Least despicable Sublime single

santeria i guess

adding fart jokes to sublime songs is some real coals to newcastle shit

can i just say RIP DOM PASSANTINO real quick? his spirit lives on w/ this poll tho totally

tru dat

Let me tell you about a girl I know
had a drink about an hour ago.
Sitting in a corner by herself in a bar in downtown Hell.
She heard a noise and she looked through the door.
And saw a man she'd never seen before.
Light skin light blue eyes a double chin and a plastic smile.
Well her eyebrow raised as he walked through the door
And took an empty seat next to her at the bar.
"My brand new car is parked right outside. How'd ya like to go for a ride?"
And she said."Wait a minute I have to think."
He said, "That's fine. May I please buy you a drink"
One drink turned into 3 or 4 and they left and got into his car
and they drove away someplace real far.

Now babe the time has come.
How'd ya like to have a little fun?
And she said." If we could only please be on our way, I will not run."

That's when things got out of control.
She didn't want to, he had his way.
She said, "Let's Go"
He said, "No Way!"
Come on babe it's your lucky day.
Shut your mouth, were gonna do it my way.
Come on baby don't be afraid,
if it wasn't for date rape I'd never get laid.

He finished up and he started the car
He turned around and drove back to the bar.
He said."Now baby don't be sad, in my opinion you weren't half-bad."
She picked up a rock.,threw it at the car, hit him in the head, now his got a big scar.
Come on party people won't you listen to me.
Date Rape Stylie.

The next day she went to her drawer, looked up her local attorney at law,
went to the phone and filed the police report and then she took the guy's ass to court.
Well, the day he stood in front of the judge he screamed, " She lies that little slut!"
The judge knew that he was full of shit and he gave him 25 years
And now his heart is filled with tears.

That night in jail it was getting late.
He was butt-raped by a large inmate, and he screamed.
But the guards paid no attention to his cries.

That's when things got out of control.
The moral of the date rape story, it does not pay to be drunk and horny.
But that's the way it had to be.
They locked him up and threw away the key.
Well, I can't take pity on men of his kind,
even though he now takes it in the behind.

That's the way it had to be.
They locked him up and threw away the key.
Well, I can't take pity on men of his kind,
even though he now takes it in the behind.

DATE RAPE

She didn't want to TAKE IT!

Early in the morning risin' to the street
Light me up that cigarette and I strap shoes on my feet
Got to find a reason a reason things went wrong
Got to find a reason why my money's all gone
But I got a dalmatian and I can still get high
I can play the guitar like a mother fuckin riot
Life is too short so love the one you got cause you might get
runover or you might get shot
Never start no static
I just get it off my chest
Never had to battle with no bulletproof vest
Take a small example
A tip from me take all of your money and give it up to charity
Lovin's what I got
It's within my reach
And the sublime style's still straight from long beach
It all comes back to you you're gonna get what you deserve
Try and test that you're bound to get served
Love's what I got
Don't start a riot
You feel it when the dance gets hot
That's why I don't cry when my dog runs away
I don't get angry at the bills I have to pay
I don't get angry when my Mom smokes pot, hits
the bottle and goes back to the rock
Fuckin and fighting it's all the same
Livin' with Louie dog's the only way to stay sane
Let the lovin come back to me

true california dudes are a separate race IMO

(a thought which first occurred to me watching "Rising Son" a documentary about the skater christian hosoi)

Annie's 12 years old
In two more she'll be a whore
Nobody ever told her
It's the wrong way
Don't be afraid
With the quickness you'll get laid
For your family get paid
It's the wrong way

I gave her all that I had to give
But I'm gonna make it hard to live
Salty tears runnin' down her chin
And it ruins up her makeup
They never wanted
A cigarette
Pressed between her lips
But I'm starin' at her tits
It's the wrong way
Strong if I can
But I am only a man
So I take her to the can
It's the wrong way

The only family that she's ever had
Is her seven horny brothers and a drunk-ass dad
He needed money so he put her on the street
Everything was goin' fine till the day she met me
Happy are you sad, wanna shoot your dad
I'll do anything I can, the wrong way
We talk all night
Try to make it right
Believe me shit was tight
I was the wrong way

Don't run away if you wanna stay
Cuz I ain't here to make ya
Oh no
It's up to you what you really wanna do
Spend some time in America
Dub style!

