Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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Mr President, we needed some cartons of Um Bongo, and three packets of Hula Hoops, but apparently you gave the order to buy them yesterday? And they arrived just now!

Mark G, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:31 (seven years ago) link

or the Simpsons spoof of that episode.

photo of Chris Christie tucking Trump in to bed:

http://static-media.fxx.com/img/FX_Networks_-_FXX/640/939/Simpsons_03_04_P3.jpg

evol j, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:31 (seven years ago) link

What is going to happen if people who feel less need to be diplomatic have to deal with him?
Is it going to be constant meltdown. just had the tantrum scene from the President Show playing i8n the background. Is that a prediction?

Stevolende, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:32 (seven years ago) link

"I can't get over how much taller you are compared to Obama!"

Mark G, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:32 (seven years ago) link

trump's a fuckin load choad toad

― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Friday, May 19, 2017 9:25 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a9610233/donald-trump-frog-mouth-memes/

human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Friday, 19 May 2017 14:33 (seven years ago) link

like we always say whenever something crazy happens, it's GOOD that Trump did that.

evol j, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:34 (seven years ago) link

Getting ready for my big foreign trip. Will be strongly protecting American interests - that's what I like to do!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 19, 2017

Donald's Big Day

mookieproof, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:35 (seven years ago) link

This is like that episode of Twilight ZOne where some small kid has huge godlike powers and everyone is in terror of him

― Violet Jynx, Friday, May 19, 2017 9:29 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I really should've trademarked this observation when I first made it six months ago.

human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Friday, 19 May 2017 14:35 (seven years ago) link

Donald's Big Day

They grow up so fast ...

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:37 (seven years ago) link

you may have made it independently, but i think others predated

xp

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 May 2017 14:37 (seven years ago) link

Also a limited attention depth, so it's balanced.

we have no facts and we're voting no (Hunt3r), Friday, 19 May 2017 14:41 (seven years ago) link

you may have made it independently, but i think others predated

xp

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, May 19, 2017 9:37 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Mmmm, pretty sure I invented it. I also came up with this phrase the other day, 'prime the pump'? Pretty good phrase. Also that ball of fire in the sky that lights up the planet? All me.

human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Friday, 19 May 2017 14:45 (seven years ago) link

you're a winner

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 May 2017 14:48 (seven years ago) link

Why Lieberman of all people?

― Treeship, Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:57 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for the same reason he fired Comey, Trump sees it as a concession. Not surprising that he totally misreads his opposition.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:00 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's a "smart play", he was a Democrat! All Democrats love all other Democrats! This'll show 'em...

― Οὖτις, Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:00 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i hate lieberman as much as anyone, but i have to say i don't really understand the democratic opposition. isn't he. better than whatever the alternative is?

k3vin k., Friday, 19 May 2017 14:50 (seven years ago) link

he's senior counsel at Kasowitz, Benson, Torres and Friedman, a law firm that represents Trump

Mordy, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:53 (seven years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_a_Good_Life_(The_Twilight_Zone)

" They have to think happy thoughts and say happy things because once displeased, the monster can wish them into a cornfield or change them into a grotesque, walking horror. This particular monster can read minds, you see. He knows every thought, he can feel every emotion. Oh yes, I did forget something, didn't I? I forgot to introduce you to the monster. This is the monster. His name is Tonald Drump."

Violet Jynx, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:54 (seven years ago) link

he also publicly supported flynn's initial appointment. conflicts of interest everywhere. xp

Mordy, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:54 (seven years ago) link

You don't understand why Democrats would be opposed to putting a politician who stabbed them in the back in charge of the FBI? Not someone who has been ideologically opposed to them from the beginning, but someone who was considered a leader in their party and was likely privy to a bunch of their internal information who then went out of his way to hinder them politically, including endorsing the opposing party's candidate in 2008?

xp: His employment is not actually a conflict of interest, as outlined by a friend of mine on Facebook who is a former DOJ lawyer:

Two things: 1. Joe Lieberman is a hot steaming load but his membership at Kasowitz does not pose a conflict of interest as far as his nomination for FBI Director just because the firm has from time to time represented Trump or the Trump Organization. By definition, if someone leaves a position at a law firm for another job, THERE IS NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST. So stop it. No conflict of interest, Lieberman is unsuitable as FBI Director because he's a hot load of garbage but that's it.

2. For the exact same reasons, the supposed "conflicts of interest" regarding Robert Mueller's former membership in WilmerHale are irrelevant now he has been appointed special counsel for the investigation into the Trump campaign's collusion with Russia and collateral activities. AGAIN. He no longer works there. Accordingly, NO CONFLICTS. Mueller, not a pile of garbage like Lieberman.

Please apply the correct analysis when hating on people. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Friday, 19 May 2017 14:56 (seven years ago) link

how is it not a conflict of interest? maybe there's no legal conflict of interest but he's clearly coming from a world deeply embedded in the Trump business. he is coming with particular views informed by his previous private employment.

Mordy, Friday, 19 May 2017 14:58 (seven years ago) link

you can say that about everyone who ever takes a new job

maybe there's no legal conflict of interest

this is the only definition that matters

mookieproof, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link

Was going to post the cover of "Country Life" but didn't want to NSFW the thread.

― Josh in Chicago

do the censored version. now _that's_ a successful camouflage!

Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Friday, 19 May 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link

He's a principled, honorable man willing to work across the aisles and he's definitely not going to fuck the democrats over THIS time

xpost

Karl Malone, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link

thanks for posting that DJP

k3vin k., Friday, 19 May 2017 15:01 (seven years ago) link

xxxp and hillary had no legal conflict of interest getting paid to give speeches to banks and then running for public office. but ppl generally agree that it's at the very least nagl and probably represents a conflict of interest in reality.

