Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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More from the Senate (and this all makes sense from here):

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/331842-in-senate-pessimism-over-obamacare-repeal


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Republican senators say they don’t see a way to get healthcare reform over the finish line, even if the House passes a bill this week.

A senior GOP senator said the chances of getting 51 votes for legislation based on the House healthcare bill are less than 1 in 5.

The senator also put the chances that the House bill will meet Senate budgetary rules preventing a filibuster at less than 1 in 5, meaning portions of the legislation would have to be removed.

Lawmakers are keeping quiet about their concerns because they want to help Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), whose job they fear may be in jeopardy if the House fails again to approve an ObamaCare repeal bill.

“Paul Ryan is a talented and thoughtful legislator and leader. It’s important for him to succeed,” said one GOP senator.

So basically they're risking what they are for temporary stability. Who knew!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link

Further:

Cornyn said the House bill — if it passes — will have to be revised.

“I suspect the bill the House passes will be modified if for no other reason that the reconciliation rules would require it,” he said. “My goal would be if they pass a bill, which I hope they will, it will come over here and we’ll do our best work to cobble together 51 votes.”

Another GOP lawmakers said the House bill will have to be changed “a lot.”

Some senators argue the push in the House could set up the Senate for blame.

“All they care about is getting it out of the House so they can say that the Senate couldn’t pass healthcare reform,” said a second GOP senator who requested anonymity.

Still, this lawmaker said GOP senators are ready to help Ryan out even if it means they shoulder the blame for killing a bill that faces a steep climb to enactment.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link

“Paul Ryan is a talented and thoughtful legislato

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:24 (seven years ago) link

As opposed to an alto or soprano.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link

maybe the senate GOP will find the upper bracket tax savings parsimonious, and rewrite the bill to cut them further? they can still 'reconcile' if they raise taxes on everyone else who doesn't have enough skin in the game

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link

“Paul Ryan is a talented and thoughtful legislator and leader. It’s important for him to succeed,” said one GOP senator.

It's important to cheer for your kid when he crosses the finish line even if he's in last place but I didn't realize this was a justification for killing people. I wonder if this GOP senator has ever complained about participation trophies.

JoeStork, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link

My Ohio people on Twitter now saying Joyce and Turner are solid "no" votes.

Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

I wonder if this GOP senator has ever complained about participation trophies.

he received one for being on the Debate Team iirc

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

As opposed to an alto or soprano.

or a castrato

I don't really like any of these albums (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:33 (seven years ago) link

there's still time for him to become a castrato

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:35 (seven years ago) link

is that covered under the congressional health plan

Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:36 (seven years ago) link

no, but members of congress are exempt

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:37 (seven years ago) link

Cry, the beloved Speaker

I've covered Paul Ryan for a while. Never seen him so anxious. Fidgeting in his seat; clasping hands, rolling neck, opening/shutting binder.

— Tim Alberta (@TimAlberta) May 4, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:40 (seven years ago) link

Let me know when he shits his pants and dies.

JoeStork, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:41 (seven years ago) link

LBJ he is not

Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:42 (seven years ago) link

I've covered Paul Ryan for a while. Never seen him so anxious. Fidgeting in his seat; clasping hands, rolling neck, opening/shutting binder, snorting coke

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:44 (seven years ago) link

I want the last paragraph in Ryan's biography to read, “Slowly, very slowly, like two unhurried compass needles, the feet turned towards the right; north, north-east, east, south-east, south, south-south-west; then paused, and after a few seconds, turned as unhurriedly back towards the left. South-south-west, south, south-east, east...”

Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:45 (seven years ago) link

Indeed.

Cases upon cases of beer just rolled into the Capitol on a cart covered in a sheet. Spotted Bud Light peeking out from the sheet

— Alexandra Jaffe (@ajjaffe) May 4, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:04 (seven years ago) link

Fidgeting in his seat; clasping hands, rolling neck, opening/shutting binder.... just went full Scanners

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link

WTF who are the two Democrats who just voted for this?

Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link

they just changed their votes.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link

Back to zero.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

aaaaand it's passed. good luck guys.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

Roffle. Wonder what prompted this?

Amash a late yes.

— Richard Rubin (@RichardRubinDC) May 4, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

christ

marcos, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

this is gonna pass by one vote isn't it

frogbs, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link

it just did

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link

by 2 reps. 217-213.

behavioral sink (Sanpaku), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link

Making the Senate's job even worse from their standpoint. If this had been an easy majority that's one thing; as it stands, obviously a whole lot of looking at everyone else going to happen.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link

not sure how the democrats singing 'na na na na hey hey goodbye' on the house floor can be so confident that this will come back to hurt the republicans, but we'll see

Dan S, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link

Apt Twitter comment: "Now it’s the House’s turn to root for paralysis in the Senate."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:25 (seven years ago) link

yea that's the "hope Trump wins cuz he'll be easy to defeat" thing coming back, how'd that work out?

frogbs, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:26 (seven years ago) link

hey i win this bracket

@SteveRattner May 2
Under (the MacArthur) amendment, here are est hikes in premiums for ppl w/:
Asthma: $4k
Diabetes: $5.5k
Pregnancy: $17k
Arthritis: $26k
Cancer: $140k!

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:27 (seven years ago) link

jesus

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:29 (seven years ago) link

The attack ad writes itself: the GOP celebrated on the floor of Congress when they took away health care from millions of Americans

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:29 (seven years ago) link

If I were Bud Light I'd be desperate not to see those photos.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:30 (seven years ago) link

lol the prevision to exempt Congress from their own shitty healthcare plans is still in there, these guys do not care about the optics one bit

frogbs, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:31 (seven years ago) link

their base doesnt see the optics

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:32 (seven years ago) link

cant these congresscritters buy beer thats not disgusting and maybe a brand thats actually american owned?

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link

the house is gerrymandered as tight as the rictus of betsy devos's "smile" and there are what, 10 more democratic than republican senators up for re-election in 2018? can't wait for the midterms!

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link

I won't go as far as actually wishing it, but I certainly wouldn't discourage a flesh-eating virus from ravaging the bodies and faces of everyone who voted for this thing.

Jigsaw Pizzle (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 May 2017 19:02 (seven years ago) link

.@Reince exiting gop cloakroom tells me: "The president stepped up and helped punt the ball into the end zone."

— Molly Hooper (@mollyhooper) May 4, 2017

Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Thursday, 4 May 2017 19:04 (seven years ago) link

do these guys even watch sports?

you could say he threw the ball into the basketball ring

frogbs, Thursday, 4 May 2017 19:14 (seven years ago) link

Enough to find an offsides ploy with Garland and Gorsuch palatable.

As self-described conservatives, they don't seem to respect the past norms very much. I'm all for the media banning the term "conservative" for anyone who can't quote Burke. Reactionary is a a fine term.

behavioral sink (Sanpaku), Thursday, 4 May 2017 19:17 (seven years ago) link

And it's already dead:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/senate-wont-vote-on-house-passed-healthcare-bill/article/2622152

Senate Republicans said Thursday they won't vote on the House-passed bill to repeal and replace Obamacare, but will write their own legislation instead.

A Senate proposal is now being developed by a 12-member working group. It will attempt to incorporate elements of the House bill, senators said, but will not take up the House bill as a starting point and change it through the amendment process.

"The safest thing to say is there will be a Senate bill, but it will look at what the House has done and see how much of that we can incorporate in a product that works for us in reconciliation," said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 19:26 (seven years ago) link

...which will likely pass with the fifty-one votes needed, I suspect, for Maine's Susan Collins is on board

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link

It's less the pass, more the try and put the two together that'll be the 'fun' bit.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 19:41 (seven years ago) link

wouldn't the reconciliation period be over by then and require 60 votes tho

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 4 May 2017 19:42 (seven years ago) link


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