Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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When does the CBO score come down? I want to say it arrived faster the first time around.

And yes, they are they incompetent, but that's what happens when you offer solutions in search of a problem. Step one, repeal Obamacare! Step two, um, come up with a replacement plan.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:52 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"next week" - not sure when exactly

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:02 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/EtuKSjS.gif

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:03 (seven years ago) link

did any press ask trump what he thought about erdogan's goons kicking the shit out of americans?

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:03 (seven years ago) link

I didn't know that Ailes was a hemophiliac.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, May 18, 2017 3:13 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i haven't read the stories but subdural bleeds lasting for days are not uncommon, esp in old farts

― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, May 18, 2017 4:21 PM (forty-one minutes ago)

i was just reviewing neuro last week and subdural hematoma was the first thing i thought too. textbook case!

k3vin k., Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link

re: that Flynn/Turkey/Raqqa thing, Ilan Goldenberg had a good concise summary of the situation last night (now confirmed by Obama admin as Ned's NBC link reports):

Ilan Goldenberg‏ @ilangoldenberg
1. This Flynn Raqqa story is complicated but HUGE!! it borders on treasonous
2. Obama team has plan to take Raqqa. want to move quickly because a lot of the scariest terror plotting against western targets is there
3. Turks hate the plan because they don't want Kurds going to Raqqa
4. Obama team asks Trump team for OK to move. Flynn says no
5. But unbeknownst to Obama team, Flynn is under investigation for taking money from the Turks & not disclosing it
6. And the Trump team already knows he's under investigation
7. The plan to take Raqqa gets delayed for months and now finally underway
8. I guess no real harm comes of it. Not like ISIS is plotting to blow up airplanes with laptops or anything like that
9. There were reasonable policy reasons to wait on Raqqa as Kurds are not the ideal force to retake it
10. But it's hard to not look at these facts & suspect that Turkish money may have played a role
11. In short: Flynn may have put Americans at greater risk of terror attack because he was taking $$$ from foreign gov't

Dan S, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:06 (seven years ago) link

we're now in that 2-3pm pacific time sweet spot where all the news drops and I cant get a fucking thing done at work

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:12 (seven years ago) link

when was the last time the us executed someone for treason

Drive Your Lover Wild In Bed By Cosplaying As Jeff Lynne (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:14 (seven years ago) link

i believe it was some of the people in this story, which is absolely nuts and insane and 100% worth reading https://www.damninteresting.com/operation-pastorius/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:17 (seven years ago) link

xxp same here

HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:17 (seven years ago) link

man between Trump and the House GOP the United Stats is the Space Station Mir

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:17 (seven years ago) link

wholly-owned by Russia?

Drive Your Lover Wild In Bed By Cosplaying As Jeff Lynne (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:20 (seven years ago) link

Da.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:22 (seven years ago) link

actually i think that pastorius incident also established the precedent of "enemy combatant", so it may not actually have been treason they were executed for. rosenburgs were espionage.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:22 (seven years ago) link

Others have pointed this out, but it sure seems like Time has mistaken St. Basil's Cathedral for the Kremlin. pic.twitter.com/r5BIMEI7vP

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) May 18, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:23 (seven years ago) link

who do we think is getting executed for treason?

k3vin k., Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:23 (seven years ago) link

thx for the link caek, reading with increasing incredulity now

Drive Your Lover Wild In Bed By Cosplaying As Jeff Lynne (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:24 (seven years ago) link

St. Basil's is on Red Square, just across from the Kremlin, dingus

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:29 (seven years ago) link

hence it is not the Kremlin

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:31 (seven years ago) link

VISUALS, YOU INGRATES, VISUALS

j., Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:32 (seven years ago) link

https://www.axios.com/house-leadership-worry-more-of-their-meetings-were-secretly-recorded-2413142464.html

The most widespread theory in House leadership is that the secret recorder and the leaker was Evan McMullin, who as a former leadership aide participated in the June 15 conversation and confirmed the private conversation to the Washington Post. (I am told that the Post, in their back-and-forth with leadership over the story, privately said that the source wasn't McMullin. There's no evidence that he was the leaker and I've reached out to him for comment.)

Evidence or not, leadership sources are privately worried that McMullin had a tape on while he sat silently through all of their confidential meetings. They're concerned about what leaks could come next.

