Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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This all needs to stop before something even more catastrophic happens.

Treeship, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:13 (seven years ago) link

scariest sentence in the haberman / thrush piece ~

There is a fear among some of Mr. Trump's senior advisers about leaving him alone in meetings with foreign leaders out of concern he might speak out of turn.

i mean, for fuck's sake

let's run government like a business, guys! tax cuts for everyone (who inherited money)!

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:13 (seven years ago) link

This all needs to stop before something even more catastrophic happens.

unfortunately, it seems pretty likely that some kind of catastrophe is going to happen on Trump's watch, possibly due to Trump's own behavior. What that is and who will suffer is impossible to say.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:15 (seven years ago) link

Roger Stone, one of President Donald Trump’s oldest and closest advisers outside the White House believes the Trump presidency is in great danger from within. Appearing in a bizarre outdoor YouTube video with InfoWars founder and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, Stone said that Trump enemies were going to claim that his recent leaking of classified information to senior Russian officials was evidence of Alzheimers. In that vein, Stone also said that his cabinet might even seek to remove him.

“They are going to claim that Donald Trump has Alzheimers … and that is the source of his insanity,” said Stone, who added that he spoke to Trump “fairly recently” and that there was “no evidence” of any mental deterioration. “This is completely bogus,” he said. Stone warned that if the Alzheimers narrative took hold, it would provide a pretext for Trump’s cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment to the Constitution and remove him from office. “They could not beat him at the ballot box,” Stone railed “So now they seek to remove him by claiming that he is insane.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/roger-stone-trump-critics-preparing-to-pounce-on-president-with-charges-of-alzheimers/

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:16 (seven years ago) link

It's only been four months.

Treeship, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:16 (seven years ago) link

Trump has syphilis???

That would surprise you would it?

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:17 (seven years ago) link

There are 44 more. Possibly 92 more.

Treeship, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:17 (seven years ago) link

stone sounds like he's actually prepping the dementia narrative, not shooting it down. "who said alzheimers? wait, what?"

akm, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:19 (seven years ago) link

Ha, you guys

This administration is like "hey, wouldn't it be fun if LIFE were basically an ILE election day/presidential debate thread ALL THE TIME?"

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:19 (seven years ago) link

The only people I've heard say Alzheimer's before that were Chapo people.

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:19 (seven years ago) link

I hope he is right and that happens. Pence et al are loathsome but Trump being in office is an imminent crisis.

Treeship, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:20 (seven years ago) link

cbo estimate on ahca comes out while he's on tour. without him around to straight up lie on tv about its consequences it will be harder for the GOP to defend.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:20 (seven years ago) link

and tweeting rants/sail from the shitter/below pale stooks of hair

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:20 (seven years ago) link

Make Alzheimer's Great Again

leprechaundriac (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link

He definitely has some kind of mental deterioration. It might just be caused by sleep deprivation but he just isn't able to think straight.

Treeship, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:22 (seven years ago) link

trying to imagine a) who in history has had so many contemporaries think one is colossally stupid b) who in history is less equipped to handle such a situation

Toward the end of his life Charles' fragile health deteriorated and he became increasingly hypersensitive and strange, at one point demanding that the bodies of his family be exhumed so he could look upon the corpses. He officially retired when he had a nervous breakdown caused by the amount of pressure put on him to try to pull Spain out of the economic trouble it was going through. He lived a simple life from then on, playing games and other activities. He died in Madrid on 1 November 1700 (the 39th death anniversary of his immediate elder brother), five days before his 39th birthday. The physician who performed his autopsy stated that his body "did not contain a single drop of blood; his heart was the size of a peppercorn; his lungs corroded; his intestines rotten and gangrenous; he had a single testicle, black as coal, and his head was full of water."

Number None, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:22 (seven years ago) link

his body "did not contain a single drop of blood; his heart was the size of a peppercorn; his lungs corroded; his intestines rotten and gangrenous; he had a single testicle, black as coal, and his head was full of water."

Trump's medical report.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:23 (seven years ago) link

The only people I've heard say Alzheimer's before that were Chapo people.

it's def been discussed elsewhere a few times that i've seen, particularly with reference to reagan's health in office

his body "did not contain a single drop of blood; his heart was the size of a peppercorn; his lungs corroded; his intestines rotten and gangrenous; he had a single testicle, black as coal, and his head was full of water."

same

does stone want to set up a showdown between trump and the 'deep state' to rally supporters, anticipating the rise of the alzheimers narrative?

chinavision!, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link

And here we go

BREAKING from NYT: Trump asked Comey to shut down Mike Flynn investigation, Comey memo says. Wow. https://t.co/wtk1Do6dTd

— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) May 16, 2017

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:27 (seven years ago) link

Basically explaining that NYT dude and Lawfare guy's tweets.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:28 (seven years ago) link

jings

his body "did not contain a single drop of blood; his heart was the size of a peppercorn; his lungs corroded; his intestines rotten and gangrenous; he had a single testicle, black as coal, and his head was full of water."

an excerpt from an earlier, gothier version of "A Visit from St. Nicholas"

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:28 (seven years ago) link

damn you -- you beat me

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:28 (seven years ago) link

pareene had a good short thread on the way the dementia issue is handled

At this point it's almost universally acknowledged that Trump's cognitive deficiencies have to be managed around but you can't just say that

— slackbot (@pareene) May 15, 2017

xp lol

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:30 (seven years ago) link

President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo that Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting.

