Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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I don't buy it, soap operas are hugely popular and have zero emotional stakes because their plotlines endlessly rewrite their own past in order to maintain fan service

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 May 2017 11:52 (six years ago) link

*golf clap*

PRESIDENT STEAMPUNK J. BRAINSTEM (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 12:00 (six years ago) link

i wish i had the required video skills to create a return of the jedi finale where luke pops off vader's helmet and is greeted by a wheezing phil mitchell

PRESIDENT STEAMPUNK J. BRAINSTEM (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 12:02 (six years ago) link

supreme leader snoke turns out to be a digital recreation of hilda ogden

PRESIDENT STEAMPUNK J. BRAINSTEM (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 12:07 (six years ago) link

For all the abuse the Guardian gets, I don't think it has ever scraped these levels:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/business-39896838/a-cheaper-tastier-way-to-eat-lunch-at-work

How making a sandwich rather than buying a pre-packed one is a "life hack".

The idea came to me when I went to buy my usual lunch on my work break. I could buy my same old sandwich... OR... all the ingredients are in the supermarket for me to construct my own one."

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:11 (six years ago) link

mmm tasty

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:15 (six years ago) link

sounds so close to lg in full satire mode that really theres no point anymore

spud called maris (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:16 (six years ago) link

Graun really desperate to get some of that lunch money right?

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:18 (six years ago) link

whilst at the same time making a very convincing case for not giving it to them

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:20 (six years ago) link

Digital storyteller for @BBCNews: #WorldHacks, @BBCtrending. #mojo evangelist. Creator: #CEOSecrets,

Not simply a life hack but a #worldhack.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:21 (six years ago) link

#CEOSecrets

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:23 (six years ago) link

#CEOSecrets 1. paying taxes is for suckers

Neil S, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:24 (six years ago) link

a bit of the old trenchant social commentary there

Neil S, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:25 (six years ago) link

assumed CEO stood for Cheese, Egg, Onion

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:25 (six years ago) link

One good thing about music
When it hits you feel no pain
So hit me with music
Hit me with music now
Hit me with music, hit me with music
Look at that, Trenchant rock
I say don't watch that, Trenchant rock
If you big fish or sprat, Trenchant rock
You reap what you sow, Trenchant rock
And everyone know now, Trenchant rock

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:28 (six years ago) link

- Bob Marley

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:28 (six years ago) link

the idea came to me as i was tying my shoelaces. why had no one invented shoes without laces, i asked? this report sheds light on the truth - someone has.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:30 (six years ago) link

a good journalist finds stories all around him!

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:30 (six years ago) link

it could be something as simple as eating a sandwich! not all journalism is woodward and bernstein!

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:30 (six years ago) link

Full disclosure: I was secretly hoping someone who actually does read the Guardian would point out to me they already had done a similar feature.

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:31 (six years ago) link

Although I did find this:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jul/05/how-to-eat-a-sausage-sandwich

Split your sausages lengthways. This will allow you to build thorough, corrugated sausage coverage.

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:34 (six years ago) link

That Favouritism thing.. is funny.

Father's role in society is to provide help and assistance to their daughters, you can see it in the adverts: Dad buys Daughter a car to help her through uni, she's all "thank you dad you I love" - Sons, at best, get a dad to help them fix the motor that they bought themselves.

That's not meant as a generalisation, that's how it's presented and that's how some are expected to fall into place.

My dad identified so strongly with my sister, it was like every achievement she made or any positive character facet was something that he liked to assign to himself - Not exactly "chip off the old block" but almost more that he modified himself after the event.

Of course, she got a boyf, and all those things came crashing down. Foreign, flashy, all he was after was a passport to live in the UK. (They were hugely similar in a lot of ways, but.) He refused to do anything to do with the Wedding, but he still made the speech, etc. like there was nothing wrong.

Anyway, they had a son, they eventually got divo, they had a hard time of it and a lot of it was their own doing. But that was almost the point where he decided she was less of a paragon of his own virtue, and more a deluded idiot that fell for a flashy swine that had ulterior motives.

Anyway, you'll never guess what happened next.

