OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEXMJfvuQcQ

j., Tuesday, 25 April 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

that's the first time i've ever heard those trivia, they are interesting and I'm glad I know em but I wouldn't begrudge someone for not knowing them and not writing about them.

flopson, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link

I dont think "trivia" is the right word though? I think these things are all absolutely integral in understanding the main conceit of the story!

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link

Like Diplo eventually collaborating with an actual member of the Clash on a Converse ad is "trivia." M.I.A. detourning the melody and lyrics of 90s butt-shaking song to be about globalism is 100% integral to what makes is a good chorus

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link

trivia or not, i've been able to enjoy all those choruses without knowing those facts. also, i googled for like 2 mins and couldn't find ANY piece of writing (aside from your ilx post and whosampled.com) that mentions them

flopson, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link

I hate to encourage the circular entropic flow of information between people writing chart articles and fucking genius.com, but genius does have the rumpshaker ref re:MIA

the "get low" annotations are worthless

a landlocked exclave (mh), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link

less than five google searches and I get from "to the windows, to the walls" to this article, which at least cites a 1994 track

asking people writing articles on pop culture to do more than two google searches is nearly impossible afaict

a landlocked exclave (mh), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link

I mean it's not really a lack of googling, more just the whole regurgitated received wisdom with a chyme gloss of celebrity gossip and fun blog voice thing, but

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

I guess writing doesn't necessarily imply anyone did research

a landlocked exclave (mh), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link

I mean, honestly, on one level there's the skill of digging into some material, which used to be paging through Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature and hoping nothing really recent was relevant, and hopefully being able to have a couple sources that weren't just churn off the same article. (middle school library nerd here)

Now the actual digging is much easier with google, but the critical skills to find original sources to determine if you've found a traceable fact or just the same half-dozen people regurgitating one questionable source gets tricky.

I guess if you're churning out stuff in the ol' billboard post mill it might not matter

a landlocked exclave (mh), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link

that owns

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 04:39 (six years ago) link

San Francisco's on the Trump Train, baby

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 04:50 (six years ago) link

That openness reverberates through “Want You Back”’s verses, which have a Don Henley glimmer and a Christine McVie yearning

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link

can't see what's particularly bad about that

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:52 (six years ago) link

they forgot to work in a Twin Peaks reference too

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link

i hate to give mr. thenardlebop any attention at all, but this is so egregious how is he this uninformed

And here we have one of the ugliest attempts at capitalizing on the Caribbean craze: pic.twitter.com/U4ZtKtUkFy

— Thee Anthony Fantano (@theneedledrop) May 3, 2017


@theneedledrop Wow man .. ugly attempt at Caribbean ? Man that's Afro beat that's my naija culture . I was born into this sound . This is OUR sound

— Wale (@Wale) May 3, 2017

austinb, Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:05 (six years ago) link

they forgot to work in a Twin Peaks reference too

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:56 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haim make pop-rock full of deliberate callbacks to '70s los angeles pop-rock i.e. what are you talking about

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link

make it a Mulholland Drive reference then

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:16 (six years ago) link

my point was, yes they make that style of music so obviously that one could have written that sentence without hearing a second of music.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:17 (six years ago) link

Jesus fuck fantano scolding wale unreal lack of awareness

*billy ocean voice* caribbean craze

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:19 (six years ago) link

looks like "know how to diss diplo, i'll run with it" without recognizing wale whatsoever

a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:24 (six years ago) link

What's a Don Henley glimmer

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:26 (six years ago) link

The gleam of the LAPD badge as they search his partment?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:27 (six years ago) link

the reflection the lights off his coke mirror.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:38 (six years ago) link

The fact that Wale responded to Fantano at all is an amazing self-ether

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 4 May 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link

i get that ATDI is important but this is the most hagiographic, labored-over, critically uninteresting thing i've ever seen

http://thequietus.com/articles/22339-at-the-drive-in-inter-alia-album-review

austinb, Friday, 5 May 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link

I got halfway through that before thinking "is this is a review of a new record or a fucking history lesson?" ... a couple of paragraphs later and I was like "is this a review of a new record or is this just the writer telling us how much he likes the previous one?"

