Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

There have been rumors flying for months that Ivanka and Jared need to be around Trump to keep a protective eye on him. I wonder, given that their religion keeps them largely out of the picture over the weekend, if he's not actually being more or less sent to Mar-a-lago each weekend for safe keeping, in a safe, familiar place.

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These guys sound genuinely frightened at this point.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) appeared to take a veiled shot at President Trump on Tuesday after the president backed forcing a government shutdown later in the fall.

"Our voters, the people who elected Republican majorities in both Houses and elected this president, did not vote for us in order to shut down the government. They voted for us to govern, as hard as it is," Cornyn said from the Senate floor.

Cornyn, the No. 2 Senate Republican, didn't specifically address Trump's tweet from Tuesday morning, where the president wrote that "our country needs a good 'shutdown' in September."

why are you watching Morning Joe

― bought 2 raris, went to chili's (crüt), Tuesday, May 2, 2017

cuz I don't watch porn at 6 a.m. while drinking my smoothie.

a cornucopia of potential replies...

this seems like wishful thinking but idk

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xpost Yeah, it's telling how mum the GOP has been post budget, even as Dem stalwarts are boasting of their wins, as if they know they're fucked and that the best way forward at all is just to ignore Trump. If Trump threatened a shutdown in a few more months I can totally see the GOP once again telling him to GTFO.

is DNC finally pumping money into this shit or are they too busy jacking each other off

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/329454-perez-heads-to-georgia-to-boost-ossoff-ahead-of-runoff

The DNC has been all over Georgia, probably at the expense of some other races

the GOP hasn't even begun to cheat in georgia

our society has become one giant morality play. the trump family is exactly why we need a steep progressive taxation system. fuck you republicans and your voodoo economics doodoo

Da Doo Doo Doo, Da Duh Duh Duh.

suggestions that this whole charade is basically just a blame-shifting exercise (from the Freedom Caucus to the Tuesday Group) seem about right

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/02/republicans-obamacare-repeal-votes-237871

going through all this dumb shit to make your most vulnerable members even MORE vulnerable to losing in 2018? makes sense..

and fuck you too CNN and "real" republican voters

Eight of the top 10 corn-producing states backed Trump in the 2016 election, and Trump enjoyed a wealth of support from real [rural?] voters. Hemseath did not say that he regretted his vote for Trump, but acknowledged he could eventually. "That is a possibility," the Iowa farmer said when asked whether the NAFTA changes could cause him to regret his vote for Trump. "But when you vote, it is a much bigger picture than that. It is not a one-issue vote."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/02/politics/trump-nafta-farmers/

I appreciate that the DNC is finally giving a shit about at least some part of Georgia but it'd be cool if they started paying attention to rural black communities down here and not just affluent suburbs

going through all this dumb shit to make your most vulnerable members even MORE vulnerable to losing in 2018?

I guess the Freedom Caucus dream is that these Tuesday Group guys get primaried/lose their seats to more conservative members? A kind of party purge via election. Seems unlikely to me but then these are people that tend to operate in a fact-free environment.

they are operating in a voter-roll purge system, and maybe presume they can pack congress with more 'taxed-enough-already' jackasses

and fuck you too CNN and "real" republican voters

Eight of the top 10 corn-producing states backed Trump in the 2016 election, and Trump enjoyed a wealth of support from real [rural?] voters. Hemseath did not say that he regretted his vote for Trump, but acknowledged he could eventually. "That is a possibility," the Iowa farmer said when asked whether the NAFTA changes could cause him to regret his vote for Trump. "But when you vote, it is a much bigger picture than that. It is not a one-issue vote."

the problem is that if I were a Trump voter I'd get sick of being asked SO WHEN ARE YOU REGRETTING YOUR VOTE? NOW? NOW? so why tell the truth?

I was thinking that Trump's ineffectiveness may insulate him from blowback among his voters as well - ie, "if he's so terrible, how come things are basically still okay?"

logic that is likely to break down at crisis points. But let's all bear in mind how long it took Dubya's post-9/11 numbers to tumble. It didn't really happen until Katrina, and then the financial meltdown in 2008.

But "still okay" implies things were fine under Obama, and they can't say that.

i think the regret might come from them realizing they're not getting a free ticket out of comrade combover's lumbering path of destruction. i can't imagine why someone would have voted for him, but i guess it was partly to fuck over minorities and others your typical selfish "conservative" would dismiss as 'deplorable'. real voters aren't supposed to get fucked over, too!

But "still okay" implies things were fine under Obama, and they can't say that.

I mean in terms of some of the more hysterical fears of the left - deportation forces, nuclear annihilation, econcomic catastrophe, etc. When those things don't come to pass, Trump voters can point to this as proof that Trump's critics are not realistic, he's really an "okay" guy, you don't need all that fancypants learning and book-reading and dignity and shit

basically if the country still exists in 4 years, Trump voters will feel vindicated

(the core of them anyway

Dunno about that. (Them feeling vindicated, that is.)

