Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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So they're going to try and vote tomorrow. Fun!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:23 (seven years ago) link

Has Issa said how he's gonna vote?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:27 (seven years ago) link

Not yet. He's fucked either way imo so he might as well vote yes

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:28 (seven years ago) link

I know it's none of my business, but...

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:31 (seven years ago) link

according to this Issa is still "undecided" - if any of these guys are your reps please call them:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-7h_7sXcAAo2eu.jpg

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:36 (seven years ago) link

I don't get the rush other than to light the GOP moderates on fire.. and even then, this could be so colossally stupid it damages even non-moderate pols?

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:52 (seven years ago) link

President Manbaby wants a "win" is why

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:53 (seven years ago) link

I guess the reconciliation clock is ticking too...

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:55 (seven years ago) link

8 billion dollars to paper over pre-existing conditions is some bulllllllllllllllllllllls shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:58 (seven years ago) link

frelinghuysen? jesus christ being on that losing henry clay ticket seems to have some long fucking coattails

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:58 (seven years ago) link

Nate Silver is why Clinton lost the election

akm, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:59 (seven years ago) link

It's gonna pass this time. Stupidity and evil can only be constrained for so long.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:00 (seven years ago) link

yeah banking on the senate to stop this is like relying on the voters to stop trump

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:00 (seven years ago) link

Calling Curbelo tomorrow, but he's leaning no.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:01 (seven years ago) link

My rep is a Dem.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:07 (seven years ago) link

But Upton wants to get to yes. He hates Obamacare.

After the 2010 elections thrust Republicans into the majority, Upton overcame concerns with his moderate nature to win the coveted Energy and Commerce Committee gavel.

His presentation to leadership consisted of him pulling out the game Jenga, stacking up the series of blocks into a high pile, as the bemused lawmakers wondered what he was doing.

damn america sonned in a jenga beef

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:08 (seven years ago) link

"Concerns with his moderate nature"

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:15 (seven years ago) link

gotta bad feeling abt this. no matter how shitty AHCA is, it will be the "win" (in the short term) that they've all been salivating over

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:15 (seven years ago) link

What's the win -- passing in the House? It means nothing if it doesn't clear the Senate. If it does, then I'll worry

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:24 (seven years ago) link

Once it passes the House (which it will), something will pass the Senate. Something fucked and evil. If not quite as fucked and evil as this, then something maybe 2% less fucked and evil.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:35 (seven years ago) link

^yeah kinda my thinking

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:41 (seven years ago) link

health insurance will become hereditary

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:44 (seven years ago) link

The vibe as such from the Senate appears to be "Thanks for nothing if you DO pass this, you jerks."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:53 (seven years ago) link

Yeah Senate math is quite different.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 May 2017 01:18 (seven years ago) link

Bernie, Warren and the rest of the Senate w/ some bullshit

Strong and tough line of questioning from @Dena. Pathetic and dismal answers from Sanders on every question. https://t.co/6mQ6h72Ynl

— Hussain (@Chemzes) May 3, 2017

http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/senators-un-letter-israel-palestine-sanders-warren

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 May 2017 07:04 (seven years ago) link

Is $8 billion a lot of money?

Well, one thing not answered in the article is the time period over which this $8 billion would be spent. Is this a one year number? Is it a ten year total? The article doesn't give an answer to this basic question.

To get some idea of the need, the average cost of treating the 10 percent least healthy people is more than $50,000 a year per person. This means that on an annual basis the cost of treating the 30 million least healthy people in the country would be over $1.5 trillion. Many of these people are getting Medicare, Medicaid, or employer provided insurance, but if one-third of them showed up in the high risk pools, then their costs would be over $500 billion a year.

In this case, if the $8 billion is a one-year figure, it will cover 1.6 percent of the cost of treating this population. On the other hand, if it is a ten-year figure it will cover 0.16 percent of the cost of treating the less healthy people who show up in high risk pools. Either way, it is a tiny fraction of the cost, but it would still be nice to know which one it us.

from dean baker obv

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 May 2017 08:24 (seven years ago) link

People with the highest percentage of preexisting conditions live in states won by Trump, according to Steve Rattner.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2017 10:27 (seven years ago) link

he walks on, doesn't look back - he pretends he can't hear her. starts to whistle as he crosses the street - seems embarrassed to be there

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 4 May 2017 10:36 (seven years ago) link

he says 'would you respect me- If I didn't have this gun? Cause without it, I don't get it, and that's why I carry one'

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 4 May 2017 10:47 (seven years ago) link

And I said, "What about Breakfast at Tiffany's?" She said, "I think I remember the film, and as I recall, I think we both kinda liked it" And I said, "Well, that's the one thing we've got."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2017 11:57 (seven years ago) link

If you like Piña Coladas and getting caught in the rain, If you're not into yoga, if you have half a brain

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 4 May 2017 12:01 (seven years ago) link

so when are they voting on this

frogbs, Thursday, 4 May 2017 13:30 (seven years ago) link

The first line of that George Will column is pretty good though

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Thursday, 4 May 2017 13:34 (seven years ago) link

Rumblings on the purported religious liberty EO to come today are that the religious right are let down if not deeply pissed off.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 13:39 (seven years ago) link

Supposedly a sprightly 40 min of debate on the bill today! We can all be dead by dinner

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 4 May 2017 13:40 (seven years ago) link

don't care what they think or care about xp

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 4 May 2017 14:08 (seven years ago) link

If you like Piña Coladas and getting caught in the rain, If you're not into yoga, if you have half a brain

― The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 4 May 2017 12:01 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pm'd u a dick pic, let's make this happen

gnaw on my meat oreo (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 4 May 2017 14:11 (seven years ago) link

im kind of worried about this bill passing

marcos, Thursday, 4 May 2017 14:12 (seven years ago) link

it's going to pass

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 4 May 2017 14:13 (seven years ago) link

yeah it's gonna pass

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 4 May 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link

Rumblings on the purported religious liberty EO to come today are that the religious right are let down if not deeply pissed off.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, May 4, 2017 8:39 AM (thirty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if the religious right doesn't even like it, why even issue the order at all? Just seems like a recipe for more protests and another court defeat

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 May 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link

then again, why anything is a fairly futile question at this point.

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 May 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link

the issue is the senate right?

Saw one story that claims the EO is all about making it easier for Trump to fundraise in churches.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 14:15 (seven years ago) link

acc to NPR this morning the Johnson Rule is hardly ever enforced vs churches

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 May 2017 14:17 (seven years ago) link

Basic breakdown of what happens next re AHCA

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/04/politics/republicans-health-care-donald-trump/index.html

Point 5 seems like the key one:

5. The Senate changes it drastically: Senate Republicans have already expressed concern with the end of Medicaid expansion by 2020 -- which is in the House bill -- and it's hard for me to imagine some of the more moderate elements in the chamber will be happy about the pre-existing condition provisions. If the Senate radically alters the bill, which I think is more likely than not, it will have to a) go to a conference committee, and if that committee can report out a deal, then it has to b) be re-voted on by the House. If the bill is moved to the center by Senate Republicans, is there any certainty that the conservative Freedom Caucus will go along with it?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 14:18 (seven years ago) link

if Trump is personally able to grift a bunch of mega-churches that would be sort of funny i guess

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 4 May 2017 14:19 (seven years ago) link

i mean, more so than he already has

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 4 May 2017 14:20 (seven years ago) link


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