Grateful Dead live, Dick's Picks etc - S&D

hashtag pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

looking forward to digging in. not super versed on pre-1969 dead, cream puff war mentioned here is sounding really good

That Rare Cuts and Oddities I got into upthread has some intriguing (and fun) early stuff.

Some interesting choices in the pfork thing. Also, surprised to learn James McNew is a Deadhead...was it obvious and I just missed it?

yeah, he's been into it for a little while -- there's a pretty amazing tape of him and bill frisell doing Dark Star > Comes A Time from a couple years back

here it is: https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/99485861912/bill-frisell-james-mcnew-james-woodring-an

Well dang---Long Strange Trip is one night only----this Thursday, during the working week---most everywhere, except L.A. and Tri-State area Heads can also pick up tickets for the limited theatrical run, Thursday, May 25- Thursday, June 1st.. Complete list of theaters nationwide and link for tickets here:
http://view.em-dead.net/?qs=b0a1eb0ca5da8e29dc2dea204b91247c016af571c527bfb9abb5fdcabcf158a56f06e0412999e297bbce40a306e7dffa58661dffb9f0b1c09a72d3513161b029

Wow, cool! Thanks for posting that!

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Yeah, thanks! Also, that reminded me to check for this (Ornette w GD---he hasn't started playing yet, but so far so good) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRAlUJPv9io
And I guess this is the whole show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVPlVdH2R6k

Link to "Dark Star" on Long Strange Trip soundtrack, says the Amazon-exclusive version has 80 minutes more than other (incl. 20 min. "Eyes of the World"), and other stuff:

http://view.em-dead.net/?qs=10f839664e1d947b2f51799f5412bfd6ed4f7ca9184541f79bb0ee3e594492abf4298e5c6f8d8cb2b5e1ab5168059cb237e5e1aadc152d6566b3fd31a3bd59a8

Amazon-exclusive version of the soundtrack, that is.

the movie was amazing, i don't remember if i posted about it, but holy shit it's a masterpiece. easily the best music documentary i've ever seen. the quote that stuck with was Jerry responding to a journalist asking about Deadheads taping shows: "It's fine with me if people can find some use in music that's already happened."

Should be up on Prime vid tomorrow, stoked

What's a good entry point for the Brent era--specifically, highlighting what he brought to the band, rather than just how the Dead were in general during that time? I've never listened past the 1970s, since '80s Dead seemed to the genesis of many stereotypes that put me off from getting into them for years: the parking lot scene, bro-ish jam band fans, etc. Not to mention the general track of record of '60s artists in '80s.

Still, the documentary seemed to stress Brent was a godsend for the band, and I know a few heads who really dig that period, so figured I'd dip the toe in to see what I'm missing.

I got to that part in the doc and thought, hm, I should give the Brent era a chance. Then I heard him sing.

I listened to Go To Nassau from 1980 recently and was surprised at how strong it was -- Garcia sounds great at least.

Spring 1990 (the last tour with Brent), is considered by some to be the best point of that version of the band. There was a full box set out a year or two ago, but the 'Dozin' at the Knick' 3cd set is also pretty hot. I love Brent's singing.

"Dozin'" seconded. My gateway to what limited Dead fandom I possess.

Thanks, will check those out!

I listened to Go To Nassau from 1980 recently and was surprised at how strong it was -- Garcia sounds great at least.

Oh yeah. This is a go-to "show" when I want to hear early 80s Dead. The first set is remarkably strong and their take on Jack Straw here is probably my favourite ever. Love the energy as they return to the final verse.

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I'm (re)discovering "High Time" today via Go To Nassau, and then a few different versions on Archive. Haven't owned a copy of Workingman's Dead since high school, and they didn't play the song all that often past 1970, so I'd kinda forgotten how good it is.

I've been wondering - are there any "standard" dead songs, like ones they've played more than 10 times or so, where sometimes Jerry will sing, sometimes Bob will sing? I haven't listened to nearly enough shows to have any examples of this.