Former Energy and Commerce Chairman Fred Upton — who once authored numerous repeal bills — said he was against the proposal Tuesday, a day after longtime Donald Trump supporter Rep. Billy Long (R-Mo.) came out in opposition. Long even rebuffed the president’s personal plea to back the bill in a phone call Monday.

wow, even fred fucking upton is against repeal now.

maybe this will all blow up in their faces so badly that they'll be tempted for 0.00005th of a second to pass any sort of legislation that improves the existing law

hahahahahahahahahaha

no, they won't do that.

well, bear in mind that a lot of these people that already think Trump has "delivered" on his campaign promises. Their primary concern is not facts or actual legislation or anything as complicated as that, it's where they stand in relation to their opponents, their narrative that Trump is sticking it to uppity liberals. As long as the country continues some semblance of functionality and Trump is antagonizing the left, they're secure with their voting decisions.

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The plodding "I'm a Republican so I'll vote Republican" and the alt-right goons may be OK with him in 2020, but the key group that got him elected, the "shake things up" / "bring back good jobs" group won't.

Today you have talkradio/Foxsphere and beyond basically yelling "WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU" at Trump. A few more repeats of that...

Because what we're seeing Trump as supposed transactional genius basically being reduced to a rubberstamp by Congress.

i bleeve the prez's helicopter just landed outside my window

about to eat, didn't look

DON'T LOOK AT IT KEEP YOUR EYES SHUT

DeMint indicated he'd retire, then announced at a mtg he'd changed mind. Needham threw chair across rm when he left https://t.co/V8BNMP5Xcz

— Eliana Johnson (@elianayjohnson) May 2, 2017

Whoa, we're getting embedded tweets now?

I'm not minding.

i personally am angry

Today you have talkradio/Foxsphere and beyond basically yelling "WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU" at Trump. A few more repeats of that...

this will all be immediately forgotten as soon as Trump tweets something incendiary/stupid, waves his dick at our "enemies", signs another executive order etc.

lol

“When DeMint went in, Heritage became very political. It changed it from a highly respected think tank to just a partisan tool and more ideological — more of a tea party organization than a think tank,” said Mickey Edwards, one of the organization’s founding trustees and a former Republican congressman from Oklahoma. “Hopefully, Feulner, if he takes over, can help reestablish Heritage as what it used to be during the Reagan years.

being "conservative" means never thinking, only excusing, Heritage, sorry :(

weird I got the impression that heritage is the shadow government since the trump campaign didn't feel like actually hiring anyone to do work once they won

In around 2003 I posted my resume on Heritage's job site for the fuck of it and got a phone call from Rick Santorum's legislative director the next day

missed opportunity

MJ i don't mean to downplay "excusing" as a taxing cognitive endeavor for the 'shadow government'; i bet it's hard work just to wake up in the morning when you work at the Heritage Foundation unless your family is loaded -- just saying the "think" in 'think tank' is not what i consider thinking regarding whatever it is the Heritage Foundation does on behalf of our neo-feudal supply-side overlords

excuse tank . . . never empty as long as there's taxes to cut!

I wasnt arguing one way or another I just got the impression that heritage was as strong as ever and not in need of some putsch by management

I think a big hunk of Trump supporters think of themselves as independent, so when they dangle out the possibility that they might turn on Trump, that is just their "independence" showing. Except they won't turn on him, because they are also racist, xenophobic, etc., and yeah, some of them voted for Obama, but given that he solved racism forever by being elected, unless the dems learn how to move on, well, way can they do? Guess it's the GOP or nothing.

bear in mind that a lot of these people that already think Trump has "delivered" on his campaign promises. Their primary concern is not facts or actual legislation or anything as complicated as that, it's where they stand in relation to their opponents, their narrative that Trump is sticking it to uppity liberals. As long as the country continues some semblance of functionality and Trump is antagonizing the left, they're secure with their voting decisions.

This is true for a lot, totally. My personal go-to window on the trumpiverse/dextrosphere is Ace of Spades. Within that site's commentariat once can see a range of attitudes, including:

1. Killary will Never Be President, so that's a win. Anything else is gravy. Even if Der Trumpissar disappoints us, it's better than what HRC would be doing.

2. It's only been 100 days, give him time. He's working against unprecedented (!) resistance both from the left and from the establishment right. (This attitude is conveniently silent on how much these selfsame people resisted Obama's every move, but let us set that aside for now.)

3. Our Almighty Orange Emperor is being ill-served by bad advisors - the NYC liberal cocktail-party types like the Kushners, and establishment swamp creatures like Preebius.

4. DC corrupts everyone, perhaps - gasp - even our Orange Deity. Yeah I never believed he was principled, but I believe we can still hold his feet to the fire and make him listen to the ones who brung him to the dance - Bannon, Conway, the fired-up base.

5. At least we got Gorsuch and some more immigration enforcement, so that's something.

6. I love that he's swinging his big balls and that he's pissing off the right people - he drives libs crazy, he fights the media and SJWs, he's turning the tide against political correctness.

There is a glimmer of interest in that at least some of these cranks are starting to say "When does the #winning begin?"

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