Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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Rumblings, unsurprisingly:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/us/politics/inside-the-fbi-stunned-agents-wonder-about-future-of-russia-inquiry.html?smid=tw-share

Agents were stunned that Mr. Trump would fire Mr. Comey in the midst of an F.B.I. investigation into whether any of the president’s associates had conspired with Russia to swing the election in favor of Mr. Trump. Some said in interviews that news of the firing felt like a gut punch. Others wondered whether they would be able to continue the inquiry.

One senior F.B.I. official said that the president had severely damaged his standing among agents, many of whom are conservative and supported Mr. Trump as a candidate. Agents were angered by the way Mr. Trump fired Mr. Comey, who learned of his dismissal from television reports while he was in Los Angeles. They called it disrespectful.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link

the president had severely damaged his standing among agents, many of whom are conservative and supported Mr. Trump as a candidate

sounds like some real bright guys

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link

oddly the FBI was probably the *one* intelligence agency in his corner, no? now they'll hate him too. Comey probably thought he was doing some Hoover-level shit and just couldn't pull it off/misread Trump.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 18:51 (seven years ago) link

Now I weirdly want to hear rushomancy game out a Trumpoid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

amex: bold as love (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link

Who knows what was happening with that investigation. I don't get the impression Comey was friendly toward Trump tbh, email letter aside

Treeship, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 18:57 (seven years ago) link

Worth noting (maybe mentioned earlier)

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/10/russia-probe-senate-requests-documents-from-money-laundering-watchdog-agency.html

The Senate panel has requested information about President Donald Trump and his top aides from a financial intelligence unit in the Treasury Department that imposed a $10 million civil penalty on Trump Taj Mahal in 2015 for multiple violations of money-laundering laws.

The Senate Intelligence Committee wants to see any information relevant to its Russia investigation the Treasury agency has gathered, including evidence that might include possible money laundering, according to a committee aide who spoke on condition of anonymity. Also at issue: to what extent, if at all, people close to Vladimir Putin have invested in Trump's real estate empire.

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Treasury's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network has assisted in the ongoing FBI counterintelligence investigation into Trump administration ties with Russia, multiple U.S. officials have said. A former senior Treasury official said that agency would have the authority to demand from any bank with a U.S. branch, including foreign banks, relevant records of transactions by Trump, his family members or his associates. FinCEN also maintains databases of reports of suspicious and cash transactions.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:02 (seven years ago) link

I don't get the impression Comey was friendly toward Trump tbh, email letter aside

I don't think he was friendly, but the handing-him-a-victory while potentially-having-dirt-on-him is such a Hoover scenario. The problem is Trump is crazy and stupid, so whatever leverage Comey may have thought he had over Trump obviously didn't work.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:04 (seven years ago) link

Ah that's what you meant.

Maybe.

Treeship, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:19 (seven years ago) link

this has to actually result in something, right? right? I mean this is so much worse than Nixon at this point barring the ordering of a physical break-in but seriously

this is just like comically bad and awful

nah gop will burn this all to the ground before you take away their tax cuts and 40 year old fed judges

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:33 (seven years ago) link

RE: #ComeyFiring, I think the GOP will now go along with anything Trump does. I mean literally anything. It’s TIME FOR SOME SHAME THEORY!

— David Rees (@david_rees) May 10, 2017

a fun tweet storm that ultimately agrees with will

meekseeks mill (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:34 (seven years ago) link

i'm not sure how much i buy the guy's central point, but if you feel like wallowing in misery for a few minutes, read that thread

meekseeks mill (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:35 (seven years ago) link

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2456

American voters, who gave President Donald Trump a slight approval bump after the missile strike in Syria, today give him a near-record negative 36 - 58 percent job approval rating, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. Critical are big losses among white voters with no college degree, white men and independent voters.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link

it's getting to the point that a 3rd party candidate is inevitable

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:40 (seven years ago) link

Is your opinion of Donald Trump favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about him?

imagine being in that 3rd category

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:41 (seven years ago) link

Critical are big losses among white voters with no college degree, white men and independent voters.

ah. the real cracks start to show

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:41 (seven years ago) link

xpost The Just Woke Up from a Coma Demographic

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:42 (seven years ago) link

"if it truly was choosing the least worst option, you'd think they'd have at least the semblance of a communications gameplan."

dude is just a capricious motherfucker who does stuff when he feels like it because he thinks that's how kings do things. on a whim.

scott seward, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:43 (seven years ago) link

I'm imagining being in that 3rd category and it is heavenly

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:44 (seven years ago) link

Critical are big losses among white voters with no college degree, white men and independent voters.

presumably this is bc it's the only demographic left that still approves of him?

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:45 (seven years ago) link

note if there are polling shifts they are probably in response to the AHCA. they won't have comey yet.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:45 (seven years ago) link

Critical are big losses among white voters with no college degree, white men and independent voters.

presumably this is bc it's the only demographic left that still approves of him?

