Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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lib tears and racism is everything

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:40 (seven years ago) link

A cargo cult is a millenarian movement first described in Melanesia which encompasses a range of practices and occurs in the wake of contact with more technologically advanced societies. The name derives from the belief which began among Melanesians in the late 19th and early 20th century that various ritualistic acts such as the building of an airplane runway will result in the appearance of material wealth, particularly highly desirable Western goods (i.e., "cargo"), via Western airplanes.[1][2]

baby boomer death wave (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:41 (seven years ago) link

i don't think there's anything wrong with me feeling anger and hatred towards people who are hurting my loved ones. it's not the most pleasant experience in the world, but if i didn't feel those things, if i was able to forgive those who perpetrate malicious acts with neither regret nor remorse, any "love" i might claim to possess for the victims of these acts would be toothless and without value.

i still tell myself that i am, at any time, willing to forgive, contingent on the supporters admitting they have made a mistake. this seems like a theoretical concern. trump supporters will die, literally, before admitting their mistakes.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:41 (seven years ago) link

xxp and racism, yeah. conservatives venerate law enforcement when they're shooting black men or deporting all those lazy illegals.

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:42 (seven years ago) link

Ditto his insulting of mccain. This will always be a mystery to me.

Yesterday someone warned me not to speak ill of trump around someone else -- someone who i like and respect a great deal -- bc they are "very conservative."

Like, fine, be conservative -- this person seems traditional, which is a way to be, ok. But how does this translate into support for trump?

Treeship, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link

Self xpost

Treeship, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link

that should be a bat signal to speak mad ill of trump

nomar, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link

lmao at the law firm "confirming" that Trump has no Russia investments just so happening to have been named Russia's law firm of the year in 2016

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:45 (seven years ago) link

Might have said this before but dont republicans venerate law enforcement? Shouldnt some trump voters be turned off by his flagrantly disrespectful treatment of comey? Why do they place veneration of trump above their other arbitrary values?

― Treeship, Friday, May 12, 2017 10:39 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Again, tribalism. The values they espouse are basically a decorative façade atop their core tenet: anything we do is awesome, anything they do is shit. The judgment of a given act is entirely relative to the affiliation of the actor in question.

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:51 (seven years ago) link

Will is spot on: "lib tears and racism is everything."

How many threads and how many thousands of posts dedicated to figuring out Trump? Countless, but it really does all come down to those six words. Unfortunately we can't just leave it there and rest silent forevermore, because where's the fun in that?

Also Lunch otm

between the tall buildings are snow-coated alleys (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:54 (seven years ago) link

Yeah.

I guess it doesn't matter, it's just deeply disturbing to learn normal people -- nice people -- are trump supporters.

Donald Trump is a sexual predator.

Treeship, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:54 (seven years ago) link

Anyone else remember the scene in The Room where Tommy Wiseau's character says "I show them...I record everything."

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link

YOU'RE TEARING ME APAAAAAAAART COMEY

baby boomer death wave (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:59 (seven years ago) link

lib tears and racism and upper bracket tax cuts is everything

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:05 (seven years ago) link

A telling report re angst:

https://www.axios.com/trumps-comey-fight-spooks-capitol-hill-2404656591.html

Specifically:

White House is careening between crisis after crisis. "We need our asset out there every day barnstorming for tax reform, health care," the senate aide said.

Would love to see the look on Trump's face if someone told him Senatorial GOP staff consider him their 'asset.'

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 May 2017 16:06 (seven years ago) link

Asshat.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 May 2017 16:07 (seven years ago) link

lol @ wiseau political compass

sexualing healing (crüt), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:09 (seven years ago) link

lib tears and racism and upper bracket tax cuts is everything

true that. but in terms of the sheer numbers of these clowns (Trump's 35% floor) you're talking about a very tiny slice of the pie. but a disturbingly powerful slice.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:12 (seven years ago) link

Emmett Rensin: If he's so dumb, why can't the Democrats outsmart him?

For 30 years, the Democratic Party sold itself as the last bulwark against slightly dumber managers of our imperial decline. Now, faced with a real incarnation of that fantasy, a Republican leader who even Aaron Sorkin would rewrite for lack of subtlety, they have transformed themselves into underdogs, racing to save the world from an evil genius.

The reasons for all of this become far clearer when you recall that, of course, nobody in a position of power in Washington really gives a shit about the Russians. They really don’t. Beyond vague feelings that undefined tampering in our elections is bad, nobody can tell you what, precisely, Trump has done or even could do on the level of material policy that benefits Vladimir Putin, except those things that the Republican Party was going to do anyway....

https://theoutline.com/post/1524/the-crushing-idiocy-of-donald-trump

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:15 (seven years ago) link

If he's so dumb, why can't the Democrats outsmart him?

