Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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i personally am angry

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:45 (seven years ago) link

Today you have talkradio/Foxsphere and beyond basically yelling "WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU" at Trump. A few more repeats of that...

this will all be immediately forgotten as soon as Trump tweets something incendiary/stupid, waves his dick at our "enemies", signs another executive order etc.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:47 (seven years ago) link

lol

“When DeMint went in, Heritage became very political. It changed it from a highly respected think tank to just a partisan tool and more ideological — more of a tea party organization than a think tank,” said Mickey Edwards, one of the organization’s founding trustees and a former Republican congressman from Oklahoma. “Hopefully, Feulner, if he takes over, can help reestablish Heritage as what it used to be during the Reagan years.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:48 (seven years ago) link

being "conservative" means never thinking, only excusing, Heritage, sorry :(

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:51 (seven years ago) link

weird I got the impression that heritage is the shadow government since the trump campaign didn't feel like actually hiring anyone to do work once they won

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:56 (seven years ago) link

In around 2003 I posted my resume on Heritage's job site for the fuck of it and got a phone call from Rick Santorum's legislative director the next day

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link

missed opportunity

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:03 (seven years ago) link

MJ i don't mean to downplay "excusing" as a taxing cognitive endeavor for the 'shadow government'; i bet it's hard work just to wake up in the morning when you work at the Heritage Foundation unless your family is loaded -- just saying the "think" in 'think tank' is not what i consider thinking regarding whatever it is the Heritage Foundation does on behalf of our neo-feudal supply-side overlords

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link

excuse tank . . . never empty as long as there's taxes to cut!

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link

I wasnt arguing one way or another I just got the impression that heritage was as strong as ever and not in need of some putsch by management

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:16 (seven years ago) link

I think a big hunk of Trump supporters think of themselves as independent, so when they dangle out the possibility that they might turn on Trump, that is just their "independence" showing. Except they won't turn on him, because they are also racist, xenophobic, etc., and yeah, some of them voted for Obama, but given that he solved racism forever by being elected, unless the dems learn how to move on, well, way can they do? Guess it's the GOP or nothing.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link

bear in mind that a lot of these people that already think Trump has "delivered" on his campaign promises. Their primary concern is not facts or actual legislation or anything as complicated as that, it's where they stand in relation to their opponents, their narrative that Trump is sticking it to uppity liberals. As long as the country continues some semblance of functionality and Trump is antagonizing the left, they're secure with their voting decisions.

This is true for a lot, totally. My personal go-to window on the trumpiverse/dextrosphere is Ace of Spades. Within that site's commentariat once can see a range of attitudes, including:

1. Killary will Never Be President, so that's a win. Anything else is gravy. Even if Der Trumpissar disappoints us, it's better than what HRC would be doing.

2. It's only been 100 days, give him time. He's working against unprecedented (!) resistance both from the left and from the establishment right. (This attitude is conveniently silent on how much these selfsame people resisted Obama's every move, but let us set that aside for now.)

3. Our Almighty Orange Emperor is being ill-served by bad advisors - the NYC liberal cocktail-party types like the Kushners, and establishment swamp creatures like Preebius.

4. DC corrupts everyone, perhaps - gasp - even our Orange Deity. Yeah I never believed he was principled, but I believe we can still hold his feet to the fire and make him listen to the ones who brung him to the dance - Bannon, Conway, the fired-up base.

5. At least we got Gorsuch and some more immigration enforcement, so that's something.

6. I love that he's swinging his big balls and that he's pissing off the right people - he drives libs crazy, he fights the media and SJWs, he's turning the tide against political correctness.

There is a glimmer of interest in that at least some of these cranks are starting to say "When does the #winning begin?"

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=369537
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=369472

okey-dokey, gnocchi (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link

my native texan "conservative" brother-in-law said at christmas there's no such thing as racism in america -- (it's just an excuse for laziness!) since there's been a black president -- despite voting for comrade combover and his birth certificate detectives

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:27 (seven years ago) link

some serious gazing into the abyss yr doin there YMP

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:27 (seven years ago) link

@pareene
the alt-right guys are trying to teach the president history like a bad indie film protagonist explaining bands to the romantic interest

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link

confused as to whether that's supposed to imply that the alt-right guys know anything about history or not

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:31 (seven years ago) link

@nut_bunnies

*puts headphones on trump*

here. it’s a 7th grade history book on tape. it’ll change your life

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link

Even if Der Trumpissar disappoints us, it's better than what HRC would be doing.

@mawilner
"Yes, I did support it," @HillaryClinton says of Trump's #Syria strike. "But I'm not convinced that it really made much of a difference."

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link

people will abandon trump when somebody manages to come up with a better cult of personality

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:42 (seven years ago) link

so, not Curt Schilling

no Shakey, pareene is not confident in the alt-right history book

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link

been a long time, hard to remember that minnesota-born f. scott fitzgerald (princeton) had a lot of complaints about the establishment that grandson of harvard president missouri-born t. stearns eliot (harvard) didn't. what do stupid people talk about?

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link

SEAAAAAAAAN pic.twitter.com/LZ1iTPg4x7

— Lachlan Markay (@lachlan) May 2, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link

this is getting closer and closer to a 6-year-old's birthday party

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link

we're just going to give sean some space and let him be alone for a while, and pretty soon he's going to hear everyone outside having fun and he'll find his way back out

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link

my 6-year-old niece is actually really good at defusing these kinds of situations, maybe we can send her in to talk to sean, after 10-15 minutes

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:56 (seven years ago) link

what were they asking sean about that caused him to leave? NK? obamacare repeal? the civil war? the holocaust?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:58 (seven years ago) link

I've been saying this for a while. Interviewers should be setting him up for fall after fall.

