Classic meet cute
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/aliens/images/9/94/Alien_facehugger.jpg
― jmm, Monday, 22 May 2017 13:55 (six years ago) link
It is a romcom! (And a musical if you count McBride singing along to hologram Noomi)
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 22 May 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link
classic cute meat
http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/33/photos/342000/alien-egg-371342.jpg
― 🎵 it's grey pubic now, stoner blue 🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 May 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link
Michael Bay could do wonders for this franchise
― El Tomboto, Monday, 22 May 2017 14:12 (six years ago) link
let's just go full aliens vs tranformers then nuke both franchises from orbit
― 🎵 it's grey pubic now, stoner blue 🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 May 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link
actually a hybrid alien/transformer would be the freshest idea either series has seen in a long, long time
― 🎵 it's grey pubic now, stoner blue 🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 May 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link
way xp to DC:
Shaw singing John Denver songs wasn't an intentional message, it was either the ship's hologram replay just fucking up post-crash or some sort of lure set by David. The "message" was just footage of her singing to herself piloting the ship.
― mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link
giant ancient city
hey, for all we know, the giant public amphitheater thing never went out of style in engineer architecture and the city was built eleven years ago
― mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link
that probably goes on the list of things I am glad were unexplained: whether this is actually the home planet of the engineer people, or if that was all of them on the planet that were destroyed, or if those were even the ship-building engineers or another child race
― mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 14:32 (six years ago) link
I like to think in a time dilation plot twist, it was a Trump rally
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 22 May 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link
I just remembered the alien-cam effect that Scott used in this, which wasn't even as interesting as what Fincher did in Alien3.
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Monday, 22 May 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link
i hope it was the snapchat dog filter
― 🎵 it's grey pubic now, stoner blue 🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 May 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link
for some reason the alien cam is the part of the movie I'm trying the hardest to forget
I just kept wondering: why?
― mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link
I mean obviously it can't be ALL of the engineers because the xenomorph still has to burst out of one of them on the derelict
― El Tomboto, Monday, 22 May 2017 15:53 (six years ago) link
Gotta say if David wants to lure people to a spooky planet full of blackened corpses and endless storms, he probably could do better than John Denver. Surely Shaw said or did SOMETHING else more like a message back to Earth? Or David could just stand in front of a camera saying, "this is David, last survivor of the Prometheus, if anyone is out there I have critical information and samples to bring back to Weyland headquarters" etc. In general his plan, such as it is, seems badly worked out - what if everybody got killed by the black spores or the marshmallow Peep aliens before he could link up with them? Why fake a crash-landed ship and then keep himself so far away? Or did Shaw crash the ship to strand David after realizing what he'd done? I guess he was assuming any visitors would make a beeline for the huge mysterious city, but when the ship of fools fails to even notice it he sighs, gathers his Obi-Wan Kenobi spooky cloak and noisemakers and starts hiking?
Really wonder what this movie would play like to anyone who didn't see Prometheus. Or who hasn't seen an Alien movie for that matter, since if it weren't Scott directing I think it would be much more apparent that this is essentially a generic 2010s Hollywood franchise reboot, just with better visuals than most. Might as well have been marketed as "Alien (2017)."
― ﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Monday, 22 May 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
Or "The Secret Of The Story Of The Stranger" which seems like a more accurate description (thanks, neural network thread)
― El Tomboto, Monday, 22 May 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
who has read all the comics? do any of them take the story in the correct direction (ie one i wd like) (bearing in mind i like alien3 and 4)
Alien: The Illustrated Story (1979) not part of Dark Horse's Aliens seriesAliens (Series 1) (July 1988-July 1989) aka Aliens: Book I, aka Aliens: OutbreakAliens: Theory of Alien Propagation (Nov. 1988)Aliens (Series 2) (Aug. 1989-May 1990) aka Aliens: Book II, aka Aliens: Nightmare AsylumAliens: Earth War (June-Oct. 1990) aka Aliens: Female WarAliens: Advent/Terminus (July-Aug. 1990)Aliens: Countdown (Sept. 1990-Dec. 1991)Aliens: Reapers (April 1991)Aliens: The Alien (Nov. 1991)Aliens: Genocide (Nov. 1991-February 1992)Aliens: Hive (February-May 1992)Aliens: Tribes (April 1992)Dark Horse Presents: Aliens Platinum Edition (April 1992)Aliens: Newt's Tale (June-July 1992)Alien³ (June-July 1992)Aliens: Renegade (Aug.-Sept. 1992) aka "Renegade"Aliens: Horror Show (Oct.-Dec. 1992)Aliens: Colonial Marines (Jan. 1993-July 1994)Aliens: Countdown (March-April 1993) UK mini-comic reprintAliens: Rogue (April-July 1993)Aliens: Sacrifice (May 1993)Aliens: Taste (July 1993)Aliens: Crusade (July 1993-March 1994) incompleteAliens: Backsplash (Aug.-Sept. 1993)Aliens: Labyrinth (Sept. 1993-Jan. 1994)Aliens: Salvation (Nov. 1993)Aliens: Cargo (Nov.