Wasn't he Scottish?
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
Scots-Canadian, to be accurate.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link
born, raised and lived in canada until he was 30-ish -- pals with the canadian BONAR LAW anyway i was a bit surprised, just bcz his paper was the daily express, which is i believe not currently in this same camp
― mark s, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
Tbf "I read the news today oh boy" sums up p much everything Britain nowadays. Visionaries, them scousers.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
england and english were used interchangeably with britain and british until the second world war. ajp taylor's english history 1914-1945 famously is actually a history of britain.
scottish people were also referred to as scotch up until around the same time
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link
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― soref, Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link
This piece rehashes a lot of the same shit as before although it gives a different spin - which doesn't entirely scan - on why The Guardian are so hostile to Corbyn.
The answer is complicated. Its about territory and identity. As projects, New Labour and The Guardian have a lot in common. Ever since I worked there, The Guardian has been on the move, not just physically but mentally. It moved from Manchester to London. The M25 became the boundaries of its new metropolitan world and it lost interest in Scotland and for much of my time there did not even have a correspondent based there.Then it discovered America and seriously thought it could capture part of Google's digital advertising. The Guardian is like that. It only has two gears - arrogance and blind panic. Hundreds of millions of pounds later, The Guardian found itself stranded off the coast of New Jersey. Now the ship is plodding its way back to Manchester, the pilgrim that never got to the New World.New Labour harboured the same ambitions to leave a constituency behind in search of a new world and never quite made it. Corbyn dispossessed New Labour of its last vestiges of power.New Labour was not merely about policy. It was an attempt to permanently change the landscape of the left, hence its concentration on power and leadership. It had a devastating effect on both the party and its concept of leadership. This was why its only response to Corbyn was to go for the man, obsessing about his lack of qualities as a leader - as if the Iraq War, the Libya intervention and the banking crash were examples of sound leadership.
Then it discovered America and seriously thought it could capture part of Google's digital advertising. The Guardian is like that. It only has two gears - arrogance and blind panic. Hundreds of millions of pounds later, The Guardian found itself stranded off the coast of New Jersey. Now the ship is plodding its way back to Manchester, the pilgrim that never got to the New World.
New Labour harboured the same ambitions to leave a constituency behind in search of a new world and never quite made it. Corbyn dispossessed New Labour of its last vestiges of power.
New Labour was not merely about policy. It was an attempt to permanently change the landscape of the left, hence its concentration on power and leadership. It had a devastating effect on both the party and its concept of leadership. This was why its only response to Corbyn was to go for the man, obsessing about his lack of qualities as a leader - as if the Iraq War, the Libya intervention and the banking crash were examples of sound leadership.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 June 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link
Rumoured to be going tabloid. I really liked the Berliner format, though obv can't remember the last time I bought one. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/06/11/guardian-go-tabloid-abandons-berliner-presses-print-deal-trinity/
― stet, Sunday, 11 June 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link
dude they just bought those presses like 15 years ago!
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 11 June 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
It probably would have been cheaper to set up their own coffee processing plant! I think unlike the Graun, the Berliner format is pretty classy tbh.
― calzino, Sunday, 11 June 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
Berliner format a good answer to an irrelevant question. Does this leave the Telegraph as the last daily broadsheet?
― The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 12 June 2017 09:21 (six years ago) link
there's also the herald up here in scotchland
― alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 June 2017 09:25 (six years ago) link
The contract will also allow the newspaper to scrap or sell its three Berliner presses, which cost £50m in 2005. It spent a further £30m on printworks in London and Manchester.
say what u like about the graun, it's never afraid to just hurl money straight down the shitter
― alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 June 2017 09:26 (six years ago) link
given the presses are bigger than the new format, can't they just be used for the new format? (or is the expense of *running* the presses the reason they are moving on?)
