They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

i hope it was the snapchat dog filter

for some reason the alien cam is the part of the movie I'm trying the hardest to forget

I just kept wondering: why?

I mean obviously it can't be ALL of the engineers because the xenomorph still has to burst out of one of them on the derelict

Gotta say if David wants to lure people to a spooky planet full of blackened corpses and endless storms, he probably could do better than John Denver. Surely Shaw said or did SOMETHING else more like a message back to Earth? Or David could just stand in front of a camera saying, "this is David, last survivor of the Prometheus, if anyone is out there I have critical information and samples to bring back to Weyland headquarters" etc. In general his plan, such as it is, seems badly worked out - what if everybody got killed by the black spores or the marshmallow Peep aliens before he could link up with them? Why fake a crash-landed ship and then keep himself so far away? Or did Shaw crash the ship to strand David after realizing what he'd done? I guess he was assuming any visitors would make a beeline for the huge mysterious city, but when the ship of fools fails to even notice it he sighs, gathers his Obi-Wan Kenobi spooky cloak and noisemakers and starts hiking?

Really wonder what this movie would play like to anyone who didn't see Prometheus. Or who hasn't seen an Alien movie for that matter, since if it weren't Scott directing I think it would be much more apparent that this is essentially a generic 2010s Hollywood franchise reboot, just with better visuals than most. Might as well have been marketed as "Alien (2017)."

Or "The Secret Of The Story Of The Stranger" which seems like a more accurate description (thanks, neural network thread)

who has read all the comics? do any of them take the story in the correct direction (ie one i wd like) (bearing in mind i like alien3 and 4)

Alien: The Illustrated Story (1979) not part of Dark Horse's Aliens series
Aliens (Series 1) (July 1988-July 1989) aka Aliens: Book I, aka Aliens: Outbreak
Aliens: Theory of Alien Propagation (Nov. 1988)
Aliens (Series 2) (Aug. 1989-May 1990) aka Aliens: Book II, aka Aliens: Nightmare Asylum
Aliens: Earth War (June-Oct. 1990) aka Aliens: Female War
Aliens: Advent/Terminus (July-Aug. 1990)
Aliens: Countdown (Sept. 1990-Dec. 1991)
Aliens: Reapers (April 1991)
Aliens: The Alien (Nov. 1991)
Aliens: Genocide (Nov. 1991-February 1992)
Aliens: Hive (February-May 1992)
Aliens: Tribes (April 1992)
Dark Horse Presents: Aliens Platinum Edition (April 1992)
Aliens: Newt's Tale (June-July 1992)
Alien³ (June-July 1992)
Aliens: Renegade (Aug.-Sept. 1992) aka "Renegade"
Aliens: Horror Show (Oct.-Dec. 1992)
Aliens: Colonial Marines (Jan. 1993-July 1994)
Aliens: Countdown (March-April 1993) UK mini-comic reprint
Aliens: Rogue (April-July 1993)
Aliens: Sacrifice (May 1993)
Aliens: Taste (July 1993)
Aliens: Crusade (July 1993-March 1994) incomplete
Aliens: Backsplash (Aug.-Sept. 1993)
Aliens: Labyrinth (Sept. 1993-Jan. 1994)
Aliens: Salvation (Nov. 1993)
Aliens: Cargo (Nov.-Dec. 1993)
Aliens: Alien (Jan.-Feb. 1994)
Aliens: Music of the Spears (Jan.-April 1994)
Aliens: Matrix (May 1994) never released
Aliens: Stronghold (May-Sept. 1994)
Aliens: Mondo Pest (June-Aug. 1994) original serialization
Aliens: Earth Angel (Aug. 1994)
Aliens: Berserker (Jan.-April 1995) aka Aliens: Frenzy
Aliens: Mondo Pest (April 1995) collected version
Aliens: Incubation (Sept.-Oct. 1995)
Aliens: Mondo Heat (Feb. 1996)
Aliens: Lucky (Sept. 1996)
Aliens: Lovesick (Dec. 1996)
Aliens: Headhunters (Jan. 1997)
Aliens: Pig (March 1997)
Aliens: Border Lines (May 1997)
Aliens: Special (June 1997)
Aliens: 45 Seconds
Aliens: Elder Gods
Aliens: Havoc (June-July 1997)
Aliens: Purge (Aug. 1997)
Aliens: Alchemy (Sept.-Dec. 1997)
Alien Resurrection (Oct.-Nov. 1997)
Aliens: Kidnapped (Dec. 1997-Feb. 1998)
Aliens: Tourist Season (Feb. 1998)
Aliens: Survival (Feb.-April 1998)
Aliens: Glass Corridor (June 1998)
Aliens: Stalker (June 1998)
Aliens: Wraith (July 1998)
Aliens: Apocalypse - The Destroying Angels (Jan.-May 1999)
Aliens: Once in a Lifetime (Feb. 1999)
Aliens: Xenogenesis (Aug.-Nov. 1999)
Aliens: (Series 3) - More Than Human (May-Dec. 2009)
Aliens: Fast Track to Heaven (Aug. 2010)
Aliens: Inhuman Condition (Apr. 2013)
Alien: Fire and Stone (2014)