-Dec. 1993)Aliens: Alien (Jan.-Feb. 1994)Aliens: Music of the Spears (Jan.-April 1994)Aliens: Matrix (May 1994) never releasedAliens: Stronghold (May-Sept. 1994)Aliens: Mondo Pest (June-Aug. 1994) original serializationAliens: Earth Angel (Aug. 1994)Aliens: Berserker (Jan.-April 1995) aka Aliens: FrenzyAliens: Mondo Pest (April 1995) collected versionAliens: Incubation (Sept.-Oct. 1995)Aliens: Mondo Heat (Feb. 1996)Aliens: Lucky (Sept. 1996)Aliens: Lovesick (Dec. 1996)Aliens: Headhunters (Jan. 1997)Aliens: Pig (March 1997)Aliens: Border Lines (May 1997)Aliens: Special (June 1997)Aliens: 45 SecondsAliens: Elder GodsAliens: Havoc (June-July 1997)Aliens: Purge (Aug. 1997)Aliens: Alchemy (Sept.-Dec. 1997)Alien Resurrection (Oct.-Nov. 1997)Aliens: Kidnapped (Dec. 1997-Feb. 1998)Aliens: Tourist Season (Feb. 1998)Aliens: Survival (Feb.-April 1998)Aliens: Glass Corridor (June 1998)Aliens: Stalker (June 1998)Aliens: Wraith (July 1998)Aliens: Apocalypse - The Destroying Angels (Jan.-May 1999)Aliens: Once in a Lifetime (Feb. 1999)Aliens: Xenogenesis (Aug.-Nov. 1999)Aliens: (Series 3) - More Than Human (May-Dec. 2009)Aliens: Fast Track to Heaven (Aug. 2010)Aliens: Inhuman Condition (Apr. 2013)Alien: Fire and Stone (2014)
― mark s, Monday, 22 May 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link
best titles: Aliens: The Alien Aliens: Alien Aliens: Mondo Pest Aliens: Mondo Heat Aliens: Lovesick Aliens: Pig
― mark s, Monday, 22 May 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link
From aliens:strongholdhttp://www.idoc.co/files/4ba77aecdfbb7c4583-66.jpg
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 22 May 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link
disappointed the extensible inner mandibles aren't used as a cigar cutter tbh
pete baran formerly of this board is reliably enraged that *all* monsters since alien have extensible inner mandibles now (most egregiously the sea serpent in voyage of the dawn treader)
― mark s, Monday, 22 May 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link
Stephen R Bissette wrote a novelette called Aliens: Tribes, which won a Stoker award. Seems to be the only text fiction he's ever written.
There's probably lots of novels too.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 22 May 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link
there are a handful of good comics, but I'll be damned if I remember any of the series/arc titles
― mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link
i remember kinda enjoying earth war (which extends the story of ripley, newt and hicks iirc) when I read it like 20 years ago but i'd def be hesitant to recommend it now
― 🎵 it's grey pubic now, stoner blue 🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 May 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link
iirc they retconned it after the next movie came out and changed the character names in reprintings
― mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link
I own a single Dark Horse Aliens novel, simply because it features "Reapers". This was a short story where Simon Bisley drew the art and it's fantastic.
Other stories include: "Theory of Alien Propogation""Advent""Terminus""The Alien"
He also did the cover for this one, http://www.simonbisleyart.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/dsc_0426.jpg
― PressAnarchyToContinue (Ste), Monday, 22 May 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link
oh yeah that's right
it helped that the artist couldn't draw recognisable versions of the characters so new readers likely wouldn't notice
― 🎵 it's grey pubic now, stoner blue 🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 May 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
the simon bisley pic is very judge death
― mark s, Monday, 22 May 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?1277
The books, including Jeff Vandermeer, Robert Sheckley and John Shirley.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 22 May 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
Sheckley!
― Number None, Monday, 22 May 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link
doctor casino you are otm but i watched this tonight and...... kinda loved it? that said i was rooting for the aliens the whole time so that might have changed my evaluation of things. no i'm exaggerating i did want daniels and tennessee (where's "jack"?) to survive. kinda. but oh god it was sweet to see the official worst captain ever get lured over to that alien egg. he was the WORST. i was shocked by the selfishness of the crew doctor, dilfer or whatever she was called. she just ran around wildly with tainted blood all over her. no thought for quarantining herself (even tennessee knows there's protocols for that). when she came back into the med bay with a gun and immediately slipped on the blood i laughed out loud in the theatre, what a moment. like man, you guys do not stand a CHANCE.
all the stuff about "i gotta go shower" or "i gotta take a leak" - which comprises the bulk of a lot of people's complaints that i've read - maybe it's just me but i eat that stuff up. it's a genre staple. i know what's coming and it's delicious. like watching the letters of the title of the movie slowly get constructed at the beginning of the movie. you know what it's going to spell but it's cool watching it come in anyway. (though in this one it all comes in much too quickly. in the orig. those titles come in agonizingly, achingly, decadently slow)
yes agree it was insane that they didn't even bother writing a 20-second scene to explain why they weren't taking precautions against contamination. just say the suits caught fire in the solar flare. anything would do! so weird!
i guess there was a little invisible ledge under the airlock door that daniels hopped onto, at the end? i guess?? pretty lame. but god i loved danny mcbride then. the big lunk.
parts of this felt very KONG.
dr c i didn't understand this: "weird that he doesn't just take his space jockey spaceship to earth or something, but anyway." what ship is that? the crashed, mossy one?