― koogs, Monday, 12 June 2017 09:38 (six years ago) link
i imagine that is a massive part of it. iirc they were hoping that other pubs would go berliner and rent the presses from them, making the whole operation more sustainable but that never happened.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 June 2017 09:44 (six years ago) link
britain has this habit of ploughing massive amounts of money into projects in a spasm of optimism without making allowances for what will happen if they don't get lucky. cf straford "international" train station. cf brexit.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 June 2017 09:46 (six years ago) link
guardian has long had a habit of swinging between absurd over-confident world-striding visionary expansion and compete panic -- it is in a bad way currently financially and seems also to be having trouble stepping away from various recent political commitments that were bad not good
it could really REALLY do with a major pundit sweep-out, obviously -- and could perhaps actually make shift to move towards picking up the potential (quite complex) readership revealed by the emerging realignment? (obviously they have some of them)
― mark s, Monday, 12 June 2017 10:20 (six years ago) link
it is in a bad way currently financially
short of the auto trader sale a while back it's hard to think of a time in the modern era where the graun wasn't explosively haemorrhaging cash tbh
― alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 June 2017 10:25 (six years ago) link
it's wasted several actually p good moves and projects i think -- the money it was losing in the 90s was going towards its transition onto the net, and i think was actually p well spent, potentially a strong investment -- but the next stage of the plan, to become a global rather than a national title≤ has really backfired
― mark s, Monday, 12 June 2017 10:32 (six years ago) link
That Middle East Eye piece begins to make an interesting parallel with the graun and new labour, but then doesn't really go anywhere with it.
― The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 12 June 2017 10:35 (six years ago) link
is that the david hearst piece? i need to reread that (the first time i read it i was mainly being startled that i'd never spotted he signs himself "david hearst" and "david hirst" abt equally often, which is unusual in such a high-profile writer: i shd perhaps focus on less trivial aspects)
― mark s, Monday, 12 June 2017 10:53 (six years ago) link
There's a David Hirst and a David Hearst, no?
― Alba, Monday, 12 June 2017 11:14 (six years ago) link
ok lol yes they are different now that i've found a photo of each of them
but google is disinclined to separate them
― mark s, Monday, 12 June 2017 11:25 (six years ago) link
Is Google worse than it used to be?
― Alba, Monday, 12 June 2017 11:35 (six years ago) link
Is mark s worse than it used to be?
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 12 June 2017 11:39 (six years ago) link
is the 'is the guardian worse than it used to be?' thread worse than it used to be when everyone jumps on the 'is x worse than it used to be?' bandwagon?
― alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 June 2017 11:43 (six years ago) link
Yes
― El Tomboto, Monday, 12 June 2017 12:24 (six years ago) link
i am better than i used to be: be the change i indicate
― mark s, Monday, 12 June 2017 12:27 (six years ago) link
Mirror stocks up on this because they'll likely to pay to use mirror presses, so seems like no they can't continue to use theirs.
Barclays analysts on impact for Trinity Mirror (shares up 2%). pic.twitter.com/Hb20plY5IA— Chris Williams (@cg_williams) June 12, 2017
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 12 June 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link
Today we’re announcing a significant change to the way you experience the Guardian in print: from early 2018 we will move the Guardian and The Observer to tabloid formats. Over the past six months, we’ve been thinking hard about how we can continue to deliver great journalism to readers through our print editions. At the same time, we’ve also been examining every cost across our organisation, as part of a three-year plan to make the Guardian financially sustainable. The introduction of the Berliner format in 2005 was a historic moment for the Guardian, and we won award after award for our world-class design and innovation, including world’s best-designed newspaper twice in three years. It is a beautiful format. We believe there will be a market for quality print journalism for years to come, but declining circulations mean that printing the Berliner is becoming increasingly expensive. Moving to a tabloid format will allow us to be far more flexible in responding to changing print demand. It will allow us to save millions of pounds each year, helping us to become financially sustainable so that we can keep investing in the most important thing: Guardian journalism. This plan is the outcome of careful consideration, reader research and planning. Early research with some of our most loyal readers has been positive. We have spoken to print readers who have told us clearly that it is the great journalism, photography, graphics and design that they value, not the shape and size of the newspaper. We are going to create a tabloid Guardian and a tabloid Observer that are bold, striking and beautiful. Input from our readers, members and subscribers will be crucial.The Guardian has signed a contract with Trinity Mirror, who will take over printing and distribution of our newspapers in the new format. If you are a print subscriber, your subscription service will continue as usual. More people than ever before are reading and supporting the Guardian’s journalism. Today’s announcement further cements our commitment to produce the Guardian and The Observer in print for the foreseeable future – but there’s no doubt that this is a significant moment in our history. The print industry continues to evolve, and we must keep evolving with it. Katharine Viner, editor-in-chief, Guardian News & MediaDavid Pemsel, chief executive, Guardian Media Group
Over the past six months, we’ve been thinking hard about how we can continue to deliver great journalism to readers through our print editions. At the same time, we’ve also been examining every cost across our organisation, as part of a three-year plan to make the Guardian financially sustainable.
