Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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"kind of cures" are all that's gonna be available to anyone after this abomination

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:31 (seven years ago) link

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/04/politics/health-care-vote/index.html

The mood among House Republicans is jubilant Thursday morning as they prepare to vote for their bill to repeal and replace Obamacare.

The first test vote easily passed along party lines, with a final vote on the bill expected in the 1 p.m. ET hour on the legislation, would dismantle the pillars of the Affordable Care Act and make sweeping changes to the nation's health care system.

The final vote will be very close, but many Republicans were already in a celebratory mode in a morning meeting in the House basement. The theme song to "Rocky" played as members filed in.

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:31 (seven years ago) link

yes, i remember that moment in rocky where he fought and fought and then died because he couldn't afford health insurance

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:33 (seven years ago) link

Let's see how long the wealthy stay wealthy when the money consumers would've used on goods and services *poured into guns in ammo as directed by NRA* are instead funneled directly into paying off $8 million medical bills *pointed at them*. xpost and fixed.

we have no facts and we're voting no (Hunt3r), Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:33 (seven years ago) link

i would love it if sylvester stallone appeared and punched them in the face

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link

lol almost fixed, but words are hard.

we have no facts and we're voting no (Hunt3r), Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link

well he got cancer in Creed but there were no death panels

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link

Kate Upton could have written a better amendment

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link

will the senate pass this tax cut through reconciliation, or will mcconnell nuke the legislation filibuster? i can't wait to find out : )

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link

a glowing NYT story published yesterday claimed as evidence of Senate bipartisanship that members of both parties overwhelmingly want to keep the legislation filibuster. But eh

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:54 (seven years ago) link

And here's a press release explaining Ros Lehtnen's no vote.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:55 (seven years ago) link

that makes too much moral sense for a typical republican i'd bet though. to think the TEA party 'took back america' in 2010 crying foul about "passing the bill to find out what's in it". if only more of these people were capable of shame

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:58 (seven years ago) link

Obviously nobody knows anything anymore, but "Donald Trump and the GOP took trillions of dollars from their voters and gave them to their donors" is a hell of a message

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link

I should note that my boy Curbelo is one of three reps in South Florida w/ more people covered under ACA exchanges than any other.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link

Meantime, more on the religious order EO front -- when you've got the Alliance Defending Freedom crew complaining about it...

http://www.adfmedia.org/News/PRDetail/10252

During his campaign, President Trump stated that the first priority of his administration would be to preserve and protect religious liberty. In speeches, he said the Little Sisters of the Poor and other people of faith will always have their religious liberty protected on his watch and will not have to face bullying from the government because of their religious beliefs. Religious voters took him at his word, giving the president a mandate to affirm and protect Americans’ first freedom.

The current outline of the Religious Liberty Executive Order released by White House officials recalls those campaign promises but leaves them unfulfilled.

I have yet to see any 'typical' religious right activist type of the sort I've noticed over the years give any real praise to this at all, and mostly as noted it's either disappointment or just outright scorn.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:02 (seven years ago) link

Which makes this all the more funny.

At National Day of Prayer event, Trump says if he hadn't won the presidency, "I'd be out enjoying my life."

— Julie Davis (@juliehdavis) May 4, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:05 (seven years ago) link

Dude's on a roll today, it turns out:

"I could use some good lawyers" -- Trump says in a Rose Garden ceremony

— Annie Linskey (@AnnieLinskey) May 4, 2017

"We're gonna take care of a lot of people, great great people." -- Trump, on today's Obamacare repeal vote.

— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) May 4, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:07 (seven years ago) link

Sarlin meanwhile had a good point re the Senate that talk is obviously cheap among GOP types there. (As elsewhere!) So question is, how hard do people want to go to the mat for this in the end.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:08 (seven years ago) link

maybe how like they slide gorsuch in, they want to repeal obamacare pre-impeachment?

sally yates might be bringing hellfire monday

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link

a look inside the GOP house deliberations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUt2BNwG3CE

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:13 (seven years ago) link

i wouldn't hold your breath xp

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:13 (seven years ago) link

i thought this cut to the core

Finally, some honesty from the GOP: pic.twitter.com/3sKoy4Zuad

— Pixelated Boat (@pixelatedboat) May 4, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:15 (seven years ago) link

pricks are people too, my friend

Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link

More from the Senate (and this all makes sense from here):

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/331842-in-senate-pessimism-over-obamacare-repeal


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Republican senators say they don’t see a way to get healthcare reform over the finish line, even if the House passes a bill this week.