I never thought too hard about the "bob songs" vs. "jerry songs" thing until I watched the recent documentary and it mentioned the spinners who would sit down for Bob songs.

i don't think so -- only thing i can think of is "when i paint my masterpiece" which garcia sang with the JGB in the 70s but Weir sang with the Dead in the 80s. there are random exceptions -- weir initially sang "dire wolf" and garcia didn't chime in on "jack straw" at first.

Hah hah, did not realize I had something in common with the spinners.

Thought I'd pass this on, really enjoyable and led me to some great AUDs which ordinarily I wouldn't have sought out

Brent sang some soaring harmonies during the chorus of Touch of Grey in the early 80s (thinking specifically of Merriweather 6/21/83, he's pretty high in the mix). Such a drag they cut his harmonies on the studio version until the very last refrain, and even then it's absurdly low in the mix.

dude sounds like grover

lol true

1:08:27 tho... his singing is amazing, fits the songs perfectly, not Grovery at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5XEHvJO9-A

discovered the bird song from 'ladies and gentlemen...' gentle and gorgeous

deep into the dead right now. one of those periods when they about 90% of what i'm listening to. goddamn i love the internet archive

past few nights i've been making art and listening to different versions of "black peter" over and over. this one from 1970-05-15 is killer https://archive.org/details/gd70-05-15.early-late.sbd.97.sbeok.shnf/gd70-5-15D3T01.shn

been really enjoying late 73 shows lately. find it hard to get into pre-71 stuff outside of 'live/dead' tbh. and can't get into black peter! it's so lugubrious

oh man it is possibly my favorite dead tune or at least rotates that spot w/ a couple of other tunes

i'll give it a shot once i wrap up my 11/11/73 listening :)

i do enjoy the studio version

fwiw, someone asked Geologist from Animal Collective at the Sung Tongs show in NYC recently what his favorite Dead show was, he said October 12, 1968 - Avalon Ballroom - San Francisco, CA

^ the second chunk of cryptical envelopment here rips, thanks!

so many 73 sugarees I am digging

i love this band so much. they are getting me through the winter man

live stuff finally clicked for me in the last few months after being a longtime workingmans/beauty fan and it's been an amazing ride, so much music to discover and enough variations to keep me happy for life i feel...

however, try as i might, i just can't get into dark star, can't even get my head around it. it's not the length- i can listen to a 30 minute love light or morning dew or 30 minutes of the same dancehall riddim or minimalist composition no problem but ds i just get lost and have nothing to grab onto, just sounds like a bunch of noodling to me.

i really WANT to like it. have mostly listened to 1969-70 versions, is there a different era of stars i might dig more?

68-69 are my favorite dark stars. iirc a lot of folks swear by 72-73

this one has some nice panache, last one before their hiatus and it shows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDXE2gGlqK0

i have never gotten behind the '69 dark stars. the stuff i first got into are the 1972s, which sound like shitty "live/evil" (that's a compliment). since then i've gotten into some of the better 1970s.

have you tried 1970-11-05? that's an interesting one for me because it's not very exploratory at all, it's kind of like a recap of everything they'd accomplished by jamming the song up to that point.

I love '69 Dark Stars personally - I learned to love them listening while driving, which I recommend if it's an option. I do feel like they're a good example of how a recording can't replace the actual experience of a show though.

Oh yeah...think it might be tyme to repost "Grayfolded," a trip through many Dark Stars---a few notes of this one, more of that---full album here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl0-f1Vt6aE

Got tix the other day to see Dead and Co. this summer with my pops. I've never seen any incarnation of the band in concert but I've heard good things about this group. Consider myself a very mild fan up until now but I'm starting to play catch-up and I'll admit it's pretty addictive to stalk the Dead through different eras and different versions of songs. Once you get in their headspace it's very easy to not want to listen to anything else. case in point I feel pretty guilty at how much Dead I ended up listening to last night and this morning instead of The Fall.

there's a fantastic app called 'relisten' which lets you store archive shows offline... it's dangerous

triggering word there----evol j, you know about this right?
https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead

yes i do, i'll probably get there eventually though i'm content with what's on spotify for now.

john perry barlow died?