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 5 May 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link

The review didn't really click for me until paragraph seven:

Peers in my Devon sixth form college didn’t know what to make of them when I brought Relationship of Command into the common room

which is where I stopped reading. Especially once I noticed there were like 17 paragraphs to go. Pull your pants back up, buddy, it's just an album.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 5 May 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

I like At the Drive In quite a bit but I don't really know how "important" they are, they were solidly part of an emo-influence/mathy post-fugazi scene of underground rock

holy crap it's almost 6,000 words. that's like Wright Thompson or Spencer Hall longform strokejob length.

evol j, Friday, 5 May 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

Is there a Caribbean craze?

Evan, Friday, 5 May 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link

Sitting on another set of lawn chairs was Craig, a civil engineer who’d spent the morning perfecting a spill-proof beer bong. The only thing more sculpted than its arrangement of PVC pipes and valves was his body.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 May 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link

Amazingly, this was not written by Bob Lefsetz.

Closing paragraph:

The hippie movement is actually a great case study in the intersection of pop music and activism. Listen to Joni Mitchell’s “Woodstock.” (Yes, she famously missed performing at the festival she wrote the definitive song about.) “We are stardust, we are golden, and we’ve got to get ourselves back to the garden.” Listen to Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young calling out police in the wake of the Kent State shooting in “Ohio.” Listen to Bob Dylan skewering government warmongering on “Masters of War.” 2017’s ambitious pop crop could wield this same power if they wanted. But do they?

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link

hey Katy Perry pricked her finger on a rose thorn in that one video. that's about as deep as you're gonna get these days

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:48 (six years ago) link

Before I heard you, I didn’t think it was possible for someone to front three separate bands over their career, and on top of that, release several albums as a solo artist. How could someone be that universal?

Your voice sends chills to the spine. Your words stir the wheels of thought. Your melodies invent emotions most of us never even knew existed.

Your songs have gotten me, as well as many other people, through some of the darkest, as well as some of the best times in our lives. You touched more people than you can imagine. And now you’ve hurt us.

http://www.alternativenation.net/say-hello-2-heaven-open-letter-chris-cornell/

Frozen CD, Saturday, 20 May 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link

nah

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 May 2017 02:22 (six years ago) link

i wrote worse than that in my journal in college. she's 21 ffs

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 May 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link

Yeah, post denied

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 20 May 2017 12:55 (six years ago) link

donald glover's pop culture streak is unprecedented....if you woke of from a coma in 2016 and have total amnesia

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:41 (six years ago) link

if you woke from a coma in 2016 and have total amnesia

Primary qualifications for being a pop culture journalist in 2017

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link

oh *that's* what people were talking about

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 12:18 (six years ago) link

I Wrote the 500th Sgt Peppers Challops Article...and that's okay!

President Keyes, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 12:36 (six years ago) link

It’s no surprise, then, that the Beatles’ shift toward a more respectable and artistic branding meant shedding their sex appeal. The “Sgt. Pepper” album cover features the Fab Four dressed in goofy-looking uniforms that couldn’t be better suited to repel the female gaze. Beyond the title track and “Lucy in the Sky with the Diamonds,” there’s very little on the record that makes a lady want to shake her hips on the dance floor.

“Sgt. Pepper” is a good pop record, don’t get me wrong. But it’s a record I resent, because it helped cement this notion that music for girls is silly and music for men is artistically significant. It’s a notion that is doubly appalling because history shows, time and time again, that girl-tastes are the ones that are ahead of the curve.

waht

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 12:40 (six years ago) link

have we done a t/s: sgt pepper vs sgt pepper's? feel like we should put the thorny matter of how to shorten references to this album to bed once and for all

personally i believe anyone who prefers to say sgt pepper's should be dragged into the street and summarily executed

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 12:41 (six years ago) link


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