Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

this the Internet, man

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The showboat fires back: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/us/politics/trump-comey-firing.html

Doctor Casino otm.

just curious -- has there been any coherent rationale offered by the white house (beyond the bullshit 'peace and love' tweet) for meeting with representatives of a government our intelligence agencies unanimously allege hacked our election?

Have they ever had a coherent rationale?

Wouldn't you rather have a good relationship with Russia rather than a bad one?

That's the rationale.

And in a magical vacuum where all else really is equal, yes

Closed-door Russia visit is so so painfully close to the SNL skit with Putin insisting he keep generous great state Russian gift of "Elf On A Shelf" conveniently close to the Oval Office wi-fi router.

At the dinner described by Mr. Trump in his interview with NBC, the conversation with Mr. Comey was quite different. Mr. Trump told NBC that Mr. Comey requested it to ask to keep his job. Mr. Trump said he asked the F.B.I. director if he was under investigation, a question that legal experts called highly unusual if not improper. In Mr. Trump’s telling, Mr. Comey reassured him that he was not.

So trump wants us to believe comey scheduled a meeting to beg to keep his job, even though he had no reason to suspect his term would be interrrupted. Sounds legit

Also this account -- while wildly implausible -- doesn't even make trump look good. How can someone be this dumb. I apologize for attributing machiavellian cunning to him during the election.

heh https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-05-11/trump-ordered-to-turn-over-giuliani-memo-in-travel-ban-suit

loyalty loyalty give me loyalty ... what is this, Joffrey demanding fealty?

Basically

yeah btw for the nth time can we stop the practice of, given some random picture that has a woman in it, making the conversation about thinking of high-larious ways to describe her appearance?

fwiw I had no idea of who she was, or the context for the photograph when I made my attempted witticism upthread, and I wasn't commenting upon her appearance at all. The fact that she was seated next to Pence under the watchful eyes of that group just reminded me of this

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/31/mike-pence-doesnt-eat-alone-women-speaks-volumes

that's all.

I would never have attempted a joke had I any idea she was a rape victim. Sorry for starting the whole thing.

the way of the future the way of the future (putin scores seven goals against manafort-kislyak pencenhuck) the way of the future Regardless of recommendation I was going to fire Comey. In fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story

I like the idea that admitted to obstructing an investigation, which someone mentioned above. Could he get charged with that? I'm not a lawyer.

I mean this is like the 15th borderline illegal thing hes done since taking office so I wouldn't hold my breath

Somethings gonna break.

He keeps obsessing over alleged "wiretaps" and "leaks" saying that's the problem, which suggests he is expecting some criminal behavior to be revealed and wants to prime the pump (TM) by encouraging his supporters to be reflexively hostile to any evidence against him.

And when the levee breaks he'll have no place to stay.

Yall know

Wouldn't you rather have a good relationship with Russia rather than a bad one?

That's the rationale.

― Karl Malone, Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:49 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is such a fun game to play. Wouldn't you rather have a good relationship with the arsonist who torched your home than a bad one? Wouldn't it be the best of all worlds, really, if you could be golfing buddies with your father's murderer? Peace and love. Peace and love.

Did he say he was going to fire Comey anyway to take attention away from the supposedly recused Sessions having suggested the firing? Once the initial version of the story fell through anyway.
Still sounds ridiculously un thought out. Would be great if the laughing gnome was forced to step down over his interference.

Chuckles aside, let's look at Trump policy that will hurt people, executed by one of the administration's few competent appointees.

It really can't be overstated what an evil little fuck this guys is.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/12/mandatory-minimum-drug-sentences-jeff-sessions-238295

JUst seen one of the satire shows talking about Trump's funders running private for profit prisons and needing to populate them. Can't think which it was but this odes seem to go along with that idea doesn't it?

the baby boomer death wave that's on the horizon can't reach the shore fast enough imo, the only thing that will stop these retrograde fucks for good is succumbing to entropy

Sessions is a gremlin.

Locking up black people is an end in itself to someone like Sessions. He doesn't need to be on the take from private prisons.

baby boomer death wave that's on the horizon can't reach the shore fast enough imo

otm. i expect the GOP will fund medicare just long enough to keep their blinkered army of racist zombies alive through maybe the 2026 midterms then they go full on Make America 1913 Again.

YES, do these old scumbags just run on pure fucking evil or what? Sessions has a face like a bleached catcher's mitt, so it's hard to believe his insides are any less decrepit. Die off already!

https://i.imgur.com/r9KsdGp.jpg

going to be another interesting day i feel

how is that not straight-up witness intimidation ffs

I think at this point, I'd put money on Trump ending up behind bars

"press briefings"

nah, he's a teetotaller xp

i'm all for making the misuse of inverted commas a capital crime tho, someone get jeff sessions on this stat

i haven't watched the whole holt interview, but isn't trump's contention that his meetings with comey involved comey trying to keep his job by reassuring trump that he wasn't under investigation?

so if there's tape of that it would be....very bad for both of them?

I think at this point, I'd put money on Trump ending up behind bars

Guantanamo hopefully.

the idea that something could be bad from trump is literally unthinkable for him

bad for trump, rather

going back to those trump tweetblurts carne asada posted for a sec, the one about surrogates not being able to keep up with trump's activity levels - he obviously thinks this is a good thing but what he's actually saying is that he has no coherent strategy or policies, so the people around him are basically covering for him constantly

i haven't watched the whole holt interview, but isn't trump's contention that his meetings with comey involved comey trying to keep his job by reassuring trump that he wasn't under investigation?

so if there's tape of that it would be....very bad for both of them?

― jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, May 12, 2017 1:40 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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Did Comey know anything about his job being in danger before his actual firing. Don't think I've seen anything indicating that. He seemed to be in the middle of routine procedure trying to recruit new FBI staff at the time.
So the idea that he would book a dinner to beg to continue in a job that he had 7 more years of tenure in would be a bit odd wouldn't it?

oh I would agree, i think trump probably imagined the part about comey begging for his job. it's just, like, if that WAS the case, as trump envisioned it, then any tapes of that conversation would be damning for them both. and if the tapes were instead just trump asking comey repeatedly if he was under investigation, then it would bad for trump only.

he's just...so dumb

you'd think we'd have developed some natural insulation by now to protect against the white heat of his idiocy but nope it still burns every time

Isn't it illegal to intimidate a witness with blackmail? Isn't comey testifying before congress on tuesday?

reminds me of the story he often tells about Shinzo Abe coming off the plane and bestowing effusive praise upon him for saving him Ten Trillion Dollars on those airplanes.

Later at the press briefing:

"So you're not speaking with perfect accuracy?"

"Of course I am!"

etc.

Isn't it illegal to intimidate a witness with blackmail? Isn't comey testifying before congress on tuesday?

Yes and yes, and here we are.

I guarantee that intel services have dirt on Trump that they've kept under wraps either because it relates to the ongoing investigation or out of a general sense of propriety and respect for the office of the president. So this tack is kinda like putting a gun in your mouth and warning the bullets that if you go down you're taking them with you.

i think trump probably imagined the part about comey begging for his job.

the word "imagined" is giving him way too much credit here. listen to any interview with Trump, he's constantly "imagining" people praising him and being subservient even though those accounts get immediately refuted nearly every time.

Tweets are literally surreal, this is the fucking POTUS point-scoring with the YouTube comments section ffs.