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:35 (six years ago) link

You're right, I can't

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 11:19 (six years ago) link

that adult-aged correspondent realises that chips are made out of potatoes in the next thrilling instalment. And then he explains why TM is going to be a whizz at post-Brexit negotiations because she actually made a burger from scratch once.

calzino, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 11:49 (six years ago) link

Nah, he 'ran off' with his secretary, and eventually brought her back into England with him...

I've see him twice since our wedding, he's met the kids once, when they were three and one.

Story ends. That's the short version.

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 12:49 (six years ago) link

The point of relating that tale, was that yeah, favouritism sucks, but in my particular case, he loses more than I do.

And now, back to ..

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 12:51 (six years ago) link

I'm finally glad to be an only child. Thanks, ILX.

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 12:56 (six years ago) link

always been kinda jealous of orphans meself

spud called maris (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 13:38 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

gone already?

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

It is still up, unfortunately. They have just moved it.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

LOL

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

i found it be googling "the guardian pepper"

i found this with the same google, which is more useful:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/may/29/slavic-cooking-pork-goulash-beef-stroganoff-anna-tobias-guest-cook

mark s, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

This passage is especially notable:

The story of Britain is the sum of everybody who has lived on these islands. To exclude sections of their culture is to diminish or distort Britain’s true character, and if we wish to be grounded in a sense of place isolationism will not achieve this. You do not find Englishness by kicking away anything that might appear non-English. You find Englishness simply by being in England and interacting with what life has in store.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link

i've read the first few pars and it seems like our man is proceeding from the misconception that englishness and britishness are the same thing, is that correct?

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link

ooo goulash

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link

(xp) Rule rather than exception on 'these islands', I would have thought.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link

i read somewhere really recently that the person responsible for getting everyone (halfheartedly to sometimes remember) to say "british" instead of "english" in this circumstance was max aitken, 1st baron beaverbrook

mark s, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link

Wasn't he Scottish?

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

Scots-Canadian, to be accurate.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link

born, raised and lived in canada until he was 30-ish -- pals with the canadian BONAR LAW

anyway i was a bit surprised, just bcz his paper was the daily express, which is i believe not currently in this same camp

mark s, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link

Tbf "I read the news today oh boy" sums up p much everything Britain nowadays. Visionaries, them scousers.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link

england and english were used interchangeably with britain and british until the second world war. ajp taylor's english history 1914-1945 famously is actually a history of britain.

scottish people were also referred to as scotch up until around the same time

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link

This piece rehashes a lot of the same shit as before although it gives a different spin - which doesn't entirely scan - on why The Guardian are so hostile to Corbyn.

The answer is complicated. Its about territory and identity. As projects, New Labour and The Guardian have a lot in common. Ever since I worked there, The Guardian has been on the move, not just physically but mentally. It moved from Manchester to London. The M25 became the boundaries of its new metropolitan world and it lost interest in Scotland and for much of my time there did not even have a correspondent based there.

Then it discovered America and seriously thought it could capture part of Google's digital advertising. The Guardian is like that. It only has two gears - arrogance and blind panic. Hundreds of millions of pounds later, The Guardian found itself stranded off the coast of New Jersey. Now the ship is plodding its way back to Manchester, the pilgrim that never got to the New World.

New Labour harboured the same ambitions to leave a constituency behind in search of a new world and never quite made it. Corbyn dispossessed New Labour of its last vestiges of power.

New Labour was not merely about policy. It was an attempt to permanently change the landscape of the left, hence its concentration on power and leadership. It had a devastating effect on both the party and its concept of leadership. This was why its only response to Corbyn was to go for the man, obsessing about his lack of qualities as a leader - as if the Iraq War, the Libya intervention and the banking crash were examples of sound leadership.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 June 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link

Rumoured to be going tabloid. I really liked the Berliner format, though obv can't remember the last time I bought one.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/06/11/guardian-go-tabloid-abandons-berliner-presses-print-deal-trinity/

stet, Sunday, 11 June 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link

dude they just bought those presses like 15 years ago!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 11 June 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

It probably would have been cheaper to set up their own coffee processing plant! I think unlike the Graun, the Berliner format is pretty classy tbh.

calzino, Sunday, 11 June 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link


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