Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

It's 30C outside where I am and I have goosebumps

Full press release

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2017/jodie-whittaker-13-doctor

(That's not her costume, which is obvious but anyway.)

I finally get to know how it feels to have a crush on Dr Who

This thread is now two incarnations old (and ignores the other Capaldi thread), perhaps we should start another? Of course without a title that would be a casting spoiler.

I'm trying to not post in this thread like Julio on Wimbledon but that's not going to work

Who else was in ATB? Clearly that movie was just an audition tape for future franchise fanboy brain melters

I never finished watching The Assets (spoiler: the ladies catch Aldrich Ames) but her American accent was passable as I recall. The wardrobe was hilarious

I think a new thread title that's not a casting spoiler would be a waste of a thread title. We can wait a few more months. A couple of weeks from now this thread will be off SNA anyway (unless we get an epic CF with socks and new trolls and all the trappings)

i actually only know her from ATB, where she was good, and broadchurch, where her character bugged. what else of note should I look for?

Nashwan was so completely OTM 2 days ago he didn't even realize it

Just watched the intro video, let me wipe away my years.

Tears.

oh shit she was in the entire history of you, forgot that. that's the best black mirror episode by far.

Attack the Block: one of the other leads was John Boyega.

...thus, I think, Tombot's note.

All else aside, as with many of the decisions Marvel has made in recent years, I applaud any decision that gives the regressive nerds embolisms.

I took Daily Mail comments from people angry about a possible Female Dr Who and turned them into episode titles for the new series pic.twitter.com/k586EeVpld

— TechnicallyRon (@TechnicallyRon) July 15, 2017

"Nobody wants a Tardis full of bras"

Tardis full of bras for thread title.

Yes, please! ^^^

How is it possible that ppl w/ regressive views like that watch Nu-Who?

I figure it's more likely old men who haven't watched in ages and young men who've never watched it at all being summoned by the bat-signals of the Daily Mail and MRA forums, respectively.

xps BRADIS?

I agree, none of the sad assholes bitching about this actually watch Dr Who

Computer, I need a YouTube of the last four Doctors angrily reading those Daily Mail comments in their native accents

Mostly just Tennant or Capaldi yelling would be fine

ha ha, the idea that anybody could be on the internet for more than ten seconds and not be "spoiled" about the identity of the new doctor is quite amusing

tennant at least is great at reading tweets

on the internet BBC News website for more than ten seconds

Fixed. It's right next to Federer winning Wimbledon (SPOILER)

"Ridiculous, Dr Who a woman, so BBC, left wing feminist nonsense.

Kris Marshall would have been perfect."

This is what I get for thinking "I wonder what the Telegraph comments section thinks of this", in fairness.

kris marshall would have been perfect

for me to poop on

I can't believe the first Huddersfield Town supporting Dr Who would cause so much controversy.

I feel like, even taking into account the Telegraph comments section, there are about 10 people patting themselves on the back for not being angry about this for every person who is actually angry about this (I guess that this may just be in my bubble though)

though this evens it out somewhat

THIS IS REALLY SHIT - IT SUCKS - IT'S STUPID - KILLS THE SHOW. I want nothing more to do with it and I HATE CHRIS CHIBNALL - HE CAN FUCK OFF

— Ian Levine (@IanLevine) July 16, 2017

well it's certainly the quickest and most effective way of getting me on Team Chibnall

The vast majority of people who actually watch the show are not at all angry and are actually excited

People who have logins so they can comment on newspaper websites = <1% of the population imho

Levine also tweeted this, which would make another good episode title

CHRIS CHIBNALL MAKES ME WANNA VOMIT

I have a friend who's thrown out the 'desperate casting for ratings slide' argument. I'm not super attuned to the ratings for who; I'm sure it's not where it was while Smith was there, as that brought in a whole new contingent of fans; but I can't see this casting choice being one that would 'boost ratings'; if they were really concerned about ratings I'd think they would have picked someone safer and less divisive. Anyway, even if it is to boost viewership, who cares

So when do we meet her. September next year?
& wonder if she'll be in a slightly feminised version of the Victorian/Edwardian frock coat etc. I guess costume mock ups will be a while yet?

Christmas Day

Tardis full of bras HOORAY :D

Is Christmas day a glimpse or a full introduction?
JUst trying to remember from previous regenerations if you get any sight of what they will play the character loike before the first full adventure. Or just see the new actor in the old actor's last costume.

new actor in old costume

except for Tennant, his introductory episode was the Christmas episode

Did Ecclestone bow out very rapidly without filming beyond the end of the season. I know he wasn't happy with what the then current regime was doing with the legacy or marketing or something.
BUt would guess that he was a rare occurrence. Sylvester McCoy even came back to film his regeneration in the film. THough it was him not Colin Baker who did the regeneration into him wasn't it?

well it's certainly the quickest and most effective way of getting me on Team Chibnall
― The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Sunday, July 16, 2017 6:44 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol and OTM

Just for fun (*) I'm going to remove this bookmark and unsubscribe from a few news feeds and just see whether there's any way I can stay unspoiled on this until Christmas.
(*) It won't be fun, it'll be annoying.
― JimD, Saturday, July 15, 2017 10:14 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wanted to try this too, then realised I'd rather self-spoil than have it ruined by someone's passing Metro newspaper on the tube. I'd say, despite the very wise and welcome choice not to have another male doctor, this is kind of a tepid result. But, you know, WAIT AND SEE. Iirc Whitaker had good comic timing in that dreadful This Life sequel a while back.

This phrase from the BBC press release is very fuck off:

Piers Wenger, Controller BBC Drama, says : "Jodie is not just a talented actor but she has a bold and brilliant vision for her Doctor. She aced it in her audition both technically and with the powerful female life force she brings to the role.

(The "female life force" bit - sweet ugh.)

was thinking back to A L Kennedy's argument from a couple of years ago about why the part shouldn't be played by a woman

Speaking at the Edinburgh international book festival, Kennedy said: “As a heterosexual woman, I have no interest in a female Doctor. He’s kind of got a guy vibe, the Doctor. A hopeless, undomestic, dozy, dreamy guy-type of eccentricity. It’s not a girl-type of eccentricity. I’d be surprised if he changed gender.”

Instead, she made a plea for the creation of characters who were “iconic and marvellous for women. Let’s have faith that you can do that. Make the companions ballsy and wonderful. Let’s make wonderful parts that were designed for women.”

She conceded that it was terrible that there weren’t enough good parts for women. “But I never, as a female, thought I was being robbed because the Doctor’s a bloke.”

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/aug/19/doctor-who-should-never-be-played-by-a-woman-says-novelist-al-kennedy

I don't really agree though, I think you can have a female character with a hopeless, undomestic, dozy, dreamy eccentricity, though it's hard to think of many examples, and I think they would generally be perceived as "mannish". The doctor tends to played as affable but also kind of emotionally distant, I can't think of many young female heroes you can say this of? I feel like when ppl imagined a female Dr Who it was generally as batty old lady type

That's an unusually lazy bit of gender-typing for Kennedy, I think.

Just noticed there is a bit of a Tilda-esque alien bouff to Whittaker's hair.

For those wondering about what the rumourmill had been saying, the leading contender in the odds in previous months was Kris Marshall. I hadn't seen anything he'd done, but he looked like an ooglier Davison in photos. There was also a letter a BBC drone sent to a sexist mother that promised her the next Doctor wouldn't be a woman.