Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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but loans aren't reported and that's where the interest would be

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 12 May 2017 14:45 (seven years ago) link

fair enough!

xp

jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 12 May 2017 14:45 (seven years ago) link

are the 35% still crowing about "boy, he sure is pissing off those liberals"?

yes, with few exceptions

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 12 May 2017 14:47 (seven years ago) link

snl better do a sketch where sarah huckabee comes out to the podium drunk and holding a glass of wine and cigarette. because that's what i keep thinking i'm gonna see in real life.

scott seward, Friday, 12 May 2017 14:48 (seven years ago) link

Here's a thing I've been thinking lately, spurred in part by that tweetstorm about how people are disarmed by Trump because they don't have the cognitive tools for dealing with someone who operates like him: the reason a good conman is successful is that he gains the mark's confidence, he undertakes the con, and he gets the hell outta Dodge. People will only continue to be baffled by his MO for so long because continued exposure to the mechanics of the con only serves to illuminate its status as a con. He has no exit strategy so he has to just keep shucking and jiving and hoping that people don't start to see through the only tool he has in his box. But lots of people are starting to see right the fuck through it. What that will ultimately portend, who knows. If the GOP, in their unceasing support of a president the majority of the country sees as a complete fraud, get absolutely slaughtered in 2018, that might be good enough for me.

i dunno, i think a decent chunk of the electorate are mostly happy to be conned as long as their material circumstances don't change too much and there's a handful of groups to which they can feel superior (political opponents, foreigners, etc)

america's economy can likely coast along for long enough without a competent hand at the tiller that it could be a long, long time before the complacent start to feel like trump has pulled the wool over their eyes

baby boomer death wave (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 14:49 (seven years ago) link

My hatereading of trumpazoid online discourse is still 99.5% "draining the swamp" / "sticking it to the media" / "driving libs crazy," so yeah.

between the tall buildings are snow-coated alleys (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 May 2017 14:51 (seven years ago) link

xpost Yes, my de-Trumpgramming supposition extends only to those who aren't among the diehard, dues-paying Cult of Donnie. I'm hoping they'll all bite down on their cyanide capsules at the appointed time like the faithful acolytes they are.

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 May 2017 14:57 (seven years ago) link

serve them the *best* Kool-Aid

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link

can't be any worse than trump wine

baby boomer death wave (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:02 (seven years ago) link

i wd serve the same to Keith Olbermann btw, the looniest of the anti-Yam MSMers (unless L Mensch counts)

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:04 (seven years ago) link

boy, i would _hate_ it if they were all to kill themselves. it would make me so angry! (this is not a lie, i'd seriously be super pissed if trump supporters decided to commit mass suicide.)

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:07 (seven years ago) link

imagine a world without stephen baldwin, i dare u

baby boomer death wave (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:08 (seven years ago) link

fuck joseph goebbels forever

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:08 (seven years ago) link

meanwhile, with 'friends' like Dianne...

"If single-payer health care is going to mean complete takeover by the government of all health care,” the California Democrat said, “I am not there.”

A week later, Feinstein was even further from there, benefitting from a fundraising event at the Washington, D.C., office of Avenue Solutions, a lobbying firm that represents major health insurers, pharmaceutical companies and the primary trade association for doctors. The industries have historically opposed efforts to create a universal, government-run health care system -- an idea supported by 58 percent of U.S. adults. Feinstein supporters at the event were expected to kick in $1,000 to $5,000 for her re-election bid.

http://maplight.org/content/dianne-feinstein-raising-money-from-health-care-lobbyists-after-dismissing-single-payer

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:08 (seven years ago) link

does feinstein think that if the government took over healthcare she'd be constantly called away from congress to perform heart bypass surgeries or something

baby boomer death wave (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:11 (seven years ago) link

From a certain angle, I've viewed the rise of Trumpism as a kind of moral test. Because I've found myself wishing things upon him and his supporters that I've never wished upon other human beings, so I have to question whether that makes me less ethically upstanding than I'd previously thought myself...or whether cheering on the demise of a subset of the species which seems wholly unconcerned about whether any living thing on the planet thrives or survives is maybe a profoundly moral stance. It's a pickle, to be sure.

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:14 (seven years ago) link

mmm pickle

baby boomer death wave (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:15 (seven years ago) link

this moral pickle seems so long ago

this is as patriotic as I've felt in a long time pic.twitter.com/yiVxd8semM

— dam dan (@prttybadtweeter) January 21, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:18 (seven years ago) link

Might have said this before but dont republicans venerate law enforcement? Shouldnt some trump voters be turned off by his flagrantly disrespectful treatment of comey? Why do they place veneration of trump above their other arbitrary values?

Treeship, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:39 (seven years ago) link

Trump voters think Comey is the only reason Hillary isn't in the electric chair right now

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:40 (seven years ago) link

lib tears and racism is everything

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:40 (seven years ago) link

A cargo cult is a millenarian movement first described in Melanesia which encompasses a range of practices and occurs in the wake of contact with more technologically advanced societies. The name derives from the belief which began among Melanesians in the late 19th and early 20th century that various ritualistic acts such as the building of an airplane runway will result in the appearance of material wealth, particularly highly desirable Western goods (i.e., "cargo"), via Western airplanes.[1][2]

baby boomer death wave (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:41 (seven years ago) link

i don't think there's anything wrong with me feeling anger and hatred towards people who are hurting my loved ones. it's not the most pleasant experience in the world, but if i didn't feel those things, if i was able to forgive those who perpetrate malicious acts with neither regret nor remorse, any "love" i might claim to possess for the victims of these acts would be toothless and without value.

i still tell myself that i am, at any time, willing to forgive, contingent on the supporters admitting they have made a mistake. this seems like a theoretical concern. trump supporters will die, literally, before admitting their mistakes.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:41 (seven years ago) link

xxp and racism, yeah. conservatives venerate law enforcement when they're shooting black men or deporting all those lazy illegals.

