Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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don't think we're gonna have a congressional majority that soon, even with the crazy shit going on now

fwiw

3 generic ballots out this week: Democrats +8 avg. with an expanding lead. Even at this point, the poll question has been fairly predictive. pic.twitter.com/Yo8UNSW3Ke

— (((Harry Enten))) (@ForecasterEnten) May 17, 2017

iirc something like +4 D is consistent with taking back the house?

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link

Oh, heavens. If Dem leaders did a little 'grandstanding' on some NS shit or privacy concerns, maybe i'd have a tad more respect for the party.

you mean like when Pelosi voted against extending the Patriot Act

why do I even bother

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

yeah the house is the doable one since everyone is always up for re-election. but iirc the 2018 senate outlook is much bleaker? i'd love to be wrong

k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

senate is v unlikely bc way more dem seats up than rep

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link

Dems have p much no chance of taking the Senate in 2018, much less getting the 2/3rds required for impeachment. Which is why Trump will not be removed from office - the GOP in the Senate votes won't be there.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link

currently we're looking at a likely scenario of the GOP losing the House, which would mean impeachment proceedings that would then die in the Senate. Things could change, of course.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link

Dems have p much no chance of taking the Senate in 2018, much less getting the 2/3rds required for impeachment. Which is why Trump will not be removed from office - the GOP in the Senate votes won't be there.

if house flips that kills the GOP legislative agenda dead at which point if trump is completely toxic the calculus for keeping him / impeaching him changes. esp if they're killed in 2018 and get scared that it's bc of trump. better to rip that band-aid off.

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link

it seems significantly more likely that he'll just drop dead as opposed to resigning or getting tossed out.

evol j, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:25 (seven years ago) link

you never know. reagan's tax cuts might finally kick in, prosperity happily trickling down

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:27 (seven years ago) link

I can't remember if in early 2005 both House and Senate looked good for Dems. Someone give me data. I thought the House in 2006 was a given, but the S3nate a surprise.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link

Please don't mention trickling down in connection with Trump.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link

Republican contempt for the American people has never been so palpable

Violet Jynx, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link

esp if they're killed in 2018 and get scared that it's bc of trump. better to rip that band-aid off.

these guys don't do long-term planning. well, McConnell does I guess. But impeaching him with votes from his own party won't really do any good for their legislative agenda either - it will be an admission of defeat

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link

I can't remember if in early 2005 both House and Senate looked good for Dems. Someone give me data. I thought the House in 2006 was a given, but the S3nate a surprise.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:28 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Senate in 2006 flipped largely because George Allen called SR Sidarth "macaca" on camera.

softie (silby), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link

Tillerson: "No way to know" if Russians bugged Oval Office during meeting https://t.co/paGh8JdLl1 pic.twitter.com/UnAPaUDUY7

— The Hill (@thehill) May 17, 2017

it is a mystery

mookieproof, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link

Senate in 2006 flipped largely because George Allen called SR Sidarth "macaca" on camera.

One of my friends helped break this story to the press, btw

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:42 (seven years ago) link

Republican contempt for the American people has never been so palpable

― Violet Jynx, Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess your perspective depends on what color of American people you are.

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link

I can't remember a time when the GOP didn't show contempt for public.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:46 (seven years ago) link

it's kind of their schtick

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link

any republican senator who votes to remove trump from office is killing their future senatorial prospects dead. i'm not saying we won't get to the point where 20 or so republicans are willing to never eat lunch in dc again in order to get rid of him, but they have a pretty strong disincentive to throw the bum out.

Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link

I can't remember a time when the GOP didn't show contempt for public.

mid 19th century?

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link

btw Yam used "surety" in that Coast Guard speech

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link

hey c'mon he's not THAT old

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link

I can't remember the 19th century

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link

Spicer says Trump will interview JOE LIEBERMAN for FBI chief later today, along with 3 other candidates.

— Steven Portnoy (@stevenportnoy) May 17, 2017

yesssss

mookieproof, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link

"So, you taping me or the Russians?"

"Ha ha ha."

...

"...you're not kidding?"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link

Abraham Lincoln must be ejaculating pure gold into the mouth of Alexander the Great in his grave at all this

Violet Jynx, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link

a likely scenario of the GOP losing the House

I just don't think it's that likely. But a razor-thin majority that helps keep Paul Ryan from doing anything is pretty plausible.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:56 (seven years ago) link

oh cool might be time for a revive of Joe Lieberman RIP

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:58 (seven years ago) link

what kinda crimes wd a Joementum FBI obsess on, i wonder

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:59 (seven years ago) link

this is a weird thing to say but I think Lieberman is too smart to walk into this buzzsaw tbh

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:00 (seven years ago) link

apparently he's agreeing to be interviewed, so....

k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:03 (seven years ago) link

well he loves having his ego stroked

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:04 (seven years ago) link

Fun fact: Lieberman has been operating under a curse that compels him to answer "yes" to anything ever asked of him. This is why he ate a tire last week, and was on the sidewalk offering free foot rubs the other day.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:05 (seven years ago) link

kris kobach for FBI chief. investigate and revoke the franchise from everyone with less than a six figure net worth

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link

don't give them any ideas.

evol j, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:09 (seven years ago) link

He might as well nominate MC Skat Cat.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:15 (seven years ago) link

yeah I think Joe is eminently flippable

xpost I don't think that would go well, they seem like complete opposites.

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:18 (seven years ago) link

*rimshot*

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link

yeah I think Joe is eminently flippable

― People like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:18 PM (one minute ago)

honestly just seems like the kind of guy who will go along with whatever you want him to if you stroke his ego enough, as shakey mentioned. a pretty rare bird these days, actually

k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link

Timing!

Milwaukee Co. Sheriff Clarke taking appointment to asst. sec. of Homeland Security in D.C. per WISN radio just now.

— Nick Penzenstadler (@npenzenstadler) May 17, 2017

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link

As for Joe

Lieberman won't say if he'd accept FBI dir job if offered. Tells @JoeNBC&@JesseRodriguez "it was unexpected. Not something I was seeking."

— Ali Vitali (@alivitali) May 17, 2017

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:25 (seven years ago) link

dude has zero law enforcement experience except this?

From 1983 to 1989, he served as Connecticut Attorney General.[25] In the 1986 general election, Lieberman won more votes than any other Democrat on the statewide ticket, including Governor William O'Neill.[26] As Attorney General, Lieberman emphasized consumer protection and environmental enforcement.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:26 (seven years ago) link

he also helped create the garbage dept. of homeland security.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:26 (seven years ago) link

"It was unexpected" and "Not something I was seeking" pretty much the two stand-by responses most would have to anything Trump does.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:26 (seven years ago) link

H Rodham Clinton is a doorstop

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:35 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

keep being the change you want to see in the world

pickety third (stevie), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:27 (seven years ago) link


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