She'll give you all that she's got to give
But I'm gonna make it hard to live
Big salty tears rollin' down her chin
And it smears up her makeup they never wanted

So we ran away and I'm sorry when I say
That straight to this very day
Was the wrong way
She took a hike
Don't matter if I like it or not
Because she only wants the wrong way
I gave her all that I had to give
She still wouldn't take it- oh no!
Her big brown eyes are leakin' salty tears
And it still ruins her makeup
They never wanted

summertime and the livin's easy
and bradley's on the microphone w/ ras m.g.
all the people in teh dance will agree
that we are well qualified to represent the lb g
me and louie run to the party
dance to the riddim it gets harder
me and my girl got this relationship
i love her so bad but she treats me like...
on lock down like a penetentiary she
spreads her lovin' all over and then there's none left for me
(chorus) oh take this veil from off my eyes
a burning sun will one day rise
so what am i gonna be doin' for a wife
i guess i'll have to play it myself show them how we come off the shelf
(chorus) evil i've come to tell you that she's evil most definately
evil ornery scandalous and evil the
tension is getting hotter i'd like to hold her head underwater

these guys had issues

spelling issues

Come on party people won't you listen to me.
Date Rape Stylie.

o_O hall of fame

date rape stylus

just scanned all those lyrics, wau

man i was SO INTO this band in like 6th/7th grade

haha yea those lyrics are pretty nuts.

however,

man i was SO INTO this band in like 6th/7th grade

me too

Love's what I got
Don't start a riot
You feel it when the dance gets hot

Used to crack me up every time: "Rye-ot." It's like he got to the middle of the word and thought, lookit me, ma, I'm rappin'!

They were seriously my favorite band at some point in high school. And they're still huge here in Cali. I think this goes along with the controversial "Hanging out w/ people who don't know anything about anything and are into lame shit" thread, like how so many people whose tastes haven't budged since HS. Like there are seriously so many people in NorCal who listen EXCLUSIVELY to this weird prescribed list of music that includes radio rap, Bay area rap (Mac Dre, Andre Nickatina, hyphy shit) and a couple of acceptable bro-rock bands, of which RHCP and Sublime are the cornerstones. See also the enduring popularity of Pepper and Slightly Stoopid.
I read recently on a blog someone describing a trip to his suburban hometown as a place "where tight pants are still weird and Sublime never got old," which is so OTM it hurts, even in Sacramento, which in terms of population is a pretty major urban center.

someone made the "don't start a Wry-Ott" joke once and i loled

Never knew they did a version of "Scarlet Begonias" until a couple of weeks ago.

xpost, it was "i predict a wry ott" and it was the one post of mine i would put in the hall of fame

I predict a wry Ott.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, March 1, 2006

from awesome nick sylvester (rip) thread

Early in the morning risin' to the street
Light me up that cigarette and I strap shoes on my feet

oh god he wears TEVAS.

They were seriously my favorite band at some point in high school.

yup, and as you said i'm glad to have moved on (and away from certain people who still listen to em) but fuck it if i ever live to see the day where there isn't any real estate left in my heart for sublime. and to the people knocking the lyrics; okay, fair, shit is lame BUT they were 90s california stoners and they don't sound an eighth as ridiculous as they look. i'd even go so far as to say that the lyrics to santeria, which i voted for btw, are good in the context of the song and with the delivery. i know i'm defending the indefensible to alot of you, but you're giving sublime way too much of a hard time.

data rape stylee

hated this band in high school hate them now and fuck southern california

ok might have been a little hyperbolic there

Dear ILM, I appreciate this constant rash of antipathy towards sublime thats been about in the last week, keep it up.

i'll defend socal against kneejerk hate most of the time but in this case, go ahead

hated this band in high school hate them now and fuck southern california

How it took fifty-something posts to get straight to the point I've no idea, but hey I'll take it.

Dear ILM, I appreciate this constant rash of antipathy towards sublime thats been about in the last week, keep it up.

it's a rare show of unity for us.

A Deeper Shade of SoulWhat I Got

walked back my appreciation for the singles after shamed by college friend who read the lyrics closer (but not necessarily correctly), but still think dude knew his way around a melody and socal+hippie shit rubs up against the pleasure centers

"santeria." still like that album. it's catchy.

(it's possible that my view has been colored -- or at least not obstructed -- by not actually personally knowing any of these bro-type cali dudes, or any fraternity brothers of any kind for at least 20 years. i understand that sublime fan frat bros are awful people. but it's just an abstract thing to me.)

I was actually a bit more ambivalent to them two weeks ago, and while there are many far worse things than Santaria or What I Got, it's thanks to that thread about their sub-idiotic song about the LA Riots that I not only can't stand them, but really dislike them. Thinking of all the people I've known who have liked Sublime makes it worse, too.

which thread? (sorry i have not been paying attn. to sublime-related material.)

anyway, american ILM has a massive and mostly well-considered hang-up with bro-culture (see also dave matthews). in the case of sublime i think it sort of unnecessarily trashes a pretty entertaining punky pop band. but i guess it's a small price to pay for holding the line against the cargo-shorted hordes.

(and, you know. i own some cargo-ish shorts. and have been to bonnaroo. i probably am the enemy.)

chaki (rip) and gygax (rip) are the only other ilxors i know who would rep for sublime. i stand tall with them.

guys i kinda hate most of sublime's catalog and i've been known to slowly back away from people at parties who talk about their love for sublime, but do i really have to point out that santeria uses a trope known as the narrator and date rape does not actually advocate date rape?

like, you guys know this and are calling the lyrics indefensible on aesthetic grounds or something, right?

all that said: would vote for "april 29, 1992 (miami)" which for some reason is missing here but in its absence will vote for the bland "what i got"

like, you guys know this and are calling the lyrics indefensible on aesthetic grounds or something, right?

i would fall in this camp, yes... at least wrt date rape

"So I take her to the can" ???? what does this mean????

