Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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Here we go, I pasted David Roberts' twitter thread into rough paragraph form:

OK, y'all, time for some game theory. Ha ha, jk. It's actually time for some theory of mind! Gigantic tweetstorm to follow. Brace thyself.

I want to riff on the point I made here, which I still think is central to our current political...uh, situation.

"Theory of mind" (ToM) is a concept in psychology. To have a ToM is to interpret the behavior of others as reflecting inner states. It is to interpret behavior as issuing from, and evidence of, desires, beliefs, intentions, fears, etc.

Humans typically develop ToM early, around 2-3. There are raging debates about whether various animals have ToM, or if so what kind. People on the autism spectrum have difficulty w/ ToM -- difficulty connecting behaviors to mental states, difficulty "reading" behavior. Autism-spectrum presents one kind of ToM problem: a rich text to be read, but a reader with difficulty reading.

There is, however, another (I suspect) more rare ToM problem, namely: sophisticated readers over-interpreting a text. Typical adults are drawn almost irresistibly to see behaviors as indicators of complex mental states - persistent beliefs, desires, etc.

Here's the thing: Trump, by all indications, does not have beliefs, intentions, etc. that are stable, persistent across contexts. He is attuned to who is dominating & who is submissive *in the situation he finds himself in*. It is 100% situational, 0% persistent. He seeks domination. That's all. He does not care about, or even seem cognizant of, lying, reversing himself, switching loyalties, etc. He's like a goldfish. No beliefs, intentions, plans, or schemes are carried from place to place. Every situation is new. There is, in a very real sense, no "mind" as such, only a set of animal impulses -- seek approbation, avoid blame, dominate, win.

Here's the problem: healthy adults are simply *not accustomed to dealing w/ someone like that*. It is a rare pathology and even rarer for someone to be so protected by money/power/family that they can succeed in life despite the pathology. To find someone with that pathology in a central position of power in the US is simply unprecedented. Utterly novel.

Normal people with normal ToM (including journalists) find it almost impossible to resist over-interpreting Trump's behavior to see it as reflective of stable, persistent beliefs, intentions, and plans. They read "mind" into his behavior. Can't help it. And this describes the vast bulk of journalism & analysis on Trump: a desperate attempt to figure out what kind of "mind" could possibly result in this bizarre set of statements & actions. Is there some long con? Is he distracting us? Secretly a genius?

Firing Comey in the middle of the Russia investigation, for example, seems nigh inexplicable. Where's the "mind," the deeper rationale?

Does this show he "actually" wants to become a dictator? That he "actually" has inside info on what Comey knew/intended? That he's "actually" distracting attention from the Census thing (or all the other things)? "Actually" angling for revenge on Clinton?

All of these are (perfectly understandable) attempts to apply ToM. It's what we do, instinctively, *especially* in political analysis.

The mistake is not any particular one of these theories. The mistake is *applying conventional ToM at all*. As I argued in the piece (linked way back in tweet 1), Trump is, by all indications, just a bundle of impulses. Nothing more.

Most likely explanation re: Russia is not some deep, secret plot, but ... DT saying yes to something that felt good in the moment and then immediately forgetting about it, connecting it to nothing else. Thus the confusion why everyone keeps bringing it up.

Most likely explanation re: Comey is not some Machiavellian tactic, but ... he kept seeing Comey on TV saying not-awesome things and that gave him bad feels, made him feel non-dominant. So he made Comey get off his TV. No "mind," just stimulus-response.

Accepting this fact -- that ToM is useless, that Trump really is nothing more than amygdala -- is *absolutely terrifying*. It is more terrifying than any particular ToM as applied to Trump. Stable desires & intentions, even if evil, at least *make sense*. A Trump ToM gives us the comfort of knowing that at least someone's in charge, someone has a handle on things, even if malign.

The idea that Trump is simply doing what produces good feels in a particular situation, that he is utterly unconstrained by consistency, by past commitments or statements, by laws or norms, by *anything* -- that's there's no "mind" as such -- is chilling.

What if he finds himself in a position where North Korea is giving him bad feels? Will he be able to assess a response in light of past commitments, expectations, strategy, norms, or decency? Probably not! He will seek a feeling of dominance *in the moment*. A mindless Trump, acting purely on impulse, is far more dangerous than an evil Trump, acting on grand, secret schemes.