best titles:
Aliens: The Alien
Aliens: Alien
Aliens: Mondo Pest
Aliens: Mondo Heat
Aliens: Lovesick
Aliens: Pig

From aliens:stronghold
http://www.idoc.co/files/4ba77aecdfbb7c4583-66.jpg

disappointed the extensible inner mandibles aren't used as a cigar cutter tbh

pete baran formerly of this board is reliably enraged that *all* monsters since alien have extensible inner mandibles now (most egregiously the sea serpent in voyage of the dawn treader)

Stephen R Bissette wrote a novelette called Aliens: Tribes, which won a Stoker award. Seems to be the only text fiction he's ever written.

There's probably lots of novels too.

there are a handful of good comics, but I'll be damned if I remember any of the series/arc titles

i remember kinda enjoying earth war (which extends the story of ripley, newt and hicks iirc) when I read it like 20 years ago but i'd def be hesitant to recommend it now

iirc they retconned it after the next movie came out and changed the character names in reprintings

I own a single Dark Horse Aliens novel, simply because it features "Reapers". This was a short story where Simon Bisley drew the art and it's fantastic.

Other stories include:
"Theory of Alien Propogation"
"Advent"
"Terminus"
"The Alien"

He also did the cover for this one,
http://www.simonbisleyart.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/dsc_0426.jpg

iirc they retconned it after the next movie came out and changed the character names in reprintings

oh yeah that's right

it helped that the artist couldn't draw recognisable versions of the characters so new readers likely wouldn't notice

the simon bisley pic is very judge death

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?1277

The books, including Jeff Vandermeer, Robert Sheckley and John Shirley.

Sheckley!

doctor casino you are otm but i watched this tonight and...... kinda loved it? that said i was rooting for the aliens the whole time so that might have changed my evaluation of things. no i'm exaggerating i did want daniels and tennessee (where's "jack"?) to survive. kinda. but oh god it was sweet to see the official worst captain ever get lured over to that alien egg. he was the WORST. i was shocked by the selfishness of the crew doctor, dilfer or whatever she was called. she just ran around wildly with tainted blood all over her. no thought for quarantining herself (even tennessee knows there's protocols for that). when she came back into the med bay with a gun and immediately slipped on the blood i laughed out loud in the theatre, what a moment. like man, you guys do not stand a CHANCE.

all the stuff about "i gotta go shower" or "i gotta take a leak" - which comprises the bulk of a lot of people's complaints that i've read - maybe it's just me but i eat that stuff up. it's a genre staple. i know what's coming and it's delicious. like watching the letters of the title of the movie slowly get constructed at the beginning of the movie. you know what it's going to spell but it's cool watching it come in anyway. (though in this one it all comes in much too quickly. in the orig. those titles come in agonizingly, achingly, decadently slow)

yes agree it was insane that they didn't even bother writing a 20-second scene to explain why they weren't taking precautions against contamination. just say the suits caught fire in the solar flare. anything would do! so weird!

i guess there was a little invisible ledge under the airlock door that daniels hopped onto, at the end? i guess?? pretty lame. but god i loved danny mcbride then. the big lunk.

parts of this felt very KONG.

dr c i didn't understand this: "weird that he doesn't just take his space jockey spaceship to earth or something, but anyway." what ship is that? the crashed, mossy one?

oh also i loved the little white fuckerhead aliens! jesus pete! those were proper aliens, fast as fuck, scarcely even seeable, just a mad buzzsaw of teeth and limbs and pure hate.