“I hope you can let this go,” the president told Mr. Comey, according to the memo.

The existence of Mr. Trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the Justice Department and F.B.I. investigation into links between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russia.

Mr. Comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after Mr. Flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo. The memo was part of a paper trail Mr. Comey created documenting what he perceived as the president’s improper efforts to influence an ongoing investigation. An F.B.I. agent’s contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations.

Mr. Comey shared the existence of the memo with senior F.B.I. officials and close associates. The New York Times has not viewed a copy of the memo, which is unclassified, but one of Mr. Comey’s associates read parts of the memo to a Times reporter.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:30 (seven years ago) link

that Comey memo looks like air-tight obstruction of justice evidence

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:30 (seven years ago) link

Nothing that has happened yet rises to the level of a catastrophe, Treesh, other than the general catastrophe of the nation being saddled with a wildly incompetent head of state for the foreseeable future. This bodes very ill, but we'll have to wait before we see the full catastrophe emerge out of Trump's incontinence.

Until then, he is hedged in somewhat by the system he was elected into and the survival instincts of people like McConnell. It will be a battle to see whether the other powerful people in government can contain the damage Trump does to manageable levels. There's a fighting chance they can, but it's impossible to imagine how the next 44 months play out.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:30 (seven years ago) link

Mr. Comey created similar memos — including some that are classified — about every phone call and meeting he had with the president, the two people said. It is unclear whether Mr. Comey told the Justice Department about the conversation or his memos.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:31 (seven years ago) link

There were tweets/posts last week saying Comey was pretty thorough when it came to paper trails/memo/CYA procedures. Two to one says this will be the opening salvo.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:31 (seven years ago) link

[Charles II of Spain](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_Spain), thanks to Spanish Hapsburg inbreeding, is another contender for a colossally stupid leader from history.

I'm having a hard time finding similar contenders among democracies. Ideologically hobbled, sure, but just plain incompetent? Elections usually weed them out.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:32 (seven years ago) link

But Comey wrote the memo. There's no proof what he wrote is accurate. This is yet another 'who cares' moment. It makes no difference. Without a recording or without it in Trumps handwriting, it won't matter.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:32 (seven years ago) link

xp: Oops I was late with Charles.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:33 (seven years ago) link

What the line?

"Do you see the method in my madness?"

"I can't see any method, sir."

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:34 (seven years ago) link

An F.B.I. agent’s contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations.

and that goes, traditionally, for Congress too. This paper trail is going to be a real headache for the GOP congress

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:34 (seven years ago) link

lmao this idiot

goole, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:34 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_-oKRSUwAA9rGs.jpg

mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:35 (seven years ago) link

Trump better hope there are no "tapes" of their conversations!!!

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:35 (seven years ago) link

This bodes very ill, but we'll have to wait before we see the full catastrophe emerge out of Trump's incontinence.

This pee tape wasn't what I was expecting at all!

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:35 (seven years ago) link

It makes no difference...it won't matter.

I have to think that when a director of the FBI testifies that what he wrote is accurate it will "matter". It might not take him out, but he'll be badly wounded.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:36 (seven years ago) link

a text from a Hill Republican: "how can this go on for another 3+ years"

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) May 16, 2017

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:36 (seven years ago) link

hope he answered "you tell me"

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:37 (seven years ago) link

Hill Republican OTM

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:37 (seven years ago) link

PISS TAPE PISS TAPE PISS TAPE

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:37 (seven years ago) link

But Comey wrote the memo. There's no proof what he wrote is accurate. This is yet another 'who cares' moment. It makes no difference. Without a recording or without it in Trumps handwriting, it won't matter.

Comey wants to testify to Congress in the open, as has been reported for a couple of days now. If asked, under oath, he will confirm what's been reported. If you don't think that will have an impact, well...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:38 (seven years ago) link

yeah Comey was there boy - he put Trump in the White House! Him turning on Trump, with credible evidence to back it up, is going to make things v v difficult for GOP in congress

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:38 (seven years ago) link

"their" argh

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:38 (seven years ago) link

Man.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:39 (seven years ago) link

IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER — Congress can subpoena these memos from Comey.

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) May 16, 2017

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:39 (seven years ago) link


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