Did you buy a Sublime album in the '90s?

I have guitar world from 96(?) that has a joint interview w/Claypool & Watt. IIRC, they spend a lot of time praising each other.

the sloppy 40 oz to freedom could me minutemeny if you replace sun ra with lee perry and television with descendents

i'm not good w/ song titles but there are some where Nowell is totally doing some D. Boon-style blurting and abrupt soloing and the rhythm section does little tempo changes.

do they sound more like minutemen than red hot chili peppers?

point isn't that Sublime sounded totally like the Minutemen 24/7, just that they showed the influence more overtly than, say, anyone else who was talking them up in the mid-90s or appearing on Ball Hog Or Tugboat?

xpost - yes they do

don't think i bought any. my brother did and i would steal his all the time tho. tbh i think their singles are all pretty awful (save 'doin time') but esp. on the first album it's some pretty decent ska. i never listen to them but i don't hate hate 'em. i pretty much have no interest in hearing the s/t ever again tho

i gotta give them credit for being the only mainstream alt-rock band to ever claim The Minutemen as an influence who actually sound like The Minutemen.

That's really funny. I enjoy a ton of '80s SST and indie/punk stuff but actually have never liked/enjoyed the Minutemen. Why? Back in college, I played Double Nickels and for some reason it reminded me of Sublime et al.

Maybe I wasn't far off base, if I'm not the only one to notice...

they were the biggest band in the world in the South Bay circa 1996. it was terrible. actually come to think of it, they might still be the biggest band in the South Bay to this day.

― tylerw, Monday, May 4, 2009 12:23 PM (40 minutes ago)

Dude, The Carpenters!

I've never heard of Sublime, must be an American thing.

it kinda hurts my heart to see the minutement dragged into this.

ug minuteMEN

Good fucking lord no.

every good band influences bad bands, it's not dragging anyone's name through the mud to point it out

never liked this band, never bought any of their albums, but i find them hard to hate

^^^^

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the Minutemen are the Faith No More to Sublime's Papa Roach

no

def seems like a case of them being superpopular and revered amongst a certain set causing certain other people to overreact to them in a negative way.

It's just a case of their big hits being super annoying (and unfortunately briefly omnipresent.) Also hating dudes wearing cargo shorts.

Fuck no, dude. And I own all kinds of humiliating crap.

they were the biggest band in the world in the South Bay circa 1996. it was terrible. actually come to think of it, they might still be the biggest band in the South Bay to this day.

― tylerw, Monday, 4 May 2009 19:23 (59 minutes ago) Permalink

I walked by some bar at hermosa beach yesterday and I could hear some sublime cover band inside

there's a sublime cover band in providence

their message is universal

what is their name: Santiera?

I probably know all of the lyrics to the sublime songs that got radio play

sry

i live on the east coast and "badfish: a tribute to sublime" plays a biggish venue around here seemingly multiple times a year

it seems to me that a more accurate predecessor for Sublime is Fishbone, not Minutemen.

badfish are from pvd

we are so proud

Badfish does the same down here on the Gulf Coast too.

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i live on the east coast and "badfish: a tribute to sublime" plays a biggish venue around here seemingly multiple times a year

― cumlord millionaire (some dude), Monday, May 4, 2009 3:27 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

^^

I always saw sublime as propagating that red hot chili peppers / fishbone alternafunk mess

minutemen didn't really cross my mind

do you think they ever played around for a few months as "date rape: a tribute to sublime" or "caress me down: a tribute to sublime"?

"I always saw sublime as propagating that red hot chili peppers / fishbone alternafunk mess

minutemen didn't really cross my mind"

Hate to say that Minuteman were (along with the Gang of Four) one of the biggest influences on that mess.

Gang Of Four was a big influence on the Peps.

Don't lump Fishbone and RHCP in with Sublime, guys, come on

hmmm....who writes more retarded lyrics? keidis or brad?

tough call^

Keidis is bad, but BRAD is uggggghhhhh

oh come on, that is not a tough call at all

RHCP didn't become unforgivably retarded until 1996! They have like an 11-year span of greatness before becoming a hollow self-parody.

No, I mean, RHCP lyris have always been ridiculous

But compare

Now while I shower in the rain
I watch my dolphin swim away
The one who listens to the surf
Can feel the pulse beat of the earth
And like my dolphin swims so free
The sun does swim into the sea

vs.

DATE RAPE STYLEE!

sorry, I was responding to M@tt

"They have like an 11-year span of greatness before becoming a hollow self-parody."

Blech.

really doe?

You could be from park ave
Or from a park bench
You could be a politican
Or a bitchy princess
But if you're lookin' for a fist
And you're lookin' to unite
Put your knuckleheads together
Make a fist and fight
Not to your death
And not to your grave
I'm talking about that freedom
Fight like a brave

yeah, RHCP lyrics were always bad, dude

but Sublime lyrics are on a total other level

wait but whiney, did you just call the red hot chili peppers the "peps"? i thought u were from long island not long beach?

I'm gonna ride a sabertooth horse
Through the Hollywood hills

this is not stupid, it is awesome

i had a big peppers stage from 1992-1999, so i've earned the reight to say peps

i liked One Hot Minute at one point

too far

i mean, overall though i should say that yeah peppers destroy sublime, they have some joints u can't front on.

it should really go without saying

Heh, me too.

Lol I just remembered whenever the local Sublime cover band played STP all the kids would yell "I'm even learning how to COOK SPEED" RHPS style.

that was what he sang live, iirc.

RHPS?

rocky horror?

sure. i got the third album from the free magazine record club (3rd or 4th time joining) because i don't know why but probably "what i got". didn't like it much and sold it w/in a couple weeks.

Yeah rocky horror. Tho growing up in Gwinnett County no doubt some of those kids had actually learned to cooked meth.

somebody in my facebook feed just unironically posted a youtube to April 29 1992

sorry, i just find it moving.

Yes and I have since sold that shit. But I still like What I Got

i still think the band hepcat is pretty good

― los blue jeans, Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

haha yeah they were pretty good

you know, one musician I didnt end up seeking out from sublime references was KRS One. What were his teachings on hambugers, steak, elijah muhammed, and the welfare state?

Although I despise them Sublime is one of the bands I think most about. They were unavoidable growing up in the late 90s in Southern California and informed so much of my high school/formative life experiences. I never owned their records but they were ubiquitous at the time.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKHrmJQVpv8

http://gc.guitarcenter.com/sessions/images-tv/sublime/sublime-top.jpg

Fuck no, dude!!

never owned any of their albums, but still have a few downloads like "Santeria" and "What I Got" on my mobile players.

Lol I just remembered whenever the local Sublime cover band played STP all the kids would yell "I'm even learning how to COOK SPEED" RHPS style.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:55 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that was what he sang live, iirc.

― frogsclovetofu (beachville), Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:57 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

RHPS?

― suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:28 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Whiney all trying to puzzle out "Red Hot...Pilli Sheppers?"