Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

cosmos mark 2 was kind of pointless

dude is chummy with patrick stewart, no?

this is probably anathema on this thread, but is it okay to ask if patrick stewart is a normally intelligent person? he always seems like a genial dope to me, but i am not a fan exactly.

An actual trailer, who knew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dxe_ugmIVM

new Lady Gaga album cover? cool

something about this feels more babylon 5.

can't watch the discovery trailer (not for canada apparently) but i just watched the orville one, cool to see beverly from larry sanders show in there!

fuckin lens flares, really?

idk doesn't looks terrible to me

So fucking irritated that this is going to be on their proprietary streaming service. I literally watch NOTHING on CBS.

May have to dust off my t0rrentz client.

Looks kind of good. The trailer is paced like a summer movie - I'm assuming the show will be allowed to breathe a bit.

this is probably anathema on this thread, but is it okay to ask if patrick stewart is a normally intelligent person? he always seems like a genial dope to me, but i am not a fan exactly.

I remember that he had a reputation for being a prima donna and also he referred to himself in the third person when that was a thing.

reading the next 25 years, his input at the time of TNG was that he wanted the captain to shoot and fuck more. they wrote him a die hard episode in season 6 just to placate him.

i think patrick stewart seems to have chilled out a lot over the last 10 years or so - from interviews i've read he seems to acknowledge that he was an uptight prick through at least the shooting of the first season of tng

a combination of counselling through his anger about having an abusive childhood and coming to terms with the realisation that his dad suffered from undiagnosed ptsd from wwii seems to have allowed him to become the chill brooklyn-dwelling stoner (and best bro of ian mckellen) that he is now

having said that, fuck him for looking better at 76 than i ever have or ever will

lol

Every time I netflix the original series episode, I end up fast forawrding at about the 7 min mark - that shoudl could have been much shorter

. We returned home - we baked sponge cakes - lots of junk food and called injustice to the people who got it - like they did not get along with them so shocked. They do not get the same thing that they are very shocked.

https://68.media.tumblr.com/f1f39c326eda2f768efb879bdf703797/tumblr_or8f1s9dMq1vaqoiqo1_500.gif

Uh, okay.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/star-trek-discoverys-main-character-has-suddenly-becom-1797161552

During the panel, Sonequa Martin-Green revealed that her character, First Officer Michael Burnham, is actually the adoptive daughter of Sarek and Amanda—that’s right, Spock’s parents. According to Martin-Green, Sarek and Amanda took Burnham in after her parents were killed and she was raised on Vulcan. Sarek is also the one who committed her to Captain Philippa Georgiou, which explains their connection and relationship.

This essentially means that Michael Burnham is Spock’s adoptive sister, which raises a lot of questions: The main one is how we went an entire series, several movies, and two universes without Spock ever mentioning he had a sister. It seems unlike Spock to completely ignore someone who seemed to be a major part of his life—especially one who came into his life after such tragedy.

At the Star Trek: Discovery panel, producer Alex Kurtzman promised there actually is a really good explanation for how Michael disappeared out of Spock’s life so completely, which will keep Trek’s canon in tact. Unfortunately, they’re keeping that explanation to themselves.

“We’re aware [of the situation],” Kurtzman said during the panel. “You’ll see where it’s going, but we are staying consistent with canon.”

Anyway, full new trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC7IMj7WFyE

(And, unmysteriously, a new trailer for that Orville thing. Maybe we should be glad he didn't just remake GalaxyQuest?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMKECRnZe2U

Borrowing a plot device from Star Trek V isn't the greatest of ideas.

i've had to unfollow all the trek FB pages i follow because of how awful the comments for discovery are. and cue the predictable "lol orville looks better than discovery" from pasty whitebread fucktards

I think we all know what Orville is, regardless of how the production value looks

shoot PWFs out of a canon

see what i did there

nope

what's "pwf" in this context?

see my post

oh duh, thanks

I can't say that this looks good, but then who cares since I won't be able to watch it anyway lol

had no idea this feat.ed dwight as harry mudd

wtf

http://tomandlorenzo.com/2017/07/gucci-sci-fi-fall-2017-campaign-fashion/

that's pretty rad imo

fuck gucci has been so amazing lately

That Discovery trailer looks like hot garbage. (So does Orville.)