A senior GOP senator said the chances of getting 51 votes for legislation based on the House healthcare bill are less than 1 in 5.

The senator also put the chances that the House bill will meet Senate budgetary rules preventing a filibuster at less than 1 in 5, meaning portions of the legislation would have to be removed.

Lawmakers are keeping quiet about their concerns because they want to help Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), whose job they fear may be in jeopardy if the House fails again to approve an ObamaCare repeal bill.

“Paul Ryan is a talented and thoughtful legislator and leader. It’s important for him to succeed,” said one GOP senator.

So basically they're risking what they are for temporary stability. Who knew!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link

Further:

Cornyn said the House bill — if it passes — will have to be revised.

“I suspect the bill the House passes will be modified if for no other reason that the reconciliation rules would require it,” he said. “My goal would be if they pass a bill, which I hope they will, it will come over here and we’ll do our best work to cobble together 51 votes.”

Another GOP lawmakers said the House bill will have to be changed “a lot.”

Some senators argue the push in the House could set up the Senate for blame.

“All they care about is getting it out of the House so they can say that the Senate couldn’t pass healthcare reform,” said a second GOP senator who requested anonymity.

Still, this lawmaker said GOP senators are ready to help Ryan out even if it means they shoulder the blame for killing a bill that faces a steep climb to enactment.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link

“Paul Ryan is a talented and thoughtful legislato

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:24 (seven years ago) link

As opposed to an alto or soprano.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link

maybe the senate GOP will find the upper bracket tax savings parsimonious, and rewrite the bill to cut them further? they can still 'reconcile' if they raise taxes on everyone else who doesn't have enough skin in the game

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link

“Paul Ryan is a talented and thoughtful legislator and leader. It’s important for him to succeed,” said one GOP senator.

It's important to cheer for your kid when he crosses the finish line even if he's in last place but I didn't realize this was a justification for killing people. I wonder if this GOP senator has ever complained about participation trophies.

JoeStork, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link

My Ohio people on Twitter now saying Joyce and Turner are solid "no" votes.

Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

I wonder if this GOP senator has ever complained about participation trophies.

he received one for being on the Debate Team iirc

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

As opposed to an alto or soprano.

or a castrato

I don't really like any of these albums (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:33 (seven years ago) link

there's still time for him to become a castrato

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:35 (seven years ago) link

is that covered under the congressional health plan

Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:36 (seven years ago) link

no, but members of congress are exempt

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:37 (seven years ago) link

Cry, the beloved Speaker

I've covered Paul Ryan for a while. Never seen him so anxious. Fidgeting in his seat; clasping hands, rolling neck, opening/shutting binder.

— Tim Alberta (@TimAlberta) May 4, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:40 (seven years ago) link

Let me know when he shits his pants and dies.

JoeStork, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:41 (seven years ago) link

LBJ he is not

Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:42 (seven years ago) link

I've covered Paul Ryan for a while. Never seen him so anxious. Fidgeting in his seat; clasping hands, rolling neck, opening/shutting binder, snorting coke

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:44 (seven years ago) link

I want the last paragraph in Ryan's biography to read, “Slowly, very slowly, like two unhurried compass needles, the feet turned towards the right; north, north-east, east, south-east, south, south-south-west; then paused, and after a few seconds, turned as unhurriedly back towards the left. South-south-west, south, south-east, east...”

Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:45 (seven years ago) link

Indeed.

Cases upon cases of beer just rolled into the Capitol on a cart covered in a sheet. Spotted Bud Light peeking out from the sheet

— Alexandra Jaffe (@ajjaffe) May 4, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:04 (seven years ago) link

Fidgeting in his seat; clasping hands, rolling neck, opening/shutting binder.... just went full Scanners

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link

WTF who are the two Democrats who just voted for this?

Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link

they just changed their votes.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link

Back to zero.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

aaaaand it's passed. good luck guys.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

Roffle. Wonder what prompted this?

Amash a late yes.

— Richard Rubin (@RichardRubinDC) May 4, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

christ

marcos, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

this is gonna pass by one vote isn't it

frogbs, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link

it just did

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link


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