Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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Trump already attacking her on Twitter, this should be good

frogbs, Monday, 8 May 2017 13:40 (seven years ago) link

So-called former acting attorney general?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 May 2017 13:41 (seven years ago) link

Oh Carter Page, will you EVER learn

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/08/politics/carter-page-russian-official/index.html

In an angry nine-page letter, Page attacked the Senate intelligence committee's "bitter" investigation, suggesting it was a "show trial" into potential collusion between associates of President Donald Trump and Russians during the elections. Page said the committee's request for detailed information about his recent contacts with Russians is "preposterous" and "illogical," and is " based on "lies from corrupt politicians."

But he does acknowledge meeting in 2013 with Victor Podobnyy, whom he called a "junior attaché" to Russia at the United Nations, even though US officials believe he is a spy. He said he only had "brief interactions" with Podobnyy and did not expand on what they discussed.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 May 2017 14:27 (seven years ago) link

lol @ this idiot but seriously I'd be shocked if anything came out of this guy

frogbs, Monday, 8 May 2017 14:33 (seven years ago) link

My feeling is that Page and Trump colluded with Russian foreign agents but are indignant about charges of collusion because they are not smart enough to understand what 'collusion' means (three syllables).

Elitist!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 May 2017 14:44 (seven years ago) link

Keep thinking that's saying "Page and Plant", but hey

Mark G, Monday, 8 May 2017 14:57 (seven years ago) link

do you think Mike Flynn is smart enough to know he's a Russian asset

softie (silby), Monday, 8 May 2017 15:32 (seven years ago) link

Flynn was smart enough to know what he was doing but not smart enough to figure out that it might eventually bite him on the ass.

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Monday, 8 May 2017 15:35 (seven years ago) link

btw, George Will and MSNBC: made for each other

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 May 2017 16:45 (seven years ago) link

lol of course

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/obama-warned-trump-against-hiring-mike-flynn-say-officials-n756316

― frogbs, Monday, May 8, 2017 11:30 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark

lol this is great especially after this! what a dumb ass

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General Flynn was given the highest security clearance by the Obama Administration - but the Fake News seldom likes talking about that.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 8 May 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link

I dug this, and figure Fred Hampton should be quoted more often nowadays:

Trumpism: It’s Coming From the Suburbs

Racism, fascism, and working-class Americans.
By Jesse A. Myerson

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Monday, 8 May 2017 16:55 (seven years ago) link

Always a pleasure to see Wilhelm Reich cited.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 8 May 2017 17:02 (seven years ago) link

*Nelson laugh*

There's an update on that NBC story:

A senior Trump administration official acknowledged Monday that Obama raised the issue of Flynn, saying the former president made clear he was "not a fan of Michael Flynn." Another official said Obama's remark seemed like it was made in jest.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 May 2017 17:04 (seven years ago) link

Trumpism: It’s Coming From the Suburbs

I get this as a theoretical statement, but here in Wisconsin, the white flight suburbs are the center of "Trumpism" only insofar as the people who live there are reliable Republican voters; Trump didn't do as well there as previous Republican candidates did. The difference between previous Wisconsin pres elections and this one is, indeed, that white rural voters voted for Trump much more than they voted for previous Republicans, and the city of Milwaukee didn't turn out as strongly as it did for Obama. It's not always about crucial Waukesha county.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 8 May 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link

It's almost as if surrounding yourself with fundamentally unserious people affects your worldview and judgment, huh.

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Monday, 8 May 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link

xpost

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Monday, 8 May 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link

Well, who didn't foresee that? Of course the administration is clashing with McMaster. He isn't an emotional infant who exists just to spitefully kick his toys across the room.

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Monday, 8 May 2017 17:46 (seven years ago) link

McMaster shows too plainly that he understands Trump doesn't know what he's talking about and he doesn't sufficiently sugar-coat his corrections of Trump's errors.

Aimless, Monday, 8 May 2017 17:47 (seven years ago) link

It is so audacious and yet utterly predictable that they would try to blame the Flynn situation on Obama. That sort of non-logic has so much potential. "Trumpcare failed because we were forced to come up with something to replace the failing ACA, blame Obama." Etc.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 May 2017 17:51 (seven years ago) link

This administration is failing because the founding fathers had the gall to create this country in the first place. Sad!

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Monday, 8 May 2017 17:52 (seven years ago) link

we all deserve what we have coming to us for the original sin of taxing the *job creators* glory be upon them

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 8 May 2017 17:53 (seven years ago) link

blaming obama for not stopping them from shooting themselves in the foot/face? yeah ok. 'he did our homework but he didn't do it good enough fuck him he's a monster'

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 8 May 2017 18:03 (seven years ago) link

McMaster's volunteerism going sour is not just predictably bad news for foreign policy (diplomatic and the other kind) but also bodes ill for the hundreds of vacancies remaining in the executive branch with no nominations - anybody qualified who might have been looking at McMaster's move as an encouragement to "take one for the team" is now less likely to do so.

