― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:51 (twenty years ago) link
It's called 'opinion,' see... (While I see what you're trying to get at, might I also note that I could argue that 'if you knew the cultural and musical history behind British created rock and roll then you would see that blah blah blah,' but I would also sound pretty goddamn ridiculous.)
haha, Tweezerland
I just love that mistake! I refuse to correct it.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:52 (twenty years ago) link
Main Entry: 1sub·jec·tive Pronunciation: (")s&b-'jek-tivFunction: adjectiveDate: 15th century1 : of, relating to, or constituting a subject : as a obsolete : of, relating to, or characteristic of one that is a subject especially in lack of freedom of action or in submissiveness b : being or relating to a grammatical subject; especially : NOMINATIVE2 : of or relating to the essential being of that which has substance, qualities, attributes, or relations3 a : characteristic of or belonging to reality as perceived rather than as independent of mind : PHENOMENAL -- compare OBJECTIVE 1b b : relating to or being experience or knowledge as conditioned by personal mental characteristics or states4 a (1) : peculiar to a particular individual : PERSONAL (2) : modified or affected by personal views, experience, or background b : arising from conditions within the brain or sense organs and not directly caused by external stimuli c : arising out of or identified by means of one's perception of one's own states and processes -- compare OBJECTIVE 1c5 : lacking in reality or substance : ILLUSORY- sub·jec·tive·ly adverb- sub·jec·tive·ness noun- sub·jec·tiv·i·ty /-"jek-'ti-v&-tE/ noun ― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:53 (twenty years ago) link
See, but I don't think it is particularly ridiculous. I think if someone wanted to really understand music, they would make some sort of attempt at learning the backgrounds of other groups and cultures. What made you decide to listen to the music that you have listed here? A certain number of socioeconomic, cultural and geographic and era-based influences. Different factors went into it - largely who you've discussed music with and the people you learned about music from. I'd advocate learning about other musical forms from the ground up - evaluating them based on the aesthetic by which they are judged by those who are a part of the culture, and THEN bringing your own bias into it, rather than deciding based on a preconcieved set of notions about "good" music. I certainly don't consider myself to be a picture of this judgement myself - I basically listen to Jazz and hip hop, and am learning about other music now (I just heard Can for the first time the other day) - but on the other hand, I'm not the one creating the big-ass list.
Of course, I suppose these kinds of lists are going to be suggestive of what you've been exploring musically...but if you HAVE heard these albums, my question is - why do you think it is that you feel Oasis is the better band?
Oh, and Nicolars - look up, something just flew over your head.
― ddrake, Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:01 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:04 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:05 (twenty years ago) link
I think it's closer than that.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:07 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Felcher (Felcher), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:10 (twenty years ago) link
If you're suggesting I am this person, you are wrong-o.I post as djdee2005 on sound opinions.I'm not trying to get in a fight hear.Just bouncing ideas around.People need to relax.
"What caused you to think that, Jess? And do you think there's an inherent value to a particular music simply because it was made by black people?"
I hope this isn't directed at me in some way...because this is far from what I'm suggesting.
― ddrake, Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:10 (twenty years ago) link
What a clever unintentional pun.
― ddrake, Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Felcher (Felcher), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:12 (twenty years ago) link
Sure do!
Good god. I just read that, didn't I.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:12 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:13 (twenty years ago) link
"Good god. I just read that, didn't I."
Tongue firmly planted in cheek sir.
― ddrake, Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Felcher (Felcher), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:13 (twenty years ago) link
As for Beatles there is absolutely NOTHING about Boyzone to make themdeserve a comparision to The Fab Four.
Never EVER has ONE single Beatles member EVER written something that iseven remotely close to a MOR ballad. Paul McCartney is into clever chordchanges, and has always been able to stay away from the cliches always usedby the likes of Boyzone.
― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:14 (twenty years ago) link
No. Three. But we're not your enemies. We LIKE you.
I'll probably get to that some time tonight, Felcher, fret not.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:15 (twenty years ago) link
― ddrake, Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:18 (twenty years ago) link
― ddrake, Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:19 (twenty years ago) link
What you saw was a catalog of the CDs I bought in (and brought to) college, which I had in an Excel spreadsheet; my roommate from last year converted it to a graphical web DB testing out his MySQL and PHP skills. So yeah, it was mostly white indie and electronic bands from the laet-80s/90s. Off the top of my head though...Tricky, Jeru, Busta, N.W.A., Public Enemy, and Eddie Floyd were in there. James Brown and Bob Marley I had on tapes, for my walkman-- I used to bring it to the studio to drum along to. Feel better now?
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:20 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:23 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:24 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link
and bloody.
― ddrake, Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Conor Smedley (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link
I love about half of the albums on that list, like a lot more, and hate the Smashing Pumpkins.
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Felcher (Felcher), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:29 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:33 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:38 (twenty years ago) link
― ddrake, Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:39 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Lord Balto the Damned (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:40 (twenty years ago) link