As difficult as it is, journalists, analysts, & other political actors need to internalize this. Evil can be predicted, bargained w/ but there's no predicting or reasoning w/ pure animal impulse. ToM is useless. Only containment or removal will work. </fin>

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link

So he made Comey get off his TV.

I know the Billy Mumy Twilight Zone pic is getting to be a cliche but

I don't really like any of these albums (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 21:44 (seven years ago) link

frightening indeed

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 21:49 (seven years ago) link

i saw someone joke on twitter that trump had fired comey because trump was mad about this longread https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-comey-letter-probably-cost-clinton-the-election/

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, May 10, 2017 3:46 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is an angle I hadn't considered but which actually makes a huge amount of sense. Donnie Fucknugget wins the goddamn election via electoral votes, but that isn't enough. He obsesses over the variety of ways that he could (and SHOULD) have won the popular vote as well, and insists that the voting must have been rigged because nothing else makes sense. Now you have people making a big noise about how it's likely that Comey's interference is what ultimately swung the election...and that won't do! Ding Dong only won because of popularity! So he needs to grind this dude into the dirt, to essentially make him a nonentity, so that people stop making these slanderous FAKE! SAD! assertions.

Again, Trump's razor seems to suggest that we seek the basest, pettiest, most depraved explanation for any action he undertakes. He's purely reactive, and he's at his most reactive when his fwagile widdle ego is threatened.

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 22:02 (seven years ago) link

Hadn't read that Roberts thing. Rings 100% true to me.

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 22:06 (seven years ago) link

perlstein on why trump is not like nixon https://thebaffler.com/salvos/time-bandits-perlstein

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 22:10 (seven years ago) link

This is an angle I hadn't considered but which actually makes a huge amount of sense.

Trump doesn't read.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 22:14 (seven years ago) link

Trump doesn't read.

he reads headlines & urls which is all that one would need.

actually I don't think he reads headlines or urls either, based on what people say about his habits

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 22:19 (seven years ago) link

he mostly watches cable TV

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 22:19 (seven years ago) link

He is also read to, mind.

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 22:20 (seven years ago) link

fatal heart attack no whammy no whammmy c'monnnnnnnnn

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 22:24 (seven years ago) link

quick rephrase of david roberts' twitter thread:

idiot 39

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 22:31 (seven years ago) link

Flynn's been served.

BREAKING: the Senate Intel Cmte has issued a subpoena to Michael Flynn for Docs related to their Russia Investigation: pic.twitter.com/TrNcyMJbn7

— Frank Thorp V (@frankthorp) May 10, 2017

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 22:42 (seven years ago) link

Per a Senate historian, this is the 1st subpoena Senate Intel has issued since their 9/11 joint inquiry --> https://t.co/Zw4lVI4bfg

— Frank Thorp V (@frankthorp) May 10, 2017

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 22:44 (seven years ago) link

LOCK HIM UP!!!!

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 22:44 (seven years ago) link

Here's some weirdness

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/10/white-house-lawyers-warned-trump-stay-away-from-michael-flynn

White House lawyers have had to warn President Donald Trump repeatedly against reaching out to his fired National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, two people familiar with the matter tell The Daily Beast.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:07 (seven years ago) link

those subpoenas went out yesterday

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:08 (seven years ago) link

Ah no, read closer. This isn't Flynn's associates -- this is Flynn himself, specifically.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:10 (seven years ago) link

hmm earlier ones might've just been to "Flynn associates"

righto
xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:10 (seven years ago) link

Meantime I noticed this earlier:

Interesting: A few GOP Senators now privately discussing what they can do, beyond mere statements. Eg, withhold votes for Trump nominees...

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) May 10, 2017

And shrugged it off as the usual. But:

.@BenSasse & @SenJohnMcCain just announced their opposition to Pres. Trump's nominee to be U.S. Trade Rep, Robert Lighthizer

— Phil Mattingly (@Phil_Mattingly) May 10, 2017

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:11 (seven years ago) link

huh that *is* odd

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:12 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile in GOP townhallville

MacArthur after a furious question about Trump: "Folks, I didn't come here to defend the president tonight."

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) May 10, 2017

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:13 (seven years ago) link

Oh, was this finally the uncrossable line? I won't believe it but it's welcome.