Number None, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:33 (seven years ago) link

need an onion-kelly style cartoon of putin, a bear and an onion-dome robot molesting lady liberty. just about as subtle.

goole, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:34 (seven years ago) link

I was annoyed by the subbing in of St Basils as well

Treeship, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:39 (seven years ago) link

I have no problem with a massive mainstream weekly ham-fisting the point home, if that's what it takes

Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:39 (seven years ago) link

yeah, the visual shorthand for russia in the popular imagination isn't the actual kremlin building

Drive Your Lover Wild In Bed By Cosplaying As Jeff Lynne (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link

it's the cover of tetris

Drive Your Lover Wild In Bed By Cosplaying As Jeff Lynne (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:41 (seven years ago) link

Russian Orthodox churches are beautiful

Treeship, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:41 (seven years ago) link

I feel like if McMullin was the leaker he wouldn't have confirmed anything on the record in the same article. He could have done it anonymously? Maybe he dgaf?

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:42 (seven years ago) link

p see, they'll also impose their religion on us

bc they hate our freedoms

it all fits

j., Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:43 (seven years ago) link

It's not even a church any more but I am prepared to consider the implied hypothesis that Trump is possessed by the malevolent ghost of Ivan IV.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:46 (seven years ago) link

trump probably more familiar with ivan drago

Drive Your Lover Wild In Bed By Cosplaying As Jeff Lynne (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:48 (seven years ago) link

I am prepared to consider the implied hypothesis that Trump is possessed by the malevolent ghost of Ivan IV.

[photoshops trump/jared into repin painting]

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:49 (seven years ago) link

Nice little update

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/05/18/politics/financial-data-intelligence-committees-senate-house/index.html

Investigators on the House intelligence committees have obtained access to valuable data from the Treasury Department, a development that will open their doors to investigate possible connections between President Donald Trump's business empire and Russians, CNN has learned.

Investigators received access to the financial data this week, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the development.

Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate intelligence committee told reporters Thursday that his committee also had gotten the Treasury Department data.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:59 (seven years ago) link

nice little financial data hoonja doonja

j., Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:01 (seven years ago) link

if Lemieux is right, and this investigation is only likely to reach Iran-Contra levels of impact, isn't that an argument that the FBI/DOJ probe be supplemented by some sort of select or independent committee?

not sure why Graham was saying today that he and the other weasels in congress could wash their hands of the intelligence committee investigations now that Mueller is in charge. Hope that doesn't happen

Dan S, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:02 (seven years ago) link

that's not really what Graham said

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:04 (seven years ago) link

he was being fairly straightforward imo - with a criminal investigation now ongoing, the scope of the committee's work will be inhibited by the fact that people won't want to testify or bring forward information because that is likely to be used against them in the criminal investigation. It makes the range of evidence they'll be able to both make public and get their hands on narrower.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:05 (seven years ago) link

as noted, the committees don't really have a lot of power to compel people to testify or deliver evidence (hence Flynn's refusal to comply with the subpoena) - but the criminal investigation *does* have that power, and thus will be deferred to as the better tool for ferreting that stuff out.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:07 (seven years ago) link

Tick tick tick - another day is almost done and if he doesn't fuck up again today, he will fuck up tomorrow. Tick tick tick.

I'm getting the hang of this.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:08 (seven years ago) link

as his interviewer wondered, could dual investigations be the best thing for this? he kind of hedged but I guess he didn't give a definitive no.

I'm not familiar with all this, but I would have thought there would be other counter-intelligence information that they could uncover

xp

Dan S, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:12 (seven years ago) link

Another great plan!

EXCLUSIVE: Trump planning retaliation for leaks -- “ludicrous” revenge plan targeting Obama administration. https://t.co/1X3jbK41Fl

— Benjamin Pauker (@benpauker) May 18, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:12 (seven years ago) link

well there's already different committees in the House and Senate doing their own thing, and now the special counsel investigation, there could easily be yet another bipartisan commission or something (there probably won't be though)

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:13 (seven years ago) link

I'm scared!

xpost

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:17 (seven years ago) link

They're out looking for you, Mr. Soto

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:18 (seven years ago) link

Trump's back, and Soto's got him

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:19 (seven years ago) link

acc to politico senate dems reject lieberman for FBI

nice

goole, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:27 (seven years ago) link

he burned a lot of bridges in the party

still, he'll be confirmed by a party-line vote with 51 GOP votes

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:34 (seven years ago) link

(at least - I could see some Dem assholes defecting as well but idk maybe not in this climate)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:34 (seven years ago) link

that's true re: confirmation. i think (scare-quote) historically the post gets near-unanimous approval. if that's a norm they don't feel like violating right now, who knows.

goole, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:37 (seven years ago) link

even manchin is skeptical

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/18/joe-lieberman-fbi-director-senate-democrats-238570

goole, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:37 (seven years ago) link


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