"Spend some time in America
Dub style!"

what does this have to do with raping a teenage prostitute?

this bad is loathsome and perplexing

hoos, you don't need to be that smart. shit is shit.

"So I take her to the can" ???? what does this mean????

the gentleman is retiring with the young lady to the W.C. (for purposes of fornication)

HOOS pretty much OTM, lots of things to say about why sublime is a no go without resorting to strawmanning the lyrics IMHO

Sublime's best original song is probably "Ebin." The song "40 oz To Freedom" isn't bad either. "Saw Red" with Gwen Stefani was okay.

I like a few of their covers a lot, including "Hope," "We're Only Gonna Die From Our Own Arrogance," "Scarlet Begonias," and "Rivers Of Babylon." I'd rather not vouch for any of their other songs, but these covers are probably their best stuff.

I never understood what the hype was all about with their self-titled.. it's mostly boring to me. The first album is really their only good record IMO.

Which one didn't inspire Jack Johnson?

"Doin' Time," right?

The fact that "Date Rape" doesn't condone date rape doesn't automatically make the lyrics any good!

i think Wrong Way is worse

I SAID REMEMBER THAT

Fuckin and fighting it's all the same
Livin' with Louie dog's the only way to stay sane

basically I could just giggle at these guys for hours

I have a theory that after Nowell died, the rest of the band bumped into Colin Meloy and The Decemberists were born

i do not possibly see where such a connection would come from, but ok. i mean, Meloy is the most horrible thing about The Decemberists, his backing band is p talented. much more so than the Sublime jokers.

why do we have so much hate when what they've got is love

i do not possibly see where such a connection would come from, but ok.

that connection came from reading this link posted by Alfred on Facebook:
http://www.theawl.com/2011/03/somehow-theres-absolutely-no-raping-on-the-decemberists-new-album

... and then rereading the lyrics I posted 3 years ago to this thread

do you ever feel like some people are fronting with this whole OMG I HATE SUBLIME shit nowadays?

While we're making tenuous comparison points, I'm just going to bring up Arrested Development, who also briefly captured the culture's imagination with warm vibes, profundities about the beauty and brevity of life, and questionable if well-intentioned politics, now mostly inspiring "HA NINETIES WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT" reflection.

lol ok, i hadn't seen that article before. now it all makes sense.

... what were Arrested Development's "questionable if well-intentioned politics"?

while speech wasn't the junkie sex fiend nowell was, check out "warm sentiments" and "children play with earth"

are these guys better or worse than the Transplants

okay I know you're not trying to compare a song about a dude trying to process his emotions after he found out his girlfriend had an abortion and a song about being a big soppy afrocentric hippie to any of these Sublime songs because that would be really, really stupid

sorry only you can make really tenuous comparisons between bands, djp

at least I'm not being a quasi racist idiot about it

oh wtf

if you're seriously hurt that I suggested sublime and arrested development had any similarities despite the difference in their lyrical stances, i apologize

Okay,
The way kids are living is 100% European
African boys and girls:
Set down your Nintendo joysticks right now!

Japanese! Nintendo is Japanese. Japan is in Asia.

I am not hurt, and "quasi racist" was way too strong and I apologize for that. I still think calling out those two songs as suspect is incredibly strange, though.

just to clarify, i was not trying to equivocate between the inane shit nowell says about dark subjects and the inane shit speech said about dark subjects, but note that both were '90s-identified post-hiphop hippie good time groups that said inane shit about dark subjects.

And I don't think it's incredibly strange to call out songs that incoherently race bait and have a guy telling a woman who just had an abortion "after I scold U, maybe I can mold u to share your truths with me. To tell U the truth, you made a mistake."

i have run into corny motherfuckers here who earnestly talk about arrested development as some shit people should be up on. :(

I've never raped anyone at least as far as I can remember. We were at a party a long time ago and we were all talking about how much date rape sucked. This guy was like, "Date rape isn't so bad; if it wasn't for date rape I'd never get laid." Everyone at the party was bummed out about it, but I was cracking up and I wrote a funny song about it.[2]

game recognizes game?

I saw Fishbone last month and they covered "Date Rape" and I was like "well, it's late, I saw enough of this show to be done now" because ugh it is rough watching somebody sing "Date Rape"

there were a lot of Sublime fans in college but when they played the first album, it was more about Ruca/40 oz/Smoke Two Joints, plus the Dead and Marley covers. I dont remember people playing Date Rape all that much...

I remember a while back wanting to write an exegetical essay about Sublime and "Wrong Way" which I look back now and am glad I didn't...

Yeah, Date Rape is buried so deep in the second side of the tape, sorta at the end with the less vital tracks (the decendants cover, krs-one, thanx) and right after another of the weaker songs on the album (Ebin).