Brandon Friedmant
@BFriedmanDC

I'm telling you guys, next person to interview Trump needs to ask him if slavery was all bad or if there were positive aspects. He'll bite.

to pimp a barfly (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:04 (seven years ago) link

has anyone just straight up asked him about how he reconciles his adoration of andrew jackson with jackson's ownership of a couple hundred slaves?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:08 (seven years ago) link

his daughter has taken over the oval office. he's king learing

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:11 (seven years ago) link

i know it seems silly, but it's possible that trump doesn't even know that jackson owned slaves, and about the Indian Removal Act. he didn't really understand how NATO worked. he didn't get the whole north korea thing. so it seems very possible that bannon just whispered "andrew jackson is a great role model" in his ear a few times and trump never bothered learning about the details.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:11 (seven years ago) link

i can't believe i'm serious about that but i am. totally wrong place to put this but who cares: i am depressed, not from this but from everything, inside and out, the last several months, so i am going to take a break from the internet for a while because it's no longer helping me

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:13 (seven years ago) link

I doubt Trump gave two seconds' thought to Jackson until Obama threatened to take Jackson off the $20 bill in favor of Harriet Tubman last year. xp

I don't really like any of these albums (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:15 (seven years ago) link

funny, like a clown?

It is hard to believe this is happening, but it’s real: The US Department of Justice is literally prosecuting a woman for laughing at now–Attorney General Jeff Sessions during his Senate confirmation hearing earlier this year.

According to Ryan Reilly at HuffPost, Code Pink activist Desiree Fairooz was arrested in January after she laughed at a claim from Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) that Sessions’s history of “treating all Americans equally under the law is clear and well-documented.”....

As Reilly reported, prosecutors argue that “the laugh amounted to willful ‘disorderly and disruptive conduct’ intended to ‘impede, disrupt, and disturb the orderly conduct’ of congressional proceedings.” In court, they have tried to emphasize that the laugh was extraordinarily disruptive, with a US Capitol Police officer claiming that Fairooz laughed “very loudly” and people in the hearings turned around when they heard it.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/2/15518574/desiree-fairooz-justice-department

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:18 (seven years ago) link

andrew jackson means dick all to donald trump as soren kierkegaard does. donald trump inherited shittons of property. fuck everyone else. he's got this. mitch mcconnell stole a supreme court seat. inherited wealth rules the united states of america. fuck jesus and empathy : (

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:22 (seven years ago) link

<3 u Karl

HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:35 (seven years ago) link

is it possible that all this time Trump has been conflating Andrew Jackson with Andrew Johnson?

bought 2 raris, went to chili's (crüt), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:42 (seven years ago) link

has anybody told Trump Jackson was a Democrat

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:42 (seven years ago) link

Andrew Johnson made the same mistake.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:43 (seven years ago) link

Xpost

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:43 (seven years ago) link

i love that the subtext of the civil war/andrew jackson stuff is that ol Abe Lincoln didn't do a good job dealing with the civil war

nomar, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:43 (seven years ago) link

lol

"but he was a Republican!"

HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:45 (seven years ago) link

Dishonest Abe coulda just negotiated his way out of it if he hadn't been such a low energy cuck

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:47 (seven years ago) link

you know what? equality is for suckers. i'm an american

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link

If everybody in Ford's Theatre was armed...

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link

it's possible that trump doesn't even know that jackson owned slaves, and about the Indian Removal Act

Maybe some of the Cherokees were good people. But a lot of them were bad hombres. Not many people know that.

okey-dokey, gnocchi (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:21 (seven years ago) link

so it seems very possible that bannon just whispered "andrew jackson is a great role model" in his ear a few times and trump never bothered learning about the details.

― Karl Malone, Tuesday, May 2, 2017 2:11 PM (fifty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I would say with maybe 80-90% certainty, unless he was directly referred to as such, that it took a little time after Bannon (or whoever) started gushing about Andrew Jackson for Trump to discover that Jackson was a former president. This is a profoundly stupid man who spoke about Frederick Douglass in the present tense, because he probably genuinely didn't know who he was.

How many gigabyte is in trilobites (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:22 (seven years ago) link

Thinkpiece

Our national armchair faces a television, where Trump has already appeared for years, and where he now appears almost constantly. But the armchair metaphor, like the furniture itself, is rather quaint: Trump’s personality, in all its outsized vulgarity, looms over and inside the lives of many Americans in a way that no other President really has before. There is no comfortable distance from which to psychoanalyze Trump, because the man is always onscreen, right in front of us. He is at the doctor’s office and the departure gate, at the sports bar and the auto repair shop. He is on huge screens in Times Square and on the little screens we carry in our pockets. You may yet have been spared seeing Trump on the TV in some fancy restroom, but if you’re among the one in two Americans who check their phones while on the toilet, odds are you’ve had an encounter with him there, too. Trump intrudes into spaces virtual and physical, public, and deeply private. Forget psychoanalysis-as-plague: it’s Trump that’s truly viral.

to pimp a barfly (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link

goatse.jpg

How many gigabyte is in trilobites (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:33 (seven years ago) link


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