katy perry - prism

it will probably fall off the chart next week then re-enter for one more week after the video drops before falling off again. i wonder how embarrassed and/or panicked the ppl at capitol are right now.

"The track is a dance-pop song with sexual double entendres involving food. "

pop music wikipedia makes me so sad

it's sorta crazy anyone involved heard that and was like "this is the song we need to save our suddenly flagging new album rollout"... maybe it was just the migos feature

This really was an odd choice for a single but I did think it would still do fairly well based on her name alone. I still think Chained To The Rhythm is a great song.

Love the music, but the vocals and lyric are TERRIBLE (and I really liked "Chained to the Rhythm" overall). The Migo rap is the best sounding vocal part.

that migos song is good as hell

beat's great, melodies great, its a hit record

>>>>> t-shirt

i mean.... it's not gonna be a hit record lol

you can stump for it as a song for whatever reason but it's already a flop basically

idk sure sounds like one to me

has radio even pushed it yet? katy perry isn't exactly the kind of artist whose songs hit no. 1 out the gate right?

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are we talking about the same katy perry?

idk i dont follow her shit, i usually dont like her songs and then sometimes i do (teenage dream or w/e), this seems like a perfectly good summer record to me, but then im not invested in katy perry as a 'star'

maybe her star is falling cuz its the woke era or something, i dont really get what the problem would be w/ this single though, shit is catchy as hell

for comparison, "chained to the rhythm" debuted at #4. "bon appetit" debuted at #76.

i wonder if its similar to that effect w/ albums where people judge your single off the success of the last one

Katy Perry, a real dark horse on the Billboard charts.... not

the song is good enough imo that it feels like momentum would *really* have to be moving against her career in general for that not to do something

that's possible, but "chained to the rhythm" was only a flop in the context of katy perry insofar as it didn't hit #1 and stay there for weeks. it did fine otherwise tho.

another aspect is that they're going w/ the old school model of choosing specific pre-release singles w/ the album still months away, whereas i.e. bruno mars had a little trouble finding a second single after "24k magic" but the album was timed to where they were able to look at streaming data while "24k magic" was still on the charts, which led to the elevation of "that's what i like" as a people's choice pick that the label eventually got behind

"that's possible" is re the idea that this single is flopping bcuz "chained to the rhythm" also underperformed

i mean the obvious difference is: chained to the rhythm is a bad song, and this is not

many songs just take time to break regardless of who made them, 'thats what i like' was also not a hit out the gate even if it was a streaming fav

well, i disagree entirely that the song is any good... it struck me immediately as really generic from the beat to the concept, and the hook is muted, doesn't grab you at all. i'm stunned it's something that came from max martin frankly.

it's a retread of this song off her last album which is like 100 times better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4D5egXVqSg

there's no real history as far as i remember of a pre-album katy perry single taking any time whatsoever to climb the charts, but maybe this will be the one

it's currently #142 on itunes, which is two spots behind "slippery"

i dont hear the similarity between those two songs at all! walking on air is straight edm

I typically don't care about Katy Perry's chart success or failures all that much, but I guess I'm maybe 1% curious to see if this is her first album without a #1 or if she'll continue the streak.

I can't see her getting a number 1, particularly given the general scarcity of women in the upper echelons of the charts at the moment who aren't featured vocalists - see Maura's post on this in the New Jersey thread

her lead single spent two weeks in the top 10 -- its first two weeks. it likely would have spent zero weeks in the top 10 had she not performed on the grammys broadcast the week it dropped. as j0rdan pointed out this new one is plummeting at an alarming rate on itunes (where it never even cracked the top 10) + furthermore has paltry stats on the streaming services (where sleeper hits tend to show their early promise), is not doing the usual katy perry thing at radio. it's almost certain she will not be getting another number one hit this time around. it seems like a very real possibility that the album won't go #1 either.

I mean it's pretty obvious, she's not working with her old writers/producers anymore

the new haircut is not really on-brand

I'm not saying this is going number one or some shit im just saying it's good and I have trouble envisioning it as a flop... just seems an immediate and obviously appealing song tbh

i like the track but good god the lyrics. it's like that birthday song all over again.

Lol I mean it is katy perry

"i am your servant woman! i exist to please you!"

I remember thinking California girls had amazingly generic lyrics for a song w such massive and easy potential for memorable or vivid ones

Oh bikinis huh

california gurls is practically feminist compared to birthday and bon appetit

Idk, I like this song. It's birthday but with black guys and while white radio might have a problem with that, I don't. There's obviously some sort of KP backlash going on atm but I generally appreciate her shameless persona. The main problem w Chained was the skip marley iz MORPHEUS part. She should have fed him to the lions.

new song "swish swish" w/ nicki is surprisingly good, her last good single since... "dark horse" or "birthday" maybe?

not sure if true but i hear duke dumont produced?? wouldn't surprise me if true + maybe it would give him inroads to american pop radio

if it really was duke dumont behind the prod i'm surprised either of them got properly credited

It's like a shitty "Truffle Butter".

Well whoever produced it must have been listening to lesser known Fatboy Slim singles. Or Roland Clark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s765wPKjNRk

The writing credits for the album allegedly include Purity Ring, Hot Chip, Mike Will Made It and Noonie Bao, amongst others (no Dr Luke).

not bad but yea sounds like truffle buttre

hey wait, Purity Ring did a song on this?

per wikipedia, but it's also possible they were just sampled

"swish swish" isn't great... like "bon appetit" the concept quickly gets pretty strained. can't imagine it being popular either. this album is sort of fascinating.

The video for Bon Appetit is... something.

I'm weirdly excited for this album.

I don't mind either Bon Appetit or Swish Swish; neither is going to get the "play endlessly for a year" treatment I gave Dark Horse

Bon Appetit and Swish Swish are tanking down the Hot 100 - Bon Appetit went from 67 to 96, Swish Swish from 46 to 78.

Chained to the Rhythm has an Applause air to it, underperforming but still crushing the followup attempts.