on him! ddrake just came and started trouble in our normally pure community!

Christ.

have a good fucking life.</i>

i beieve the reason you haven't found any of this so far is because you were mistakenly looking for rock records.

-- fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, November 17, 2003 3:39 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

GOAT zing? Maybe..

Second to maracas.jpg, maybe

deej vs. ned beef woah

rly

hahahaha beautiful thread.

never ban bo jackson o if he revives threads like this.

haha this is the kind of thread i might have started myself a) if we're talking 2006 model LJ and b) if i didn't know of ethan's prowl

it's nice to know that even deej got into regrettable ilm beefs when he was in college.

in other news, this is a pretty great response to one's first encounter w/ geir.

Dear god.
-- ddrake, Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:48 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

here's the weird thing. I actually appeared in this thread in 04. BETCHA CAN'T GUESS WHO I WAS

and no I wasn't Slone

deej = ddrake?

i was retarded in this thread but it was one of the weirdest blount flipouts ever

This thread has actually prompted me to listen to The Infamous. Aw, there, see ddrake, aren't you happy now? Oh tell me you are happy! I cannot live without your approval!

-- Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, November 16, 2003 11:08 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

lol

victory

yea, FOUR YEARS AGO

Is this thread like one of those contests, where the last one to take his hand off the truck wins $1000 or something? (Only explanation I could come up with why it's still so densely populated.)

-- Keith Harris (kharris1128), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 04:03 (4 years ago) Link

Sometimes I wish Keith had posted on ILX more, even though I know he always had better things to do.

The irony of the whole position you are taking here is it precludes us from any discussion on music...ever. Other than making each other aware of different performers. What is the point in arguing the relative quality of a recording when it is the listener's experience and context that decides whether it's worth hearing anyway?

lololololol @ deej taking the standard college freshman relativist position

What position should he take?

(Real question.)

It's still pretty dodgy though the way otherwise smart posters were compelled by deej-beef to defend point blank some incredibly patronising assumptions in the original post.

"But I've become compelled by the idea of experimental hip hop. I expect that a surge of really experimental rap would cause a backlash worse than the anti-prog backlash of the late seventies, but I really can care less about purity aesthetics. I just want to hear something new or innovative in the genre. I feel the genre is being held back by conservatism within the movement. This can change."

In what universe does any sentence in this paragraph (apart from the first and the last if read in isolation) make sense?

In the universe most of us live in.

o don't start it all up agin

I think some of the problem in the case of the original poster was to already have a mapped out idea of what this new form of "innovative" hip hop would take. Musical progress isn't linear. There's just too many known and unknown variables to synthesize. Its kind of like the Silk Road effect, but only its augmented by todays ultranetworked world.

If anything it's the word "experimental" that conjures up the bad images for me, at least. Ideas, even good creative ones taken from a wide variety of musical styles - but that are poorly digested and badly executed - don't pan usually don't pan out too well for any genre.

"don't usually pan out"

It late, alright. Get out of my marrow!

Lostandfound otm. what have I done? (jumps out window)

Did Dom Passatino really go look up a poster's personal information on the internet, and then come back to the thread with it giggling like a little fucking schoolgirl?

Unbelievable.

-- Broheems (diamond), Monday, 17 November 2003 05:42 (4 years ago) Link

dom googles people. it's fucked up.

omfg i've just read the entire thread...and it's goddamn familiar. most otm post = david a's near the end.