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Down on the Upside is notable for being the Soundgarden record that Ben Shepherd had the largest hand in, writing-wise. Thayil contributed 'Never The Machine Forever' (a standout track, IMO) but much less compared to what he'd done before.

What I always liked about this band is that all the band members wrote songs and contributed riffs and ideas, even Matt Cameron who came up with some great stuff.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 25 May 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link

you can really hear cameron's melodic sensibility and odd Soundgarden-ish chord changes in his songs for Pearl Jam

pickety third (stevie), Thursday, 25 May 2017 23:09 (six years ago) link

Cameron has "Mailman", "Fresh Tendrils", "Applebite" and "Room a Thousand Years Wide" to his credit, so fair fennel seeds to him. And your comments have aroused in me something I'd have never expected: interest in 00s PJ.

Freedom, Friday, 26 May 2017 07:38 (six years ago) link

His stuff on Binaural is partic strong

pickety third (stevie), Friday, 26 May 2017 09:36 (six years ago) link

"Green Disease" off the mostly ignorable Riot Act is great

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 26 May 2017 11:21 (six years ago) link

I didn't realize 'Room a Thousand Years Wide' was Cameron... it's about my favorite Soundgarden song most days.

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 26 May 2017 14:39 (six years ago) link

It's a Thayil lyric, but Cameron wrote the music.

Freedom, Friday, 26 May 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link

They should have done more songs with sax on them.

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 26 May 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link

or songs about improbably large rooms

BalĂ°y Daudrs (contenderizer), Friday, 26 May 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link

goddamn what a good song

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 26 May 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link

I saw some pics from the memorial & fell apart again. But it did lead me to find a full recording of his Albert Hall show from last year. He sounds so fucking good

https://youtu.be/z6qUbq6JzFo

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 May 2017 06:14 (six years ago) link

TOMORROW BEGIIIIINS

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 May 2017 11:32 (six years ago) link

NORAH JONES - BLACK HOLE SUN tribute cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbQ08Ixczvo

dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 27 May 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link

Hilarious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayosR-SJMqw

Freedom, Saturday, 27 May 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link

HI DERE

Lmao Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 May 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

xp "Get Right" sounds like a Soundgarden song.

billstevejim, Sunday, 28 May 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

whoa, this exists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY6cyaUzuU0

billstevejim, Sunday, 28 May 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

that clip Freedom posted is hysterically funny imo, well worth watching

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 28 May 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

lost me at spoonman

rip van wanko, Sunday, 28 May 2017 23:46 (six years ago) link

Still cannot really believe it.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 29 May 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

clip is funny but sad... natasha schneider too...

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 29 May 2017 02:21 (six years ago) link

It's a parody of a classic Sid-era Pink Floyd interview.

Three Word Username, Monday, 29 May 2017 06:29 (six years ago) link

i got a tattoo of the "s" on ULTRAMEGA OK

maura, Monday, 29 May 2017 06:50 (six years ago) link

ULTRAMAURA OK

j., Monday, 29 May 2017 08:22 (six years ago) link

Rock

Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 May 2017 14:24 (six years ago) link

\m/ \m/

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 29 May 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link

I put down some of thoughts re Chris Cornell & Seattle bands & my teenage life here, if anyone wants to read

http://tourdefrump.blogspot.com/2017/05/its-just-end-of-world-chris-cornell-and.html?m=1

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 29 May 2017 23:30 (six years ago) link

Wonderful work. :-)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 May 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link

I'm always struck by how few people talk about the Screaming Trees. Lanegan, yeah, but not the band. "Sweet Oblivion" is a great album.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 June 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link

Ha, I've been thinking about them randomly for the past couple of weeks. (In part due to the great new Lanegan album, admittedly.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 June 2017 23:42 (six years ago) link

Sweet Oblivion and Dust are masterpieces, and a lot of their SST output is brilliant too.

Who's puttin' sponge in the zings I once zung (stevie), Friday, 9 June 2017 12:45 (six years ago) link

yeah, it was like there wasn't enough room in the wider world for one more Seattle grunge band

President Keyes, Friday, 9 June 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link

Screaming Trees have always been a favorite- Cornell co-produced and did backing vocals on Uncle Anaesthesia.

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 9 June 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

'Overfloater' is good. I don't think I've ever made it this far into DOtU before.

chap, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link

i ordered a CD (the old pre-remastered version of Badmotorfinger -- which I think actually sounds better a/b-ing my itunes rip vs. the spotify version of the deluxe remaster) right after his death off Amazon (it was on sale one day for $4)

it's really been rewarding listening to this band with fresh ears, I hadn't actively listened to Soundgarden (with the exception of checking out King Animal a couple times) in so many years, so blown away but how GOOD they were...a lot of this stuff I listened to on the car radio or cassette player or a cheapo boombox in someone's apartment or dorm, now listening on good headphones, the rhythm section is such so top notch and Kim was heads above any other guitarist of this era, in terms of having chops but not being a wanker and also using a lot of weird tunings and dissonance and odd time signature riffs that are somehow as infectious as 70s rock

and Cornell...man just a real rock singer that can fucking go out there and GET IT IN like a 70s dude

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link

yep

Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:34 (six years ago) link

yeah, and even a lot of the popular retro 70s-styled rock acts that plopped out after the turn of the century never had guys who could wail vocally, they were almost always working with a limited toolbox.

the weird tunings really opened up so many sonic possibilities. when I was learning guitar, Soundgarden were some of the earliest riffs I learned, and I remember learning "Mailman" and "4th of July" and how fun those were to play due to the really weird tunings and unusual finger positioning. always purposeful, like Mailman sounds so fat because the tuning has the A and D strings detuned and set to the same note so it's essentially fattening the high note of the octave, while the E string is detuned and serves as the low octave note. and the tuning allows you to have a Drop D type setup, fingerwise (only with a lower tuning and fatter sound).

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link

yeah i didn't even know about something as routine as drop D until I learned "Outshined"

Badmotorfingers is also kind of more...psychedelic than I thought of them, like I dunno they are traditionally what I think of as a psych band but there's a sorta LSD vibe that hangs over it

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link

They are def psychedelic. I remember the first things I read about them in the Melody Maker circa 91 referred to Thayil's "heavy karmic guitar".

Shanty Brunch (stevie), Thursday, 29 June 2017 10:32 (six years ago) link

I said something about this way up thread, but they've always reminded me of a very heavy version of early Traffic - the shifting overcast-sky textures of the arrangements, riffs that are complex but not wanky, Cornell's pleading hooks.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Thursday, 29 June 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link

God yeah. They would have smashed Paper Sun.

Shanty Brunch (stevie), Thursday, 29 June 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

"Mind Riot" kinda felt like a precursor to some of the more atmospheric stuff they did on later albums

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 June 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

That Vedder video making the rounds is cathartic and sad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2GcJ32m13Y

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 July 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

they've always reminded me of a very heavy version of early Traffic

for your consideration, this challop (?) i found on the interweb:

'SG was always more Heart than Sabbath'

j., Friday, 24 November 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY5tDB9mp3c
what a voice

niels, Friday, 27 April 2018 09:42 (five years ago) link

OMG

Lou Grant, the Iranian cinema of late '70s TV (stevie), Friday, 27 April 2018 09:54 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

heavy as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkPDK0m8Ir4

corrs unplugged, Monday, 29 July 2019 11:03 (four years ago) link


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