Having talked to some colleagues who were around at the tail end of the last GOP admin, almost none of those folks (the prior Republican appointed officials) are interested in coming back. The executive branch will be lucky if it remains staffed by mostly "acting" roles for the entire term. That might not be an entirely terrible precedent, either.

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Monday, 8 May 2017 18:10 (seven years ago) link

is McMaster the kind of guy who will have the balls to resign or will he just swallow Trumps shit like a good soldier?

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 8 May 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link

I predict that when McMcaster discovers that he cannot put Trump's house in order, no matter how valiantly he tries, he will undergo the seven stages of grief, then resign.

Aimless, Monday, 8 May 2017 18:27 (seven years ago) link

blaming obama for not stopping them from shooting themselves in the foot/face? yeah ok. 'he did our homework but he didn't do it good enough fuck him he's a monster'

― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, May 8, 2017 1:03 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not even 'he didn't do it good enough'. 'What an asshole that guy is for failing to explicitly state that his advice wasn't a joke.'

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Monday, 8 May 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link

jokes on all of us, lol

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 8 May 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link

'He told us not to hire him, knowing wed do the opposite of what he said! Because no means yes and yes means no"

Mark G, Monday, 8 May 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link

anything good happening in the Yates hearing?

frogbs, Monday, 8 May 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link

er...testimony?

frogbs, Monday, 8 May 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link

questions starting now

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 8 May 2017 19:04 (seven years ago) link

Feinstein confirming that Obama warned Trump about Flynn

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 8 May 2017 19:06 (seven years ago) link

Every time they reiterate the facts in these things, a) it demonstrates that they've been paying attention to all the same tin-hat stuff as us and b) it further embarasses and humiliates Trump. Not that he cares, but his place as a suspect laughing stock is secure in the books. Assuming anyone will be reading by the time he's gone.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 May 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link

sally yates is extremely attractive

marcos, Monday, 8 May 2017 19:09 (seven years ago) link

Yates implying pretty strongly that there was collusion

frogbs, Monday, 8 May 2017 19:09 (seven years ago) link

Sort of the first bombshell: Graham asked Clapper if he still did not know of any evidence that Trump campaign colluded with Russians. He said no. He asked the same question of Yates, and she said she couldn't say because classified.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 May 2017 19:09 (seven years ago) link

getting pretty nervous for the senate version of the AHCA

global tetrahedron, Monday, 8 May 2017 19:17 (seven years ago) link

This is a useful state of play re that:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/house-senate-republicans-health-care_us_5910ad87e4b0104c73511162?9q

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 May 2017 19:18 (seven years ago) link

something will pass the Senate but reconciliation rules and Senate perogatives mean it will look p different from the House bill. Whether or not Meadows can keep the Freedom Caucus united behind it, who knows

Οὖτις, Monday, 8 May 2017 19:26 (seven years ago) link

fuck these asholes and thier stupid quesions about leaks and unmasking

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 8 May 2017 19:30 (seven years ago) link

i'm taking only limited comfort in the "senate bill will have to go back to the House" scenario because i think the landscape looks different when the thing arrives already having passed the other house. whichever ""moderates"" were iffy about voting for something controversial that might not ever become law are off the hook of that particular worry, and maybe at least some freedom caucus types are less likely to be hardliners over the last 2% when 98% of what they want is in front of them.

that still leaves the question is how much the senate bill looks like 98% of what the freedom caucus wants, but i don't think we'll see as much of the "ryan caught between two irreconcilable factions" problem that we saw with version 1.0. idk, i mean it could still be a big clusterfuck but i'm not ready to be totally sanguine about it.

✓ (Doctor Casino), Monday, 8 May 2017 19:31 (seven years ago) link

xps The Freedom Caucus loves to shit in the sandbox, while the Senate loves to stand on its assumed dignity, so this will be a very pertinent question.

Aimless, Monday, 8 May 2017 19:32 (seven years ago) link

John McCain wrote a pro-human-rights editorial in the NYT, lol

american foreign policy: a play in four acts pic.twitter.com/W84M4bgNFr

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) May 8, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 May 2017 19:32 (seven years ago) link

from the current vantage point I would say it looks likely some form of repeal is going to pass and become law. it won't be as odious as the House bill but it will still be bad, and Dems should try to kneecap it at every turn. But there's a lot of moving parts here, and it's going to drag on for months, so it's difficult to predict specifics.

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 8 May 2017 19:33 (seven years ago) link


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