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:16 (seven years ago) link

if there's one thing americans won't countenance it's backstabbing the man who stole you an election

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:20 (seven years ago) link

Did Russia act independently in support of Trump or did the Trump campaign actively collude with them in attempting to win the election? pic.twitter.com/8LrHOejLgw

— Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) May 10, 2017

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:23 (seven years ago) link

White House lawyers have had to warn President Donald Trump repeatedly against reaching out to his fired National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, two people familiar with the matter tell The Daily Beast.

He's been talking with fucking Roger Stone as well, who urged him to can Comey. He's also implicated in the fucking investigation!

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:26 (seven years ago) link

I love this picture that Bloomberg News ran with the story of Trump sending a "certified letter" to Lindsey Graham asserting that he's got no connections to Russia. He looks like Elvis the day before (or the day after) his death.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_adw-NUMAAj7ym.jpg

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:34 (seven years ago) link

David Roberts otm but sort of common knowledge? Most journalists gave up on the "mind" angle long ago and went to Bannon or the neocons for that. I feel that even the right wingers know that he's a void. They just like what he's doing for now.

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:35 (seven years ago) link

xp Greil Marcus should do something with that analogy!

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:35 (seven years ago) link

David Roberts otm but sort of common knowledge?

yeah Roberts' point isn't news, which is why he first made it nearly a year ago, when it was becoming increasingly obvious

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:37 (seven years ago) link

Sorry, didn't catch that.

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:38 (seven years ago) link

He looks like Elvis the day before (or the day after) his death.

OTM.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/7f/f6/4c/7ff64c00578b2eac5d43f8300c41f851.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:44 (seven years ago) link

It's mollifying to imagine that the GOP might eventually turn on Trump because he violated some sacrosanct moral principle and betrayed both the American people and the fundamental ideals of our great nation, but because he already does that four or five times a week at this point, I'm much more inclined to believe they might throw him under a bus because he's violated the sanctity of a cush ten-year federal-level appointment or somesuch.

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:46 (seven years ago) link

Updates from that townhall:

room just erupted in a chant of "single payer" https://t.co/WYhcCeZXIX

— noah kulwin (@nkulw) May 10, 2017

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:49 (seven years ago) link

"let the congressman finish!" one constituent yells

"he's finished in 2018" another shoots back

this is how this is going

— E McMorris-Santoro (@EvanMcS) May 10, 2017

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:52 (seven years ago) link

Am enjoying the twitter embed feature, btw. Thanks to Stet or whoever coded it in

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:52 (seven years ago) link

How do you do it?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:53 (seven years ago) link

Just paste the URL in the post box, gets converted.

Let's see if it works for mobile with this poll:

https://mobile.twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/862444742583267328

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Thursday, 11 May 2017 00:06 (seven years ago) link

That'd be a no.

Who should be the special prosecutor?

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) May 10, 2017

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Thursday, 11 May 2017 00:06 (seven years ago) link

instructions in "formatting help" below.

new noise, Thursday, 11 May 2017 00:08 (seven years ago) link

Cagily phrased, this letter.

First on CNN: In ltr to FBI staff, Comey says he's "long believed a president can fire an FBI director for any reason or no reason at all" pic.twitter.com/AxKWwyk1PZ

— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) May 11, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 May 2017 00:38 (seven years ago) link

my fav Sinatra song

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 May 2017 00:39 (seven years ago) link

Meantime, the current US Ambassador to Qatar (appointed 2014)

Increasingly difficult to wake up overseas to news from home, knowing I will spend today explaining our democracy and institutions.

— Dana Shell Smith (@AmbDana) May 10, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 May 2017 00:39 (seven years ago) link

Separately, Kevin McCarthy (House Majority Leader) seems a hair confused

.@GOPLeader: In Washington, "we serve at the pleasure" of the president.."if we lose the confidence,'' then we can lose our jobs

— Carla Marinucci (@cmarinucci) May 11, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 May 2017 00:41 (seven years ago) link

Ah, turns out he's in town here tonight. I don't know what he was thinking when he asked this:

When @GOPLeader asks SF audience who else in the crowd voted for Trump -- just one or two hands go up at #PlaybookExchange

— Carla Marinucci (@cmarinucci) May 11, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 May 2017 00:42 (seven years ago) link

someone's been watching "The Apprentice" long enough to believe it

xpost re McCarthy

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2017 00:42 (seven years ago) link


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