The introduction of the Berliner format in 2005 was a historic moment for the Guardian, and we won award after award for our world-class design and innovation, including world’s best-designed newspaper twice in three years. It is a beautiful format.
We believe there will be a market for quality print journalism for years to come, but declining circulations mean that printing the Berliner is becoming increasingly expensive. Moving to a tabloid format will allow us to be far more flexible in responding to changing print demand. It will allow us to save millions of pounds each year, helping us to become financially sustainable so that we can keep investing in the most important thing: Guardian journalism.
This plan is the outcome of careful consideration, reader research and planning. Early research with some of our most loyal readers has been positive. We have spoken to print readers who have told us clearly that it is the great journalism, photography, graphics and design that they value, not the shape and size of the newspaper. We are going to create a tabloid Guardian and a tabloid Observer that are bold, striking and beautiful. Input from our readers, members and subscribers will be crucial.
The Guardian has signed a contract with Trinity Mirror, who will take over printing and distribution of our newspapers in the new format. If you are a print subscriber, your subscription service will continue as usual.
More people than ever before are reading and supporting the Guardian’s journalism. Today’s announcement further cements our commitment to produce the Guardian and The Observer in print for the foreseeable future – but there’s no doubt that this is a significant moment in our history. The print industry continues to evolve, and we must keep evolving with it.
Katharine Viner, editor-in-chief, Guardian News & MediaDavid Pemsel, chief executive, Guardian Media Group
― sktsh, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link
It's a shame, but I never, if ever, buy the print version anymore.
Looking forward to seeing the design changes though.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 10:45 (six years ago) link
https://www.buzzfeed.com/stevenperlberg/how-the-guardian-lost-america
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link
Gibson, now editor-in-chief of BuzzFeed UK, declined to comment for this story
― stet, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link
Covering America for the world, including Americans.
good slogan but could be clarified a little further and more commas would help. how about "A British paper, in America, covering America, for the world, including Americans, and of course British people, welcome to Guardian America - home of the Guardian in the USA."
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link
also available in Australian
― André Ryu (Neil S), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link
Oh, it’s The Guardian. I see. pic.twitter.com/mOfnlEOyAb— SimonNRicketts (@SimonNRicketts) June 21, 2017
Full-page Leader from the Mail railing against the Guardian for being the REAL fascists
― stet, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 23:30 (six years ago) link
Just fucking ridiculous. And I "look forward" to having to hear this regurgitated at the next family sunday lunch.
― Shanty Brunch (stevie), Thursday, 22 June 2017 09:07 (six years ago) link
I just hope this is the death throes of a malignant force in UK culture realising its days are sorely numbered.
― Shanty Brunch (stevie), Thursday, 22 June 2017 09:08 (six years ago) link
I know you are but what am I.
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 22 June 2017 09:14 (six years ago) link
that cartoon sounds terrible, poor form to get all butthurt over it
― pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 June 2017 09:16 (six years ago) link
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― Shanty Brunch (stevie), Thursday, 22 June 2017 09:19 (six years ago) link
The Mail going merrily down the alt-right route I see.
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 09:23 (six years ago) link
The Daily Mail or the Mail Online?
― Alba, Thursday, 22 June 2017 09:37 (six years ago) link
"The Mail Online - a totally separate entity that has its own publisher" pic.twitter.com/GzHFWfLqj4— Dean Burnett (@garwboy) June 22, 2017
― André Ryu (Neil S), Thursday, 22 June 2017 09:44 (six years ago) link
deano rehabilitated in nakhers' absence
― imago, Thursday, 22 June 2017 11:04 (six years ago) link
Street artist Sabo shot to fame during the 2016 US election with his politically incorrect approach.
Nope, never heard of him until this article.
― nashwan, Thursday, 22 June 2017 13:09 (six years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/jun/22/a-hot-summer-night-in-london-photo-essay
nice photos but jesus christ @ this trite piece and its unearned sentimentality.
i just ranted about it on twitter, that's my mental exercise for the evening:
Pretty much all the worst sins of writing are in this piece: "A hot summer night in London – photo essay" https://t.co/jGiPxzkPPP— Ronan Fitzgerald (@rmkf) June 22, 2017
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link
The photos are worth the while tbh. But the writing is dire, I agree.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link
should have just gone with photos, their quality exposes the poor writing even further.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
Absolutely. They do not need dim 'bylines' by an overly enthusiastic writer thinking he/she's D.H. Lawrence.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link