― Mordy, Wednesday, May 10, 2017 7:45 PM (thirty seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

surely the only demographics the media gives a shit about anyway..

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:47 (seven years ago) link

Gonna keep saying it: He really is that stupid https://t.co/tOhGYJCdR2

— Adam Weinstein (@AdamWeinstein) May 10, 2017

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:48 (seven years ago) link

This'll be good for business: Homeland Security is banning laptops in the cabins of all flights from Europe to the US. If you have a laptop, you gotta check your bag. Period. The only people happy about this? Airport bookstore managers.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link

president brainstem is discussed here

1. I want to riff on the point I made here, which I still think is central to our current political...uh, situation. https://t.co/hNMGR5GfCW

— David Roberts (@drvox) May 10, 2017

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:53 (seven years ago) link

Now I weirdly want to hear rushomancy game out a Trumpoid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

― amex: bold as love (Ye Mad Puffin)

oh, god, i couldn't do that. there's only so far you can take the parallels. first off, the gleiwitz incident was incumbent on the molotov-von ribbentrop pact, and i see no evidence that president trump can pull off that level of diplomatic gamesmanship. second off while any american president can bomb whoever the hell they want without repercussions, and while trump's totalitarian desires have no particular policy basis, we'd have to go a long way to get to a point where a desire for "lebensraum" starts coming into play, particularly given that hitler's desires were based on his wanting germany to be more like america! we annexed our sudetenland under polk.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:56 (seven years ago) link

plus the international community no-sold the gleiwitz incident anyhow; i'm not sure trump could've handled things any _worse_ from a diplomatic perspective than the third reich did.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:59 (seven years ago) link

just came here to link that david roberts bit, yowzer

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:02 (seven years ago) link

9. What is the first word that comes to mind when you think of Donald Trump? (Numbers are not percentages. Figures show the number of times each response was given. This table reports only words that were mentioned at least five times.)
idiot 39
incompetent 31
liar 30
leader 25
unqualified 25
president 22
strong 21
businessman 18
ignorant 16
egotistical 15
asshole 13
stupid 13
arrogant 12
trying 12
bully 11
business 11
narcissist 11
successful 11
disgusting 10
great 10
clown 9
dishonest 9
racist 9
American 8
bigot 8
good 8
money 8
smart 8
buffoon 7
con-man 7
crazy 7
different 7
disaster 7
rich 7
despicable 6
dictator 6
aggressive 5
blowhard 5
decisive 5
embarrassment 5
evil 5
greedy 5
inexperienced 5
mental 5
negotiator 5
patriotism 5

lol who the hell says "president"

chinavision!, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

"donald trump"

...

"patriotism"

chinavision!, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link

"Donald Trump is like a goldfish" is a sentiment I can 100% get behind

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link

it's true he should be flushed down a toilet after being left to die by a 9 yo

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:19 (seven years ago) link

David Roberts also wrote this back in Sept, which he references in that Twitter thread:

https://www.vox.com/2016/9/29/13086236/trump-beliefs-category-error

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link

who the HELL would put a laptop in checked baggage the way that shit gets thrown around?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:22 (seven years ago) link

SSD, my dude

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link

Me

badg, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link

xp

badg, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/BnXI0vz.png

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link

Yea the Roberts thing seems very otm to me, which I think explains his reaction to all the Russia stuff - he's incredulous about it because its bad news, but in reality he has no clue what any of it is about. I think back to this article about that 2007 deposition a lot:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/trump-lies/

I 100% believe that Trump does not *think* he is hiding anything. I also believe that if any one of the many, many Russian entities that he has frequent contacts with offered him a deal to influence the election that he would accept without a second thought. When has he *not* thought he was above the law?

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link

As pointed out in the article, remember the freakouts about Li-Ion batteries causing fires in baggage compartments?

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link

Deadly serious Q: Was it a good idea to let a Russian gov photographer & all their equipment into the Oval Office? https://t.co/6WA4NxHxID

— Colin Kahl (@ColinKahl) May 10, 2017

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link

is there a big difference when substation bomb goes off in a baggage compartment or the main cabin ?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link

substantial not substation*

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link

I am taking this with a grain of salt:

Source to @jaketapper: 2 reasons Comey was fired
1. Comey never provided Trump w assurance of loyalty
2. FBI's Russia probe was accelerating pic.twitter.com/j4shX70Ff1

— CNN (@CNN) May 10, 2017

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:32 (seven years ago) link

I dunno, reads plausible from here.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:34 (seven years ago) link

i think it's very plausible, but whether or not there's a paper trail to support it is the thing. if there is, then there's grounds for impeachment. if not, then *shrug emoji*

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:36 (seven years ago) link

what is "it"?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:36 (seven years ago) link

besides this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BT1oNdYUPg

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:37 (seven years ago) link

The most otm thing in the Roberts tweetstorm is that he fired Comey to get him off his TV. He would do the same to SNL and Jake Tapper if he could.


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