(a) Dems don't control the Hill

(b) Watch moron keep damaging himself.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:16 (seven years ago) link

It's always the Dems' fault

pickety third (stevie), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link

i would like to hear more about what kinds of organizing/groundwork the dems are doing to actually secure power in 2018. not saying it isn't happening i just haven't heard much about it. i see a "blistering" perez statement here and there but i don't know what strategy they have to contest races next year

marcos, Friday, 12 May 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link

singing "Na Na Hey Hey" was a lil more proactive than that. Doing nothing wd be an improvement. xxp

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:22 (seven years ago) link

https://swingleft.org/

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 May 2017 16:23 (seven years ago) link

"Might have said this before but dont republicans venerate law enforcement? Shouldnt some trump voters be turned off by his flagrantly disrespectful treatment of comey?"

they are the world's biggest hypocrites. it's like a christian on sunday kinda thing. moral outrage when they feel like it. when it suits their own prejudices/fears/etc.

scott seward, Friday, 12 May 2017 16:29 (seven years ago) link

Trump probably had to often be reminded during poker that the face of the card should be facing him.

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link

I'm kinda wondering if this is gonna be Spicer's last day

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link

Emmett Rensin: If he's so dumb, why can't the Democrats outsmart him?

because the american public consists of fucking morons and dont respond to reasonable arguments?

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link

otm

20-lol pileup (WilliamC), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:37 (seven years ago) link

not going to re-litigate 2016. not going to re-litigate 2016.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:39 (seven years ago) link

yeah, we all know the answer is Nominate Someone Better

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:40 (seven years ago) link

I would also add the media and politicians to the list of idiots above

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:41 (seven years ago) link

looool

https://www.facebook.com/lisa.kadonaga/posts/10210450624714179

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2017 16:43 (seven years ago) link

I blame Starkville and The Judds

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:43 (seven years ago) link

okay, why are we still doing the thing where we call anybody who doesn't make their political decisions on a reasonable and dispassionate policy basis "stupid"? what is this, reddit?

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:48 (seven years ago) link

btw Trump confirming that Comey is gonna start "leaking to the press" is pretty amazing, if he hadn't already shot both feet off this morning we might be asking "what do you think he's gonna leak, Donnie boy?"

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link

a documentary about the trump administration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNxoXJkMeiw

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:57 (seven years ago) link

Trump has an 84% approval rating among the GOP, Trump can continue this shit as long as that number holds up

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:03 (seven years ago) link

84% is pretty low given he's only been in for 4 months, isn't it?

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:05 (seven years ago) link

the biggest risk right now is if he has a stroke or something. the complete inability of the administration to reach anything resembling a stable equilibrium hurts and will keep hurting.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 12 May 2017 17:08 (seven years ago) link

Senate Judiciary GOP & DEM leaders want briefings on the Russia investigation from Deputy AG Rosenstein and Acting FBI Director McCabe pic.twitter.com/4NoOSiT475

— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) May 12, 2017

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link

follow the money as Hal Holbrook said

• A member of the firm that developed the Trump SoHo Hotel in New York is a twice-convicted felon who spent a year in prison for stabbing a man and later scouted for Trump investments in Russia.

• An investor in the SoHo project was accused by Belgian authorities in 2011 in a $55 million money-laundering scheme.

• Three owners of Trump condos in Florida and Manhattan were accused in federal indictments of belonging to a Russian-American organized crime group and working for a major international crime boss based in Russia.

• A former mayor from Kazakhstan was accused in a federal lawsuit filed in Los Angeles in 2014 of hiding millions of dollars looted from his city, some of which was spent on three Trump SoHo units.

• A Ukrainian owner of two Trump condos in Florida was indicted in a money-laundering scheme involving a former prime minister of Ukraine.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55048/trump-russia-finances/

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 May 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link

Trump has an 84% approval rating among the GOP, Trump can continue this shit as long as that number holds up

People keep saying this, and it does matter, but it also matters that his approval rating among Democrats is lower than anybody else's ever. He won his election, in part, because some Democrats and Dem-leaning independents voted for him. They won't do that again.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 12 May 2017 17:25 (seven years ago) link

@tinyrevolution
We can be 98% sure Trump didn't collude with Russia because if he had he'd have already blurted it out to show how smart he is

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 May 2017 17:29 (seven years ago) link

lol

A source close to Comey told me this morning: “He hopes there are tapes. That would be perfect.”

— Ken Dilanian (@KenDilanianNBC) May 12, 2017

j., Friday, 12 May 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

joshinchicago, you made me loll btw

you're talking about a very tiny slice of the pie. but a disturbingly powerful slice.

Their disproportionate power comes from the fact that the live and vote in extremely homogenous districts.

This means that their representatives live in quivering fear of Red-Hat wrath. (This holds even truer even when those congresspeople are, themselves, Red-Hatted.)

Personally I don't care whether what takes T. down is Russia, Rwanda, or Rhode Island. Just want him embarrassed and hampered and thwarted.

between the tall buildings are snow-coated alleys (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 May 2017 17:36 (seven years ago) link


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