Mordy, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:01 (seven years ago) link

i'm just saying if we defeat lieberman it's not like we're going to get someone better instead. but i respect the opposition out of principle

k3vin k., Friday, 19 May 2017 15:02 (seven years ago) link

it's a conflict of interest because Trump is a master hypnotist who used Joe Lieberman's old law firm to hypnotize Joe Lieberman into doing his bidding for the rest of his life

sexualing healing (crüt), Friday, 19 May 2017 15:02 (seven years ago) link

acc to this definition kellyanne conway could quit her job with the trump administration and get appointed as head of the FBI and there'd be no conflict of interest bc she quit her last job. this is obviously very very silly + tendentious reading of the term "conflict of interest."

Mordy, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:02 (seven years ago) link

Are you a lawyer?

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Friday, 19 May 2017 15:04 (seven years ago) link

i'm not speaking about a legal standard but a colloquial one so i don't know why a legal background is necessary

Mordy, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:04 (seven years ago) link

well there's also the fact that, in a gov't appointment that actually does seem to require relevant experience, he is completely lacking in any

jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 19 May 2017 15:05 (seven years ago) link

you're looking for a different word than "tendentious", which if anything describes your position! (which i don't even disagree with.) are you aware of the term "regulatory capture"? this kind of bullshit happens in federal appointments all the time. i think joe is a slimeball and deserves even worse than the public humiliation of having his nomination defeated, but tbh when his name was floated i wasn't too mad.

k3vin k., Friday, 19 May 2017 15:08 (seven years ago) link

i'm not speaking about a legal standard but a colloquial one so i don't know why a legal background is necessary

Because a) "conflict of interest" is a legal term that has meaning, b) the colloquial standard is not a standard, and c) even if a colloquial standard existed, it is completely immaterial to whether someone is legally able to hold a particular position.

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Friday, 19 May 2017 15:08 (seven years ago) link

conflict of interest is not just a legal term - i'd say even not primarily a legal term. when most ppl use it they aren't using it as a legal claim.

Mordy, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:09 (seven years ago) link

heads of the FDA and FTC are regularly business executives who have clashed with the agency in the past. fuckin betsy devos is the education secretary. lieberman does not have a "conflict of interest" in any meaningful sense of the word, i'm sorry. that horse left the barn decades ago

k3vin k., Friday, 19 May 2017 15:10 (seven years ago) link

are you aware of the term "regulatory capture"? this kind of bullshit happens in federal appointments all the time.

i don't disagree w/ this at all i'm just floating why some dems might not be thrilled to hire a guy who works for a trump affiliated law firm and publicly supported flynn's appointment to the administration

Mordy, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:10 (seven years ago) link

btw lieberman testified on behalf of devos too

Mordy, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:10 (seven years ago) link

god he is the worst

k3vin k., Friday, 19 May 2017 15:11 (seven years ago) link

ABA Model Rule 1.11:

(d) Except as law may otherwise expressly permit, a lawyer currently serving as a public officer or employee:

(1) is subject to Rules 1.7 and 1.9; and

(2) shall not:

(i) participate in a matter in which the lawyer participated personally and substantially while in private practice or nongovernmental employment, unless the appropriate government agency gives its informed consent, confirmed in writing; or

by the light of the burning Citroën, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:12 (seven years ago) link

has lieberman been directly involved in any of trump's business, though? being an employee /= substantial participation

jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 19 May 2017 15:14 (seven years ago) link

right, "personally participated" and "matter" rather than a broad prohibition, but still not a carte blanche.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:17 (seven years ago) link

trump made regulatory capture an art form with his cabinet appointments.

would not be good for us or for the FBI if he installs a politician at the head of it

Dan S, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:17 (seven years ago) link

Lieberman Team! Now we're sharing the same dream! And our lawyers act as one - no more laws on the run!

Violet Jynx, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:18 (seven years ago) link

I saw something about Lieberman not having the right background. Was it earlier in this thread?
He was from the wrong branch of law or something so didn't have the experience in the right area to oversee procedures.
Plus he's old.
Plus his baggage.

Stevolende, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:21 (seven years ago) link

Its weird how Wiener's weiner is now a big story but Trumps pussy-grabbin'
antics got him elected

God I hope he ain't considerin' grabbin foreign leader's pussies on his big trip!?

Violet Jynx, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link

plus he's garbage

Violet Jynx, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link

pretty impressive how toxic Lieberman is when even Joe f-ing Manchin opposes him.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:24 (seven years ago) link

I get Mordy's point, and I guess the depressing thing we have to acknowledge is that most workplaces apply more stringent extralegal definitions of what constitutes a conflict of interest than does our federal government.

human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Friday, 19 May 2017 15:24 (seven years ago) link

"t was during the post-9/11 years that Lieberman linked arms with Republicans Graham and McCain, two other hawks who, like their Democratic friend, were known to thwart their party. The trio traveled the world together and became known as the "Three Amigos." So high was their mutual regard that McCain reportedly wanted Lieberman to be his 2008 running mate, though he eventually succumbed to pressure to pick conservative Sarah Palin instead."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/19/politics/why-democrats-dont-like-joe-lieberman/

Violet Jynx, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:25 (seven years ago) link

lolz

https://publicoccurrenc.blogspot.com/2015/06/three-amigos.html

Violet Jynx, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link


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