Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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Hi! What have I missed?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:41 (seven years ago) link

where is that thread where we voted on whether trump would be impeached by the midterms? i may want to reconsider my vote

k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:42 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agkr-Ihs6xQ

CNN's Pamela Brown: The source I spoke to said Comey did not do this with President Obama in part because he had fewer one on one conversations with the president, and as the source said, in Comey’s view, there was no need to document the conversations with people that are truthful or situations that are routine.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:42 (seven years ago) link

H Rodham Clinton is a doorstop

morbsbot appears to be malfunctioning particularly badly today, someone reboot pls

Drive Your Lover Wild In Bed By Cosplaying As Jeff Lynne (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:43 (seven years ago) link

Comey thought Trump was "crazy" so that probably also had something to do with it

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:44 (seven years ago) link

@ Treesh

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2012/05/14/nr-rand-paul-obama-gay.cnn

fucking makes my skin crawl

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:45 (seven years ago) link

(fuck rand paul, in case that wasn't clear)

k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:48 (seven years ago) link

ah, So u persecute Justin Amash just because he has different beliefs? Do Tell. (shakey gets mad at me) Sorry. Im sorry. Im trying to remove it

goole, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:49 (seven years ago) link

that vid not playing try this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wi7bmXFU70

(fuck rand paul, in case that wasn't clear)

oh i hear you. and he's prob not actually 'dumb', but just so undeservedly smug.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:50 (seven years ago) link

Haberman's got some good stuff today. First, state of play:

There is a shift in the senate, per ppl close to talks - concern moving among Rs to rip the Comey bandaid off quick before leg agenda sinks

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) May 17, 2017

They could subpoena quickly https://t.co/71VYCMr3oX

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) May 17, 2017

Second: she and Thrush were at the Coast Guard ceremony, and:

One friend/relative on bus line after ceremony complaining that potus was supposed to make the grads feel good. "Not tell us how he feels."

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) May 17, 2017

"It could have been worse," another man says. "I'm sure that's true," the first man says.

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) May 17, 2017

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:55 (seven years ago) link

it's too late to save their legislative agenda, there is no "quick resolution" to this

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link

esp when Trump's liable to make it worse within the next 24 hrs, as is his wont

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link

coast guard commencement speech roundup: http://taskandpurpose.com/trump-coast-guard-graduation-speech

mookieproof, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:02 (seven years ago) link

you get some occasional (and usually completely ineffectual) grandstanding against his party on some nat'l security shit (usually either motivated by privacy concerns or isolationism)

Oh, heavens. If Dem leaders did a little 'grandstanding' on some NS shit or privacy concerns, maybe i'd have a tad more respect for the party.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link

More profiles in courage!

"I’m not saying the news articles are wrong. I’m not saying that they are right," @marcorubio said, urging patience. https://t.co/2CneK29glw

— Alex Leary (@learyreports) May 17, 2017

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:10 (seven years ago) link

Meantime, how's that healthcare talk coming along

Hatch says he's open to keeping ACA's individual mandate via @axios https://t.co/R8m0Iylz5Z

— Glenn Kessler (@GlennKesslerWP) May 17, 2017

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:10 (seven years ago) link

2018 democratic congressional majority doesn't indict benedict donald and the lot of the koch/mercer/bradley/scaife/olin/coors/ALEC traitors in exchange for passing medicare / social security for all forever or gtfo

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link

Democrats will waste this leverage, guaranteed.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link

don't think we're gonna have a congressional majority that soon, even with the crazy shit going on now

k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link

Hm hm hm

Per @FEC filing: VP @mike_pence has formed a new political action committee, the "Great America Committee" https://t.co/oykOemLmn2

— Dave Levinthal (@davelevinthal) May 17, 2017

Per @rebeccaballhaus, this is a legal move to move Pence assets -- donor files, email lists -- from Indiana to the federal level. https://t.co/I73IDxoCIp

— Teddy Schleifer (@teddyschleifer) May 17, 2017

Probably means nothing...so far.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link

Not since Einstein

.@SenJohnMcCain reacts to reporters' string of questions on if a special prosecutor is needed to investigate Pres. Trump's ties to Russia pic.twitter.com/Xb8xbQWqp2

— Tom Williams (@pennstatetom) May 17, 2017

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:15 (seven years ago) link

don't think we're gonna have a congressional majority that soon, even with the crazy shit going on now

fwiw

3 generic ballots out this week: Democrats +8 avg. with an expanding lead. Even at this point, the poll question has been fairly predictive. pic.twitter.com/Yo8UNSW3Ke

— (((Harry Enten))) (@ForecasterEnten) May 17, 2017

iirc something like +4 D is consistent with taking back the house?