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 May 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link
oh also i loved the little white fuckerhead aliens! jesus pete! those were proper aliens, fast as fuck, scarcely even seeable, just a mad buzzsaw of teeth and limbs and pure hate.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 May 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
well, david pilots the space jockey ship to Planet Old-Timey Space Jockeys and kills them all. at that point he has an evil spaceship, the black goo, access to all of the space jockeys' advanced sixth-century technology, and shaw as a captive test subject in hypersleep. why's he crash the ship on a mountain? just in the hopes that someday a beacon of shaw singing john denver will lure somebody to the crash site and it'll look more realistic? why not just hit the gas and go looking for victims for his insane experiments, if he wants to destroy all humans and also destroy all space jockeys for whatever reason that we aren't told? go looking for colonist ships in hypersleep even. or was he really planning on staying on his creepy basement planet forever, happily tinkering on model ships and facehuggers, and it's only after these morons show up that he's like "hey, wait, this gives me an idea"?
i like genre staples, i just want to find them in good genre movies. with a cast half this size, that i related to as people, where you had any time given over to building up suspense and audience identification, i might have been freaked out and heart racing in the theater, not wanting to see them face whatever horrible thing lies around the creepy corner. but it just blitzed through everything. the titles coming onto screen too fast is basically the movie in microcosm imho. but glad you had more fun with it!
― ﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Monday, 22 May 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link
even his cover story to walter is pretty stupid (unless it's a more intelligently-written bit, where he's ashamed of what he did and wants walter to like him and is putting off telling him the truth until later) - - - why even admit the suspicious coincidence of their ship arriving and releasing the black goo? you'd think he'd be like "yes this planet is truly mysterious, we arrived to find everybody dead, the best i can tell is that they developed this deadly pathogen and then accidentally released it, shaw had only begun to plumb its riddles when she tragically passed away. please pay no attention to her horrible preserved corpse over there in the corner." but OTOH the idea that david doesn't really "get" people, for all his love of lawrence of arabia (or am i mixing prometheus up with wall-e?), is actually an interesting one that you'd hope more could have been done with.
― ﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Monday, 22 May 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link
I appreciated the lack of explanation for why the ship was crashed! like idk I hope Ridley doesn't make another movie to explain why he couldn't find a spot to properly land it
― mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 22:35 (six years ago) link
i'm fine with every single thing not being spelled out, it's just when the actual things we're shown, and the character's motivations, don't make any internal sense it just seems like they're making shit up and throwing it into the movie. idk i should stop thinking about this movie but man it was real dumb.
― ﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link
did u see the part where an alien burst through a guy's back, that was hardcore
― mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:27 (six years ago) link
With the mystifying Idris Elba onsessed with Stephen Stills in Prometheus, and John fucking Denver in this one, obviously in the Aliens universe/Ridley Scott's head nobody has written a song since 1980.
Is the escape from the lab in Alien: Resurrection the high point of the idea that Aliens actually think and co-operate?
Ripley: They cut the power.Private Hudson: What do you mean *they* cut the power? How could they cut the power, man? They're animals!
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link
nobody has written a song since 1980
Ridley is Geir
― mh, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:31 (six years ago) link
SPOILERS
Saw this brought up elsewhere so I can't take credit, but why the hell did David create a fake headstone for Shaw? He had no expectation that anyone was ever going to come along that he would either need to show it to or otherwise explain.
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 12:08 (six years ago) link
he's an insane robot?
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 12:18 (six years ago) link
Neural networks will produce some bizarre outputs.
― jmm, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 12:23 (six years ago) link
idk, her body with a huge gaping hole in the torso /could/ be under there
― mh, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 12:26 (six years ago) link
I couldn't figure out if what others found was actually a preserved her or a sculpture
― mh, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 12:27 (six years ago) link
i wanted to see more of his drawings. basically everything i wanted to see more of in this movie last about a minute onscreen. i even wanted to see more of the terraforming room on the ship. or more of the ship.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 12:35 (six years ago) link
The stone city. Wanted to see more of that.
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:53 (six years ago) link
so I shouldn't watch this huh
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:58 (six years ago) link
do you want to see Fassbender smooch himself
― mh, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link
I want to watch Fassbender smooch me
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:08 (six years ago) link
“I’ll do the fingering.”
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link
imo they established via Walter that the David android models were pretty much discontinued and boxed up on earth, but didn't have enough of Walter reacting to how fucked up David was
― mh, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link