well, david pilots the space jockey ship to Planet Old-Timey Space Jockeys and kills them all. at that point he has an evil spaceship, the black goo, access to all of the space jockeys' advanced sixth-century technology, and shaw as a captive test subject in hypersleep. why's he crash the ship on a mountain? just in the hopes that someday a beacon of shaw singing john denver will lure somebody to the crash site and it'll look more realistic? why not just hit the gas and go looking for victims for his insane experiments, if he wants to destroy all humans and also destroy all space jockeys for whatever reason that we aren't told? go looking for colonist ships in hypersleep even. or was he really planning on staying on his creepy basement planet forever, happily tinkering on model ships and facehuggers, and it's only after these morons show up that he's like "hey, wait, this gives me an idea"?

i like genre staples, i just want to find them in good genre movies. with a cast half this size, that i related to as people, where you had any time given over to building up suspense and audience identification, i might have been freaked out and heart racing in the theater, not wanting to see them face whatever horrible thing lies around the creepy corner. but it just blitzed through everything. the titles coming onto screen too fast is basically the movie in microcosm imho. but glad you had more fun with it!

even his cover story to walter is pretty stupid (unless it's a more intelligently-written bit, where he's ashamed of what he did and wants walter to like him and is putting off telling him the truth until later) - - - why even admit the suspicious coincidence of their ship arriving and releasing the black goo? you'd think he'd be like "yes this planet is truly mysterious, we arrived to find everybody dead, the best i can tell is that they developed this deadly pathogen and then accidentally released it, shaw had only begun to plumb its riddles when she tragically passed away. please pay no attention to her horrible preserved corpse over there in the corner." but OTOH the idea that david doesn't really "get" people, for all his love of lawrence of arabia (or am i mixing prometheus up with wall-e?), is actually an interesting one that you'd hope more could have been done with.

I appreciated the lack of explanation for why the ship was crashed! like idk I hope Ridley doesn't make another movie to explain why he couldn't find a spot to properly land it

i'm fine with every single thing not being spelled out, it's just when the actual things we're shown, and the character's motivations, don't make any internal sense it just seems like they're making shit up and throwing it into the movie. idk i should stop thinking about this movie but man it was real dumb.

did u see the part where an alien burst through a guy's back, that was hardcore

With the mystifying Idris Elba onsessed with Stephen Stills in Prometheus, and John fucking Denver in this one, obviously in the Aliens universe/Ridley Scott's head nobody has written a song since 1980.

Is the escape from the lab in Alien: Resurrection the high point of the idea that Aliens actually think and co-operate?

Ripley: They cut the power.
Private Hudson: What do you mean *they* cut the power? How could they cut the power, man? They're animals!

nobody has written a song since 1980

Ridley is Geir

SPOILERS

Saw this brought up elsewhere so I can't take credit, but why the hell did David create a fake headstone for Shaw? He had no expectation that anyone was ever going to come along that he would either need to show it to or otherwise explain.

he's an insane robot?

Neural networks will produce some bizarre outputs.

idk, her body with a huge gaping hole in the torso /could/ be under there

I couldn't figure out if what others found was actually a preserved her or a sculpture

i wanted to see more of his drawings. basically everything i wanted to see more of in this movie last about a minute onscreen. i even wanted to see more of the terraforming room on the ship. or more of the ship.

The stone city. Wanted to see more of that.

so I shouldn't watch this huh

do you want to see Fassbender smooch himself

I want to watch Fassbender smooch me

“I’ll do the fingering.”

imo they established via Walter that the David android models were pretty much discontinued and boxed up on earth, but didn't have enough of Walter reacting to how fucked up David was

Holy shit there is so little in theaters right now that this is the only thing of interest, despite its presumptive shitness.

David's erotic will to power is on of the main reasons to watch this film

guys should i get baked and go to see this tomorrow, y/n

AMC here was showing Smokey and the Bandit on several screens for some reason, I really wish I'd gone to see that instead. I guess Pirates of the Caribbean Five could be distracting or something although personally you'd have to pay me money to go back to that series after 2 and 3. Also, if Colossal is playing in your town, I finally did see that and it's good! Flawed but good... interesting, thought-provoking, got under my skin. Content warning for survivors of abusive relationships and alcoholism, though.

3 is the best potc: 1, 2 and 4 are weak

o wait colossal is playing here tomorrow - maybe i should use it as a palate-cleanser after this

I've already seen GotG, and there's like nothing else. Tons of shit. And most of the movies opening this weekend look like shit, too.

ah shit, I missed Colossal

um, hello, a little film called Baywatch...

Oh shit, that's by the Timecrimes guy!?

Would watch Timecrimes guy direct Baywatch.