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link

Oh, heavens. If Dem leaders did a little 'grandstanding' on some NS shit or privacy concerns, maybe i'd have a tad more respect for the party.

you mean like when Pelosi voted against extending the Patriot Act

why do I even bother

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

yeah the house is the doable one since everyone is always up for re-election. but iirc the 2018 senate outlook is much bleaker? i'd love to be wrong

k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

senate is v unlikely bc way more dem seats up than rep

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link

Dems have p much no chance of taking the Senate in 2018, much less getting the 2/3rds required for impeachment. Which is why Trump will not be removed from office - the GOP in the Senate votes won't be there.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link

currently we're looking at a likely scenario of the GOP losing the House, which would mean impeachment proceedings that would then die in the Senate. Things could change, of course.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link

Dems have p much no chance of taking the Senate in 2018, much less getting the 2/3rds required for impeachment. Which is why Trump will not be removed from office - the GOP in the Senate votes won't be there.

if house flips that kills the GOP legislative agenda dead at which point if trump is completely toxic the calculus for keeping him / impeaching him changes. esp if they're killed in 2018 and get scared that it's bc of trump. better to rip that band-aid off.

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link

it seems significantly more likely that he'll just drop dead as opposed to resigning or getting tossed out.

evol j, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:25 (seven years ago) link

you never know. reagan's tax cuts might finally kick in, prosperity happily trickling down

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:27 (seven years ago) link

I can't remember if in early 2005 both House and Senate looked good for Dems. Someone give me data. I thought the House in 2006 was a given, but the S3nate a surprise.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link

Please don't mention trickling down in connection with Trump.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link

Republican contempt for the American people has never been so palpable

Violet Jynx, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link

esp if they're killed in 2018 and get scared that it's bc of trump. better to rip that band-aid off.

these guys don't do long-term planning. well, McConnell does I guess. But impeaching him with votes from his own party won't really do any good for their legislative agenda either - it will be an admission of defeat

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link

I can't remember if in early 2005 both House and Senate looked good for Dems. Someone give me data. I thought the House in 2006 was a given, but the S3nate a surprise.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:28 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Senate in 2006 flipped largely because George Allen called SR Sidarth "macaca" on camera.

softie (silby), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link

Tillerson: "No way to know" if Russians bugged Oval Office during meeting https://t.co/paGh8JdLl1 pic.twitter.com/UnAPaUDUY7

— The Hill (@thehill) May 17, 2017

it is a mystery

mookieproof, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link

Senate in 2006 flipped largely because George Allen called SR Sidarth "macaca" on camera.

One of my friends helped break this story to the press, btw

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:42 (seven years ago) link

Republican contempt for the American people has never been so palpable

― Violet Jynx, Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess your perspective depends on what color of American people you are.

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link

I can't remember a time when the GOP didn't show contempt for public.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:46 (seven years ago) link

it's kind of their schtick

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link

any republican senator who votes to remove trump from office is killing their future senatorial prospects dead. i'm not saying we won't get to the point where 20 or so republicans are willing to never eat lunch in dc again in order to get rid of him, but they have a pretty strong disincentive to throw the bum out.

Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link

I can't remember a time when the GOP didn't show contempt for public.

mid 19th century?

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link

btw Yam used "surety" in that Coast Guard speech

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link

hey c'mon he's not THAT old

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link

I can't remember the 19th century

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link

Spicer says Trump will interview JOE LIEBERMAN for FBI chief later today, along with 3 other candidates.

— Steven Portnoy (@stevenportnoy) May 17, 2017

yesssss

mookieproof, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link


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