stephen king c/d?

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They're doing Dark Tower as both a movie AND a TV series. I think the series is going to be set in the past (adapting Wizard and Glass, I believe).

Isn't the TV series vaporware?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 23:25 (six years ago) link

I dunno, I thought it was just a forgotten artifact from when Ron Howard was planning to direct, but I read something about it in a recent news item about the movie.

How many gigabyte is in trilobites (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link

IT really, really calls for like a ten- or twelve-episode streaming season. Suspect a lot of King would really work in that format since he writes so long that movies tend to boil out so much of what makes them feel King-like, or spend so much time cramming in plot points that actually building up the suspense and creepiness of any given scene, or the sense of wrongness about a bend in the path in the woods or whatever, is just impossible.

Dark Tower is probably unfilmable in any format as written since it just careens around so much in terms of genre and tone, and huge portions of it need a profound rethink (almost everything to do with Susannah IIRC). I mean how do you make a series where the first act is a lone silent Clint Eastwood spooky postapocalyptic western plus succubi, then it becomes a merry group adventure on the road from genre exercise to genre exercise, doubles back to Clint Eastwood for a book-length flashback of the olden days, and then turns abruptly into a barrage of fanservice and shoutouts alternating with the characters saving Stephen King from a car crash, and on and on... I mean you could massage some of that out I guess? It's just, like, barely a 'story,' it's not really about anything, just he told some stories and built up affection for the characters so people wanted to see the journey through.

✓ (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 04:03 (six years ago) link

(That said the idea of doing just a single film that's a reinterpretation or heavily altered retelling of some portion or episode of Dark Tower seems like a totally fine idea, just another parallel narrative intersecting King's sprawling metaverse. Plus I love the casting of Elba as Roland so who am I kidding I'll go and see this for sure.)

✓ (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 04:04 (six years ago) link

And here ya go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjwfqXTebIY

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 13:32 (six years ago) link

omg what should the first s king book i read be

surm, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 14:42 (six years ago) link

All of them at once.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 14:44 (six years ago) link

! if you had to pick ONE tho

surm, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link

xpost Pretty orange & teal-y.

I think I read the first book when it came out but don't remember a thing about it. Is this like "The Neverending Story" with guns?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link

Read Salem's Lot first, I'd say, or The Dead Zone. Something from the initial star-making run but before he started churning out the verging-on-self-parody material like Christine and Firestarter. Of course, I can't vouch for the last two decades' worth of stuff. I think Dolores Claiborne is the most recent I've read.

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link

Salem's Lot!

surm, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link

Start with Night Shift/short stories.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link

Night Shift is a great place to start. Varies wildly in style, but some of those stories are absolute classics and everything in there is at least super-readable. I'd do Salem's Lot first though since there are two stories related to it in that collection.

how's life, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 15:05 (six years ago) link

MISERY

one of his best, not very supernatural, the one that got me back into him

flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link

this is very exciting. SUMMER OF STEPHEN

surm, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link

Easy there cowboy - save your excitement for the first time you read one of his descriptions of breasts.

how's life, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

Night Shift is my automatic go-to recommendation for a King newbie. If you aren't feeling it with that one, you can safely stop there and say you tried.

How many gigabyte is in trilobites (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

Salems Lot is a good pick. Gets you into his pulpy style

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

verging-on-self-parody material like Christine

Certainly not his best book, but I totally loved Christine.

I don't really like any of these albums (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I just read it for the first time last year. I dig the movie but the novel had a whole lot more going on.

Jigsaw Pizzle (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link

! if you had to pick ONE tho

It, hands down

Evan R, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link

Nonono, stay the hell away from IT!

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link

That was my first King and it really soured me on King.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

imo IT is his masterpiece, might as well start there if you have some time on your hands... not that it really takes that long to read, took me a month of leisurely reading

flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link

It taken me eternity

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link

You never It.

Jigsaw Pizzle (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link

I agree with 'Salem's Lot and Night Shift as the obvious "first King" contenders. My first was Firestarter, which was fine but in retrospect not his best work.

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link

that trailer.

peter jackson directing or something?

s'rong, unstable (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

roland deschain is not a fucking power ranger.

s'rong, unstable (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

That's debatable.

Jigsaw Pizzle (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link

i like Elba there but McConaughey looks spot on

nomar, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link

how have people not realised Idris Elba (one career-making performance aside) is a terrible actor at this point

Number None, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link

I second 'Salem's Lot and Night Shift as the ideal entry points, with the original version of The Stand another solid contender.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link

he was good in Zootopia xp

flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link

ah hes great i mean i dunno if he acts i dont be looking but hes so fucking cool

but even without the matrix shite there i dunno if hes roland. hes not near wasted enough for starters

s'rong, unstable (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

king entry point.... eye of the dragon, nightmares and dreamscapes

s'rong, unstable (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

i feel like you can kind of start anywhere and if you dig his style, it doesn't matter if the book is a lesser work... like the first thing I read was Dreamcatcher (fwiw I was 10), and i've been a fan ever since.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link

i will say CUJO is one you absolutely have to check out, not to be overlooked... just finished it last night, it's batshit insane (infamously the novel he doesn't remember writing at all bc of his drug addiction), really fucking dark, the prose is just vicious.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link

It is his best book and although it's on the longer side it goes down really easy and is in a lot of ways his most representative book, so might as well start there.

Salem's Lot was the first one I read and although it was genuinely scary at times, the characters weren't very fun and the writing wasn't all that lively and memorable. Go with It.

Evan R, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link

I really enjoyed The Dark Zone, too, which was also one of the first ones I read, but it doesn't have the epic sweep of some of his better books

Evan R, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:16 (six years ago) link

Dead Zone? Or Dark Tower?

I don't really like any of these albums (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link

or the Dark Half?

nomar, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

lol

I don't really like any of these albums (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

lol he's written too many books. Dead Zone was the one.

The Dark Half sucked. Like, really sucked.

Evan R, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

roland deschain is not a fucking power ranger.

― s'rong, unstable (darraghmac), Wednesday, May 3, 2017 3:58 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sweet jesus it just occurred to me, is roland's last name a reference to renowned Maine weatherproofer Dave Deschain, of the wacky self-produced commercials???

gimmesomehawnz (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link

"Keep out the rain, call Dave Deschain"

"Raindrop I thought I got ridda yoo!"

gimmesomehawnz (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

how do you get "Power Ranger" from that trailer

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link

Read Salem's Lot first, I'd say, or The Dead Zone. Something from the initial star-making run but before he started churning out the verging-on-self-parody material like Christine and Firestarter. Of course, I can't vouch for the last two decades' worth of stuff. I think Dolores Claiborne is the most recent I've read.

― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.)

christine and firestarter are prime cocaine era stephen king. is "christine" the one he doesn't even remember writing?

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link

No, that's Cujo.

I don't really like any of these albums (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 21:39 (six years ago) link

It's Cujo! Someone asks that every 50 posts or so despite it being mentioned every 50 posts or so, it's weird xpost

albvivertine, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link


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