katy perry - prism

Idk, I like this song. It's birthday but with black guys and while white radio might have a problem with that, I don't. There's obviously some sort of KP backlash going on atm but I generally appreciate her shameless persona. The main problem w Chained was the skip marley iz MORPHEUS part. She should have fed him to the lions.

new song "swish swish" w/ nicki is surprisingly good, her last good single since... "dark horse" or "birthday" maybe?

not sure if true but i hear duke dumont produced?? wouldn't surprise me if true + maybe it would give him inroads to american pop radio

if it really was duke dumont behind the prod i'm surprised either of them got properly credited

It's like a shitty "Truffle Butter".

Well whoever produced it must have been listening to lesser known Fatboy Slim singles. Or Roland Clark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s765wPKjNRk

The writing credits for the album allegedly include Purity Ring, Hot Chip, Mike Will Made It and Noonie Bao, amongst others (no Dr Luke).

not bad but yea sounds like truffle buttre

hey wait, Purity Ring did a song on this?

per wikipedia, but it's also possible they were just sampled

"swish swish" isn't great... like "bon appetit" the concept quickly gets pretty strained. can't imagine it being popular either. this album is sort of fascinating.

The video for Bon Appetit is... something.

I'm weirdly excited for this album.

I don't mind either Bon Appetit or Swish Swish; neither is going to get the "play endlessly for a year" treatment I gave Dark Horse

Bon Appetit and Swish Swish are tanking down the Hot 100 - Bon Appetit went from 67 to 96, Swish Swish from 46 to 78.

Chained to the Rhythm has an Applause air to it, underperforming but still crushing the followup attempts.

taking the analogy further, "Bon Appétit" might be the "Swine" of this album - catchy as hell but ruined by gross lyrics.

Just listening to the new album. The title track is one of the best songs she's ever done.

Has anyone come up with a coherent reason why this record isn't finding a foothold? Personally I'm in the "only ever been moderately interested in Katy" camp but from where I'm standing this is a major step up for her production-wise, at least. Even the Max Martin stuff is like the peak version of that post-Wolf Cousins sweet spot he's been hitting lately.

women with personality who aren't rihanna are out of vogue on pop radio

and say what you will about katy perry, she is overflowing with personality

A good chunk of this album is excellent. Fantastic production, very of the moment but also unusually forward looking for a Katy Perry album. The roll out for the album has been a mess—bum singles, gross videos, desperate SNL performances, some weirdly testy interviews—but I gotta imagine this will more or less live up to sales expectations. There are singles here.

I always liked her personality. She's smart as hell and doesn't try to hide it (saw her in a concert a few years ago and even during the routine audience engagement parts she seemed to be cutting down fans with her wit) but I do think on this album cycle for some reason she's come across as testy, defensive and generally unlikable. Can't quite pinpoint what's putting me off this time around, but I think part of it is post-Miley I'm pretty weary of pop stars who suddenly reinvent themselves as way into rap culture.

The whole marketing of this album seems off. It's a savvy, club-friendly pop album (something there's always a market for) that tried to disguise itself as a late-to-the-party rap-minded pop album (something there's almost no market for right now, at time when many radio stations clip rap verses out of songs).

the rap part is explainable enough, "Dark Horse" was probably the biggest hit off Prism

Yeah, definitely get why they'd wanna return to that well. "Dark Horse" is her best song imo. But I think they learned the wrong lessons from that song. You coulda cut Juicy J out of that song and it still would have been a jam.

katy perry is still probably one of the most likable major musicians going rn imo

likable person or likable people in her songs?

Most of her songs are menaces.

likable person, the songs i avoid. though i'm willing to let 'roar' slide bc our 6 yr old loves it (and i suspect has a crush on her.)