Never thought Neelix would end up in a Gucci editorial. http://tomandlorenzo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Gucci-FW17AC-Fashion-Tom-Lorenzo-Site-9.jpg

Even less so a Gorn.
http://tomandlorenzo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Gucci-FW17AC-Fashion-Tom-Lorenzo-Site-17.jpg

saw the TOS episode yesterday with Liberace. i was surprised by how good his acting was! he was a perfect fit for the always fun petulant-Godlike-being-antagonizes-Enterprise-out-of-boredom storyline. the episode reminded me a lot of that first Q episode from TNG, he even put Kirk on trial and everything. also this ep features Uhura jamming out on a real harpsichord <3

musta been a good actor because he wasn't liberace!

Q was created by Roddenberry as time filler to screw another writer out of some of their royalties in the TNG pilot. wouldn't surprise me if he was thinking of that TOS episode.

Weird/funny/sad story about Shatner's assistant going rogue on his twitter account:

http://www.collegehumor.com/post/7038295/william-shatner-twitter-wtf

The actor who played the Squire of Gothos, William Campbell, also starred in Francis Coppola's first film Dementia 13. He played a Klingon captain in the tribble episode later. My dad knew him growing up in Newark.

Weird thing was I hadn't known or forgotten about the other guy who just died who had played two different Star Trek TOS characters, one in "The Way To Eden" and the other on the Nazi Germany episode.

Q was created by Roddenberry as time filler to screw another writer out of some of their royalties in the TNG pilot.

and Q is the only good thing in the pilot. was the episode really just gonna focus on the mystery of farpoint station for a full hour and a half?

the pilot is a total catastrophe from beginning to end, it's a real anti-achievement

i like the jim henson space jellyfish at the end.

they really thought the old evil guy at farpoint would be the recurring character and not q.

(not actually henson, they just remind me of the mahna mahna twins)

and Q is the only good thing in the pilot. was the episode really just gonna focus on the mystery of farpoint station for a full hour and a half?

The pilot was originally supposed to be a regular 45 minute episode, and D.C. Fontana wrote the original script (which indeed was only about the Farpoint mystery) accordingly. But Paramount insisted the pilot should be feature-length, so Roddenberry added the Q subplot to it. I agree that it's fairly dull, and obviously both the Fontana and Roddenberry plots were based on ideas which had been done in sci-fi (including Star Trek) many times before. Arguably John de Lancie's magnificent scenery-chewing, and his chemistry with Patrick Stewart, was the real reason Q became such a success. If a less suitable actor had been cast in the role, I could imagine they might've never wanted to visit Q again.

Things u learn about on stack overflow: Michael Dorn owns and flies fighter jets.

MD: It’s a dream come true. I was always a student of airplanes and aviation since I was a kid . What happened was that we had a writer’s strike after the first year of ‘Star Trek’ so we had five months off, and a guy I knew that was a pilot said come on, we’ve got to do this . You’ve got to go out there. I said you’re right. I went out there–took my introductory flight and I was hooked. Nobody could find me during the day because I was out at the airport flying. Then, to make a long story just a little bit longer, during, I think, the third or fourth season of ‘Star Trek’, one of the producers on ‘Cheers’ called me and they said that Woody Harrelson was invited to fly out with the Blue Angels, but he couldn’t do it. Do you want to go? So I flew out. They pulled me out there. I had a twin engine Cessna in between the F-18’s and parked it there. Of course, I’m the coolest guy in the world, and so when I flew with them it was eye opening. I discovered that you could own these airplanes. So I started researching it , the rules and regulations and what’s available, and all these airplanes were available for pretty cheap. So, I took my time, learned how to fly, and I went through the same type of process the air force pilots go through. And got to the F-86 and it just kinda happened. It was amazing.

that is badass, way to go worf