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:42 (seven years ago) link

Ditto his insulting of mccain. This will always be a mystery to me.

Yesterday someone warned me not to speak ill of trump around someone else -- someone who i like and respect a great deal -- bc they are "very conservative."

Like, fine, be conservative -- this person seems traditional, which is a way to be, ok. But how does this translate into support for trump?

Treeship, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link

Self xpost

Treeship, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link

that should be a bat signal to speak mad ill of trump

nomar, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link

lmao at the law firm "confirming" that Trump has no Russia investments just so happening to have been named Russia's law firm of the year in 2016

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:45 (seven years ago) link

Might have said this before but dont republicans venerate law enforcement? Shouldnt some trump voters be turned off by his flagrantly disrespectful treatment of comey? Why do they place veneration of trump above their other arbitrary values?

― Treeship, Friday, May 12, 2017 10:39 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Again, tribalism. The values they espouse are basically a decorative façade atop their core tenet: anything we do is awesome, anything they do is shit. The judgment of a given act is entirely relative to the affiliation of the actor in question.

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:51 (seven years ago) link

Will is spot on: "lib tears and racism is everything."

How many threads and how many thousands of posts dedicated to figuring out Trump? Countless, but it really does all come down to those six words. Unfortunately we can't just leave it there and rest silent forevermore, because where's the fun in that?

Also Lunch otm

between the tall buildings are snow-coated alleys (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:54 (seven years ago) link

Yeah.

I guess it doesn't matter, it's just deeply disturbing to learn normal people -- nice people -- are trump supporters.

Donald Trump is a sexual predator.

Treeship, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:54 (seven years ago) link

Anyone else remember the scene in The Room where Tommy Wiseau's character says "I show them...I record everything."

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link

YOU'RE TEARING ME APAAAAAAAART COMEY

baby boomer death wave (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:59 (seven years ago) link

lib tears and racism and upper bracket tax cuts is everything

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:05 (seven years ago) link

A telling report re angst:

https://www.axios.com/trumps-comey-fight-spooks-capitol-hill-2404656591.html

Specifically:

White House is careening between crisis after crisis. "We need our asset out there every day barnstorming for tax reform, health care," the senate aide said.

Would love to see the look on Trump's face if someone told him Senatorial GOP staff consider him their 'asset.'

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 May 2017 16:06 (seven years ago) link

Asshat.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 May 2017 16:07 (seven years ago) link

lol @ wiseau political compass

sexualing healing (crüt), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:09 (seven years ago) link

lib tears and racism and upper bracket tax cuts is everything

true that. but in terms of the sheer numbers of these clowns (Trump's 35% floor) you're talking about a very tiny slice of the pie. but a disturbingly powerful slice.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:12 (seven years ago) link

Emmett Rensin: If he's so dumb, why can't the Democrats outsmart him?

For 30 years, the Democratic Party sold itself as the last bulwark against slightly dumber managers of our imperial decline. Now, faced with a real incarnation of that fantasy, a Republican leader who even Aaron Sorkin would rewrite for lack of subtlety, they have transformed themselves into underdogs, racing to save the world from an evil genius.

The reasons for all of this become far clearer when you recall that, of course, nobody in a position of power in Washington really gives a shit about the Russians. They really don’t. Beyond vague feelings that undefined tampering in our elections is bad, nobody can tell you what, precisely, Trump has done or even could do on the level of material policy that benefits Vladimir Putin, except those things that the Republican Party was going to do anyway....

https://theoutline.com/post/1524/the-crushing-idiocy-of-donald-trump

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:15 (seven years ago) link

If he's so dumb, why can't the Democrats outsmart him?

(a) Dems don't control the Hill

(b) Watch moron keep damaging himself.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:16 (seven years ago) link

It's always the Dems' fault

pickety third (stevie), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link

i would like to hear more about what kinds of organizing/groundwork the dems are doing to actually secure power in 2018. not saying it isn't happening i just haven't heard much about it. i see a "blistering" perez statement here and there but i don't know what strategy they have to contest races next year

marcos, Friday, 12 May 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link

singing "Na Na Hey Hey" was a lil more proactive than that. Doing nothing wd be an improvement. xxp

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:22 (seven years ago) link

https://swingleft.org/

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 May 2017 16:23 (seven years ago) link

"Might have said this before but dont republicans venerate law enforcement? Shouldnt some trump voters be turned off by his flagrantly disrespectful treatment of comey?"

they are the world's biggest hypocrites. it's like a christian on sunday kinda thing. moral outrage when they feel like it. when it suits their own prejudices/fears/etc.

scott seward, Friday, 12 May 2017 16:29 (seven years ago) link

Trump probably had to often be reminded during poker that the face of the card should be facing him.

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 May 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link

I'm kinda wondering if this is gonna be Spicer's last day

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link


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