This will change if/when she scores a real hit from the album, but right now the lasting image from this album cycle is her on SNL, doing this:

http://www.bet.com/music/2017/05/24/katy-perry-migos-snl-performance-reactions/_jcr_content/image.heroimage.dimg/__1495661949157/052417-Music-Katy-Perry-SNL-Awkward-Dance.gif

Beyond how ridiculous and unflattering that is, it confirms our worst suspicions about pop stars. Here she is, rolling her eyes at the very performance she's giving, winking and nudging her fans by saying, yeah, I'm doing this, but I'm not really into it. I'm way too smart for rap music.

likable person, the songs i avoid. though i'm willing to let 'roar' slide bc our 6 yr old loves it (and i suspect has a crush on her.)

― nomar, Friday, June 9, 2017 12:54 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My 6 year old as well! It's on her little playlist right next to the theme from Rocky III. Does the new album have any tunes about wildlife?

Beyond how ridiculous and unflattering that is, it confirms our worst suspicions about pop stars. Here she is, rolling her eyes at the very performance she's giving, winking and nudging her fans by saying, yeah, I'm doing this, but I'm not really into it. I'm way too smart for rap music.

Or... she is trying to do a stankface and is failing miserably at it.

These videos and gifs of her attempting to perform any of this music has been the best part of this whole campaign so far.

http://i.imgur.com/9nDMape.gif

and say what you will about katy perry, she is overflowing with personality

― maura, Friday, June 9, 2017 12:28 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark

i think people may sense a falseness and desperation about her in-your-face Personality

also i seriously hear next to nothing to like in this album, and i'll go to the mat for a lot of prism & even teenage dream. the roll out of this album's singles makes more sense hearing the rest of the album bcuz there really isn't much else to work with.

some of the decisions are just weird. like, she worked w/ dj mustard and hot chip and made two ballads?

a few of the songs w/ purity ring aren't bad tho

Katy Perry's wacky brashness is a huge part of her appeal, the problem with Witness is that she basically abandoned it.

She's our generation's Cyndi Lauper, "Chained to the Rhythm" was her "I Drove All Night" moment.

i wasn't saying it was a *good* personality

a few of the songs w/ purity ring aren't bad tho

These are the songs that made me stop processing the album as anonymous but serviceable club music and something actively terrible

I love both Purity Ring albums, too ;_;

grr "and turned it into something actively terrible"

She's our generation's Cyndi Lauper

I am pretty sure Cyndi Lauper is my generation's Cyndi Lauper

not surprised at all that this has shaped up to be her artpop commercially. personality-driven dance-pop like gaga and katy is being supplanted on top 40 by edm-pop crossovers in these last couple years. the music's barely any different but instead of being billed to the usually-female pop vocalist is increasingly billed to [dj bro/s] feat. [female pop vocalist] or [dj bro/s] "x" [female pop vocalist] (apparently an ampersand would imply an uncool degree of collaboration between the dj bro and the female pop star that might threaten to undermine dj bro's manufactured auteurist appeal). this is if the female pop vocalist is credited at all.

These are the songs that made me stop processing the album as anonymous but serviceable club music and something actively terrible

I love both Purity Ring albums, too ;_;

― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Friday, June 9, 2017 1:17 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think the vocal manipulation on "mind maze" is maybe the best part of the album aside from the bhasker song at the end

i reviewed btw: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/review-katy-perrys-witness-w486805

She's our generation's Cyndi Lauper, "Chained to the Rhythm" was her "I Drove All Night" moment.

― Sutcliffe Juugin' (Whiney G. Weingarten),

Roy Orbison covered "Chained to the Rhythm"??

the fly in the ointment regarding any theorizing about what this album says about the music industry is that bon appetit and swish swish are noticeably not good at all

I like Tsunami and parts of Pendulum.

haven't listened to anything other than the singles but "swish swish" is the only one i like

"Bon Appetit" is an embarrassment, like a spilled drink.

I would like "Bon Appetit" so much more if it was Migos feat. Katy Perry.

I successfully ignored a lot of the lyrics on my listenthrough of the album and was enjoying myself up until around "Tsunami", at which point I threw my hands up in exasperation and wondered why she didn't call the album On The Nose.

yeah that one kinda uh... lays it on thick

speaking of, how come Robin never called an album Lay It on Thicke?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vFfSnx2Oqo