OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

yes, it is possible for a piece of written work to draw broadly from widely-accepted theory and still make its points lazily. this pretty much describes any marcotte essay i've ever read (and i've hate-read a lot of them)

Exactly. Marcotte is a bad and lazy thinker no matter what subject she's attempting to tackle.

Like, for starters, Highway 61 Revisited released in 1965 and the entire rock-critical discourse of Marcus et al; or that the whole whimsical psychedelia thing came up in a scene dominated by women like Grace Slick and Janis Joplin; or that house music isn't "girlish," it was made for and by gay black men; and that women are actually the thought leaders in "pretentious" art and avant-garde music right now and reducing women listeners to yepper yepper carly rae jepper stereotypes is ugly

Oh no, am i doing a sexism? actually actually not all men

the whole article is dumb. i don't care who wrote it. and this is the dumbest: "Disco is classic girl music — or, more accurately, music for girls and gay men."

people who say or write stuff like that shouldn't be taken seriously. probably a trump voter.

The soundtracks to both “Guardians of the Galaxy” movies, made up of pop classics by artists like Fleetwood Mac and the Jackson 5, are darlings not just of audiences but critics as well.

bernie would have beatles 1

amanda marcotte writes troll thinkpieces for salon, she once criticized bernie sanders for supporting the sandinistas over the contras and it was p clear from the context she had just found out about both of those things

I wasn't aware of Rob Sheffield's book, but judging from the excerpt on Rolling Stone it seems to fit squarely in the books for RS readers who live for lists of greatest rock bands and yet more books and articles about said bands?

AM's piece seems kind of a drive-by challops take, this "what's hot in the news I can have a take on" school of blogging

there's a difference in targeting between writers who can probably describe what hairstyle each of the beatles had at any given time versus a salon blog giving a lukewarm take that's semi-topical

its no big deal that its a dumb article. finding something good to read on the internet is hard enough. finding something good to read about the friggin' beatles? could take you years.

imo just reading wikipedia and then coming up with some ideas is a good way to blog

hoo boy I just read AM's wiki entry. somebody should do her a favor and edit in some good stuff

"women listen to records like THIS" is a generalization that needs to be stated with a lot more care than this piece did.

I'm just personally going to reserve my outrage for things like the 100th "poptimism is bad and ruining music, writing and everything" piece by an established, secure writer than for mostly unremarkable pieces like this

also, calling a feminist writer a Trump voter is pretty ...

that was a joke. i don't know who the writer is. will never read them again if i can help it. i only read stuff like that when people here are talking about it.

re-reading my post I'm probably (unintentionally) guilty of mansplaining...

i just meant that it was dumb like trump. that's all. but perfect for the trump era, i suppose....stereotypes, generalizations, poorly thought out arguments...

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but my takeaway is that 'girls' who don't prefer 'girly' music implicitly suffer from some form of Stockholm syndrome. Totally inoffensive and 'unremarkable.'

iirc amanda marcotte was one of the ppl who thought democrats should root for trump b/c he'd be easier to beat in november

fwiw I loved "Rio" inordinately then, and I love it inordinately now

every day is Rio day

the central thesis of *people ruin everything* is, as always, on the money though.

Amanda Marcotte‏ @AmandaMarcotte Feb 16
The notion that there’s any meaningful difference between Perez and Ellison was created by drama addicts stoking their martyr complexes.

Amanda Marcotte‏ @AmandaMarcotte Feb 16
It's honestly dumber than people who used to make New Order v. Joy Division a thing. THEY ARE THE SAME BAND GET OVER YOURSELVES.

C+ trolling

Amanda Marcotte‏ @AmandaMarcotte Feb 16
It's honestly dumber than people who used to make New Order v. Joy Division a thing. THEY ARE THE SAME BAND GET OVER YOURSELVES.

― salthigh, Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:54 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

true tbh

Curti Bros

xpost

Alfred I'm shocked, SHOCKED

lukewarm takes, delivered regularly, to your door

also, calling a feminist writer a Trump voter is pretty ...

― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:25 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

iirc amanda marcotte was one of the ppl who thought democrats should root for trump b/c he'd be easier to beat in november

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:45 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, yes she was, and then proceeded to blame not campaigning in wisconsin, having the wrong candidate for this time and virtually every other legitimate hilldog campaign problem on bernie bros

i honestly don't know if marcotte is a troll who believes in next to nothing a la amanda palmer or if she actually /is/ as milquetoast a liberal as one could possibly be, but it hardly matters because she sounds like a fucking idiot

why are there so many public trolls named amanda ;_;

take my hand, I'll make you understand

confirmation bias imo

2 is too many

I WANNA DO A LITTLE STRUT
AS YOU WIGGLE YOUR FIRM BUTT

AMANDA

Sorry, wrong thread.

gross

o_O

Little known Beatles tune

i have been harassed in this fashion since the late '80s :-/

You'll hate the Boston thread, then!

if it's full of sexist jokes at the expense of amandas, i already do

not sure in what world responding to someone's comment about jerks sharing their first name being disheartening with actual harassment is a good idea

i don't want to derail this thread but i do wish to express that amanda jokes are gross and not funny like say video gaaaaaaaames jokes

xxpost:

This world, in which the comment was blatantly not aimed at the person whining about harrassment and was merely riffing on a thread which has been on this forum for... ooh, four years now and has offended absolutely nobody. But then, this is ILX where people, bless 'em, always get oversensitive, so... y'know, business as usual!

(If anyone hasn't read that thread, it's basically everyone taking the piss out of the Boston song 'Amanda' ... I appreciate it may not be funny if you're actually called Amanda, but I assume that most people on the planet with that name who recognise the song actually realise the song isn't directly about them.)

things like the 100th "poptimism is bad and ruining music, writing and everything" piece

yeah, everybody knows

get back to fuckin ilb morbsitronics lol isnt there a matt harvey incident to write about

The Marcotte article wasn't that bad.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a5/f5/21/a5f52196ef344a9bda47c56b17b4e62b.jpg

The Marcotte article wasn't that bad.

― Treeship, Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:38 PM

neither is Sean Spicer imo